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Loading Lines on Reels, Part 2 - Fixed Spool Reels

image A typical fixed-spool reel

Following on from Part 1 - Centrepins, Jeff continues his explanations of how to load line on fixed spool reels whilst, hopefully, avoiding twist.

These reels complicate the issue of loading line whilst avoiding twist simply because their method of casting and winding actively encourages twist. Little wonder some people call them ‘spinning reels’.

Try a little experiment sometime, if you get the opportunity. You want some narrow ribbon about 5 mm or so wide, the sort that you get around gifts. Tie the backing line of an half empty spool to one end of it and manually wrap the ribbon neatly and flatly around the spool.

Now, open the bale arm and take the leading end of the ribbon away from the spool, as if you were casting, taking ribbon off the spool. See how twisted it is? When you wind back on using the bale arm, much of the twist stays in the ribbon and next time you cast, the twist develops even worse.

Some lines can handle a certain amount of twisting very well, whilst other can’t, that’s why you get such varied opinions on the different makes of monofilament line. The reel manufacturers have tried hard over the years to eliminate twist, the big roller, then the grove in the roller that keeps the line to one side, ‘Twistbuster’ and ‘Aerowrap’, they all have their names.

However, a good idea is not to put too much twist in the line when you are loading it from a spool to the reel.

TYPES OF LINES

As with the centrepins, almost all types of monofilament and copolymer lines can be used on a fixed spool reel, but in addition, you can also use good quality braided lines. Just make sure that the braid you use is very cylindrical in it’s form and will not flatten under pressure when being wound around the bale roller because that can also cause line twist. Recommendations and/or experience will dictate which brands are most suitable.

The obvious use of braid is for spinning and lure fishing, but more recently they have been used for long distance feeder fishing and in carp fishing for feature finding. The benefits of braid is that is has very little stretch, as low as 1%, much lower than any monofilament. This means that you are always in direct contact with the fish and any end tackle, but it advisable to use rods that are considered to be soft so as not to damage the fish.
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Good makes that are well recommended are PowerPro, Fireline, Sufix’s - Herculine, Matrix, and Performance, and one I have found very good recently – Cortland Master Braid. Braided lines also fall into two distinct types, governed by the fibre manufacturer.  Dyneema fibres are manufactured in the far east and can be braided anywhere in the world, whereas Spectron can only be made and braided in the USA.

There’s not much to split them apart in terms of quality, you can get good lines in both types of line as the brands mentioned above prove. The Spectron fibres are often woven into sheet materials for the sails of yachts or layered together to make bullet-proof vests. About 24 layers are used and in tests, a 9mm sub-machine gun fired at a vest penetrated only 16 layers. It’s strong stuff.

Well, it’s strong when used like that, but it also suffers from abrasion on underwater rocks, so bear that in mind. It’s also strong in it’s breaking strain for it’s given diameter, for example, a 20+lbs braid will have about the same diameter as 8lbs monofilament. The other beauty of using braid is that it doesn’t suffer ageing and line setting the same as monofilaments, a line that has been on a spool for 3 years or more can often be turned around and used again for an equal length of time.

So, although dearer initially, braid works out cheaper in the longer term, but do be careful about how you use it and the applications you are putting it to. Also, don’t put too much braid on a spool, use only as much as you are likely to cast plus a little. And it’s always best to put a little monofilament on the spool first to stop the braid from biting onto the spool and, as has happened, distorting the reel’s spool.

ONTO THE LOADING.

It’s typical on fixed spool reels that, because they can cast much further, you nearly always use at least 100 yards or metres of monofilament. This is how most spools of line are sold in shops, in 100 metre/yard spools. It’s not always necessary to load a reel with so much, especially with expensive braid used for spinning where maybe 75 yards would do you and bear in mind that braid is likely to be sold in 150 yard spools.

Most reel’s spools are fairly deep and they’ll take far more than 100 yards, there are some shallow ‘match’ spools that will take about 100 yards, but otherwise you have to use a backing line. This backing line can be any old line from another reel, it doesn’t matter how rotten it is, it is unlikely to see the light of day again whilst fishing. If you haven’t got any old line, then buy some of the cheapest line you can find for the job.

Make the backing line thicker than the main line, this is just so you’re not using too much of it, but keep it in reasonably close in diameter to the line being loaded. For example, if you intend loading 4lbs line to use, then a backing line of 6 – 8 lbs would be ideal. A line of 15 lbs might be a mistake as some of the initial coils of your 4lbs line will just imbed into the spaces left between the 15lbs line.

By far the best way of holding the spool of line that is feeding the reel is so that the line will peel off the side of the spool. Do not stick it on a pencil (unless absolutely unavoidable) and let the spool turn as you take line off as this will encourage a certain amount of twist before you start. The spool must be held so that line comes off the side.


