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The River Wye at Hereford, a noted barbel stretch The River Wye at Hereford, a noted barbel stretch

Graham Marsden with a basic guide to locating and catching barbel from bigger rivers

The title begs the question, ‘what is a big river?’ To me, a big river is one where you can’t see the bottom on the far bank, no matter how clear the water is. Really though, a big river can mean different things to different anglers, so for the sake of this article let’s say that the big rivers I’m writing about are the bigger spate rivers that turn chocolate brown at times of flood. The ones I've fished regularly over the years are the Severn, Trent, Wye and Ribble.

Location
Fish-spotting is not easy on big spate rivers. Even in clear water conditions the water is never anywhere near as clear as it is on the chalk streams. So what we have to do on spate rivers is read the water’s surface.

Barbel will visit all types of swims, from fast rapids to slow, almost still pools. In fact, they will seek food anywhere they think they can find it when it suits them to do so. Never rule out anywhere is the answer then, but it is wise to start with the most likely swims in a given set of conditions, working your way down to the least likely. A rule of thumb is to choose fast, oxygenated water in early season when the conditions are warm and there has been little rain for several weeks. Fast water will most often be shallow, which means it will also be weedy, and that too is a good place to fish for barbel. In near-bank swims you can try to spot the fish, which is a lot easier if you have a decent pair of polarised glasses, and I mean a decent pair. There is a lot of rubbish around; cheap, coated lenses instead of the proper job where the polarising is built into the lens itself. I have a pair made to my prescription. They’re not cheap, but if you want the best then you have to pay for it.
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                 Prescription Polaroid Glasses

In large rivers, though, as I said earlier, it is usually a case of reading the surface water, and finding the weed in shallow water, and laying traps with bait. Let me describe what my ideal barbel swim looks like, bearing in mind that it is not necessarily the best swim to catch big barbel, but probably the best swim to make a catch of barbel, which may or may not have one or two big barbel amongst them.

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                   One in the net on the Wye

I look for a steady flow of not too shallow water, say 4ft to 8ft deep, that breaks up fairly quickly as it hits a rapid rise in the river bed. If there are weedbeds with channels 3ft or more wide between them then so much the better. And if this feature happens to be on a bend as well, forming a pool of fairly slack water, then that is the cream on the cake! The exact spot to fish, or it usually is but, don’t forget, there  is always room to experiment, is just before the water breaks up, along the crease that will be formed between the flow and the pool. If there is no pool then fish in the clear channels between the weed, again just before the water breaks up.
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                                              Barbel from the Lower Severn and the Ribble

Any swim with a steady flow, weedy or otherwise, providing you can get a bait on the bottom, will produce barbel. Where the surface water is part smooth and steady, but with faster water forming a crease, it is usually right on the crease where the hot-spot lies.

Big barbel generally like slacker water. Perhaps this is because they grow lazier as they grow bigger. Or maybe they have been lazy all their lives and are big because they chose to live most of their lives in slacker water and have never had to expend the same amount of energy as the smaller ones. Everywhere I’ve caught big barbel, and by big I mean big according to the average size of barbel found in a particular river, which could be 7lb in one river and 10lb and more on another, they have consistently come from slower, steadier water, and usually water with a little more depth than average in that particular stretch. The downside is that they are usually the most difficult barbel to catch, not simply because of their size, but because there are fewer of them. You have to wait longer for bites, but when you do get a bite chances are it will be from one of the biggest fish in that stretch.
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                 Barbel from the upper Trent

All barbel love snags in any shape or form, but particularly fallen trees and branches. Don’t fish such areas unless you are prepared to use tackle that can pull them out. And that applies no matter if you are targeting big barbel or small barbel – they can all fight hard enough to make short work of flimsy tackle. Small barbel make up in speed and aggression for what they lack in weight.

Tackle

Much of the time a purpose-built barbel rod will do a great job, one that is not too heavy, with a medium-fast to through action will give you maximum pleasure when playing barbel, for it will bend through most of its length yet retain the power required to subdue a good fish. For heavy swimfeeder work, however, especially on the wider reaches of really big rivers like the middle and lower Severn, a heavier rod is required, perhaps one of the lighter carp rods, that will chuck a heavy, loaded feeder. One of the rods I use currently is the FishingMagic one that was given to me by the FM members when I retired from the full time editing of this website. It’s a beautiful rod, based on a Harrison’s Torrix blank and built to my personal specifications by Mark Tunley. It’s 12ft long and 1.75lb test curve.

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                                                                   Bending into a Wye barbel

In these days of low diameter, braided and pre-stretched mono lines, I can’t see the point in fishing anything less than 10lb line on the reel when barbel fishing, even for the smaller barbel of some rivers. A 10lb reel line to a 10lb hooklength (the knot will be the weak link)  is as light as you need to go for most barbel in open water, with a step-up of 2lb on both reel line and hooklength for snaggy swims. The main line can be a braid if preferred, with either a braid or mono hooklength. My own preference these days is for a tough mono to a fluorocarbon hooklength.
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                                   My standard barbel rig (for feeder or bomb)

Rather than try to describe the barbel rig I most often use take a look at the picture above which should be self explanatory. Both the swimfeeder or bomb and the hooklength can be changed in seconds. The rig can be set to be free-running or the large ring on the swivel pushed firmly onto the tapered sleeve to make it a bolt rig. In either case the rig is completely non-tethering. I cover the two connections with silicon tube when fishing but for clarity have left them off to take this picture.

Baits
In the early season, especially when the water is running clear, there is little to beat the hemp and caster combination, fished with a suitable block-end feeder with the holes either opened up or taped over to adjust the dispensation rate according to flow and barbel appetite. Of course, baits like sweetcorn and luncheon meat will catch too, but there is little, if anything, to beat hemp and caster for working up a shoal of barbel into a feeding frenzy. Suitable only for smaller barbel of course as we are not easily able to use casters on a hook that is substantial enough to safely handle double-figure fish. There are workarounds too, such as the Korda Maggot klip and gluing casters and maggots to hairs.
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    Maggots mounted  on thge Korda Maggot Klip

In darkness, or when the river is carrying colour, large, smelly baits come into their own. Flavoured luncheon meat and so-called designer pastes, Peperami sausage, meatballs and other meaty products all have their day. Large lobworms and bunches of small redworms are always worth a try in coloured water too. Plain luncheon meat is still a good bait but I think it has an edge in these days of heavy pressure on some barbel swims with the addition of some flavour. Alternatively, Campbell’s Meatballs offer a good alternative, either straight from the can or flavoured. I’ve had great success flavouring them with various powders, such as tikka and garam masala, from the local supermarket.
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  Meatball mounted in a soft hair-rigged bait band

Top of the tree though has got to be pellets and boilies, halibut pellets and boilies based on some kind of seafood or meat flavour like crab are favourite, but I’ve had plenty of barbel on fruit and sweet flavoured boilies so don’t think you have to use the almost mandatory fishy and meaty ones. Pellet or boilie, which is best? Sometimes I think it’s all in the mind, our minds, not the barbel’s. Fish either boilies or pellets well and both will catch, so choose whichever you have the most confidence in.
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                    Halibut pellet mounted in a tight hair-rigged bait band

Method
When fishing the feeder, casting regularly to keep a trickle of feed going through the swim at all times is essential, otherwise there is no point in using a feeder. A bomb and a PVA bag become a better option if you’re only casting infrequently.

A final few thoughts
One of the best aspects of big rivers is that they usually hold more fish than small rivers, but the fish will be harder to find. One of the worst things about a big river is that they can be daunting to the inexperienced. But think on this: when you’ve done your spadework and fished a few times, and narrowed down a big river to a hot swim, that foreboding, possibly off-putting big river disappears, and there’s just you and a relatively small swim to focus on.

Obviously, this article only scratches the surface of fishing big rivers for barbel, but at least it gives you the basics to plan a campaign. Within these pages of FishingMagic you'll find lots of articles about fishing for barbel on both big and small rivers, many of them dealing with the finer detail that is missing from this one. Barbel are very exciting fish to target, offering enough problems to make them interesting, a size to put a good bend in your rod, and with a fight to place that bend in the 'frightening' category.

I recently enjoyed a few hours on the river Lugg with Paul Williams and Dave Cooper. The Lugg is not a big river, but wherever you catch them from, big or small rivers, barbel have what it takes to offer anglers the best kind of sport.

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             Paul 'Brummie' Williams and Dave 'Coops' Cooper with a brace of nice barbel from the Lugg

The best part of the season for barbel fishing, late summer and autumn, is just coming up – good luck!







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Comments (23 posted):

Stealph Viper on 16/08/2009 08:10:52
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Thank you Graham, A very good and informative read, i really enjoyed it, it has got me thinking that some time in the near future that i would definately like to have a go at fishing for Barbel from a River. Tight Lines :D
tigger on 16/08/2009 11:24:13
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I enjoyed reading that Graham.....well done!
nicky on 16/08/2009 11:39:41
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nice article graham i recently fished for barbel for the 1st time, at the biblins on the wye caught a few, planning on going back soon so some good info there for someone like me, by the way i used a 2.5lb carp rod 12lb sensor and 10lb hooklink and when i hooked a 7.5lber i was glad i chose strong tackle ---------- Post added at 11:39 ---------- Previous post was at 11:38 ---------- hey why does it say im a new member?
Jeff Woodhouse on 16/08/2009 14:48:08
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Crikey Graham, that picture must be very old. You still have your own teeth there. :p Nicely put together.
preston96 on 16/08/2009 14:55:02
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Crikey Graham, that picture must be very old. You still have your own teeth there. :p Nicely put together. Looks like a Sabre barbed Barbel too!!.........i love that shot of the Wye and Hereford cathedral.
Dicky (Angling Trust PAC) on 16/08/2009 16:08:11
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Nice introductory article Graham. :) I well remember my first time on the Severn. After ten years exclusively fishing the Teme, daunting was certainly the word for it!
klik2change on 16/08/2009 18:46:12
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Many thanks for a good article Graham - thought provoking and informative. You treat the basic problem well, given the prominence it has in just about every fishing article you read - first find your fish! Are you thinking of writing a series?
Dicky (Angling Trust PAC) on 16/08/2009 19:51:51
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Paul (Brummie) How you doing mate? No luck finding us a local tench shangri-la then? Bizarrely as I couldn't find any decent tinca waters early season, I ended up down the Lugg (for the first time) on opening day. What a lovely river! A proper stalking water... nearly as nice as the Teme ;). I had 5 barbel and 3 chub on my first visit to a Wye & Usk stretch near Hereford. Not quite as exciting as watching your float lifting above a stream of bubbles, but it did for me. Hope you're well, cu on the Severn :)
Morespiders on 16/08/2009 20:48:37
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Crikey Graham, that picture must be very old. You still have your own teeth there. :p Nicely put together. No there not, there Bibbys, they hang to the right
preston96 on 16/08/2009 20:52:27
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Paul (Brummie) How you doing mate? No luck finding us a local tench shangri-la then? Bizarrely as I couldn't find any decent tinca waters early season, I ended up down the Lugg (for the first time) on opening day. What a lovely river! A proper stalking water... nearly as nice as the Teme ;). I had 5 barbel and 3 chub on my first visit to a Wye & Usk stretch near Hereford. Not quite as exciting as watching your float lifting above a stream of bubbles, but it did for me. Hope you're well, cu on the Severn :) I could give you one classic tench water mate, but the cost would be to much for just a few early season sorties.....yep cu soon:p
Dicky (Angling Trust PAC) on 16/08/2009 21:38:15
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Never mind mate, I do find it quite tragic that in this carp-mad age it's so difficult to find a tench water, but as the Billy Ocean song goes, when the going get's tough... My mate's digging a 7 acre lake this year and we'll hopefully have early season crucian, rudd and tench in a decade or so. :w I'll let you know... Good things come to those who wait! In the meantime I have mini-rivers like the Lugg to keep me occupied early season.
TJD Notts on 17/08/2009 16:08:43
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Never seen one of the above used the way round that is shown in the article, always thought people used a figure of 8 loop knot on the hooklength and put that over the opened eye of the swivel. Anyone else do it that way? Trevor
Fred Bonney on 17/08/2009 17:00:16
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Nice straight forward article. Keep it simple is the way. Trevor, my standard end setup is the same as Grahams, I never use a loop.
Graham Whatmore on 18/08/2009 08:08:11
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A good fishing article makes you want to go out and do it yourself and that is precisely what Graham's articles do, another winner Graham. Those anglers that have never gone out on a river because they think they aren't equipped to tackle one should gain some confidence from this article. Fishing isn't rocket science it is practice, common sense and a little help from an article such as this that doesn't over complicate what is basically a stepped up version of feeder fishing in a pool.
Murton Bere on 19/08/2009 10:14:33
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Graham, Nice article. Question for you - what is that clip/hook device your swivel is connected to just below the tail rubber? Useful to be able to switch hooklengths quickly and I can see I could make use of that. Do you cover that with silicon tubing too?
Jeff Woodhouse on 20/08/2009 10:03:08
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Graham, Nice article. Question for you - what is that clip/hook device your swivel is connected to just below the tail rubber? Useful to be able to switch hooklengths quickly and I can see I could make use of that. Do you cover that with silicon tubing too? I don't know the one that Graham uses, but these are the ones I use for carp fishing and anything else when I need a fast change. Gemini Snood Clips - http://www.gemini-tackle.co.uk/clips.php Just cover them with a short length of silicone tubing. Easy removal of swivels unlike some manufacturers clips and cheap as chips and secure!
Graham Marsden on 20/08/2009 10:06:55
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Murton Bere: "Nice article. Question for you - what is that clip/hook device your swivel is connected to just below the tail rubber? Useful to be able to switch hooklengths quickly and I can see I could make use of that. Do you cover that with silicon tubing too?" These are the ones I use: Details here. And yes, I do cover it with a silicon tube.
r1paul on 20/08/2009 10:23:50
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I agree with you Woody , they are a great bit of kit , I use them when piking ,when paternoster they are a real help , 0ne to the trace , one on the rotten link , instead of having to fluff around with a fish in the net and take your rod to your unhooking mat , which can be a pain in the bum , you can just unclip the trace from your rig and move freely to do what is needed with the pike .:D :w
Graham Marsden on 20/08/2009 10:28:05
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Before they were commercially available I used to make my own from swivels and the Gemini snood clips.
Murton Bere on 20/08/2009 14:54:41
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Guys - thanks for that info. Woody on that site that your link takes us to there are some with swivels adjoined too. Not having used these before and bearing in mind the open nature of one end, what are the loading capabilities of these? If I was to fish with 10lb mainline in a snaggy swim and have to really go for it is there any danger that they might want to open out?
Fred Bonney on 20/08/2009 15:34:35
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I use the Gemini they haven't ever straightened out.
Jeff Woodhouse on 20/08/2009 16:54:18
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Woody on that site that your link takes us to there are some with swivels adjoined too. Not having used these before and bearing in mind the open nature of one end, what are the loading capabilities of these? If I was to fish with 10lb mainline in a snaggy swim and have to really go for it is there any danger that they might want to open out? I haven't used the Links type nor the links to swivels, I can only imagine that the swivels will go before the links. The Gemini links were recommended to me by Big Rik, a big carp angler on here who'd caught fish upt to the forties if not over and he said he always used them. I was using them just yesterday with 15lbs line and I wouldn't have any fear of them opening up. They were designed fro sea fishing primarily and with the beasts you get out there they're over-designed if anything. It's the SNOOD type I use, that is what was recommended and they're shorter and slimmer.
Murton Bere on 21/08/2009 09:07:54
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Cheers for that everyone. Didn't realistically think they'd open but it's not something you see referred to that often (breaking points of end tackle). Will start using these imminently. Graham covers his with silicon tubing. Is that what most of you do using these or are the gemini ones for instance slim enough to not worry too much about snagging, or anything else for that matter?


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