This video reafirms the point Jeff makes in his article.

When it does this, it will come off that spool either clockwise or anti-clockwise. To know which way is the right way, look from behind the reel when it is being turned and hold it right up to the new spool of line. Most modern reels now turn their bale arm in an anti-clockwise direction, the old original Mitchell reels turned in an clockwise direction so if you still have one of those, do the opposite to what I am about to tell you.

The line must come from off the spool so that it flows straight onto the reel in the same plane. Take a look at the video to see what I mean. So, just to affirm this, the spool of new line should be held with it’s sideplate facing the reel and the line coming from it in an anti-clockwise direction.
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When you will find this difficult, or even impossible, is when the spool of line has square sides (nuisance!) or worse still, there is a slit in the end plate to tuck the free end of the line into and the line keeps sticking in it. You will just have to put those on a pencil allowing the spool to turn and hope that it doesn’t impart too much twist on your reel.

On a fixed spool reel, the line should come to within one millimetre from the lip (see pic) of the spool, any more and you’ll get the line coiling off the reel. If you’re using braid make that within 2mm of the lip, braid will simply knot up if allowed to fall off the reel.

Another point that I will repeat in the third part to this series, try and soak braided line thoroughly before loading it. It helps it bed on the reel’s spool better.

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Comments (12 posted):

Peter Jacobs on 21/07/2009 12:00:51
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Jeff, Is it a function of the picture or does that reel spool look a little mis-shapen to you? (The picture being the last one in the article.) If it is damaged then the new line won't last long LOL
Mr Cholmondeley-Corker (PaSC) on 21/07/2009 12:48:52
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Jeff I used to load my reels as you describe with line coming off the spool the same way it goes onto the reel. However, Shimano instructions state that line should be loaded using 'the pencil through the middle' method due to the design of their rollers. Any thoughts on this anyone?
Stealph Viper on 21/07/2009 13:10:44
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I load my reels exactly as shown in the video, and i never have a problem with it, if it ain't broken don't fix it. Tight Lines.
geoffmaynard on 21/07/2009 16:33:55
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Jeff I used to load my reels as you describe with line coming off the spool the same way it goes onto the reel. However, Shimano instructions state that line should be loaded using 'the pencil through the middle' method due to the design of their rollers. Any thoughts on this anyone? Do it the way Jeff says and you won't have any problems, but both ways can work. The facts as I understand it is, with a fixed spool reel, there has to be some twist involved. Keeping it minimal is what is important. If the line on the spool has no twist in it, then it stands to reason that the act of casting will put a twist in it. (try Jeff's ribbon trick to prove it) Wind it back on to the spool and there's no twist. If you don't load the line from the side of the spool and use a pencil, it will impart a twist in the line as it is wound onto the spool. This twist then is lost in the act of casting.
MarkTheSpark on 23/07/2009 10:22:54
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Very sound advice from Jeff. The pencil method ensures that, when the line is cast, it has no twist though when on the spool, it's quite heavily twisted. Jeff's method ensures it's stored without twists and the twists are imparted into the line during the cast (for the reasons he describes) I suspect that, over time, the line ends up in between, so that it's slightly twisted on the spool AND when cast (with twists in the opposite direction). The ONLY function an anti-twist bail arm can perform is to prevent the reel forcing all the twist into the end of the line - i.e. allowing the twist to gradually make its way on to the spool. The mechanics of loading line through 90 degrees on to the spool always induces half a turn of twist every turn of the bail arm, no matter what device you have. Just a last word: if you're having trouble on the bank with line twist, try this. Take all terminal tackle off the reel line but have it trailing from the rod tip. Now go for a long walk across any open space (preferably turf) allowing the line to peel off the spool on the way. After perhaps 100 metres, stop, put the bail arm over and begin reeling in fairly slowly, putting a SMALL amount of tension into the line with your fingers. As the line comes back to you, any pent-up twists will come out, and you can then fish without hassle.
Peter Jacobs on 23/07/2009 13:37:16
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Do it like Mark says, or alternatively; go and buy a Gardner Spin Doctor lead (they come in two or three sizes) and use it at the end of the day/session fishing.
Neneman Nick on 26/07/2009 08:56:52
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Can i have a link for the first article....centre pins ???
klik2change on 01/09/2009 12:25:46
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Some time after loading fixed spools, not usually very long, I find the line underneath the line usually used, has a fine twist in it, as if someone has taken one end and twisted from the other end. The same effect is noticeable a long way back on the line. It doesnt seem to matter what make of reel [I have okuma and shimano]. I always load it the way jeff says in the article, taping the spool to a heavy weight. I have recently started to use a Daiwa line loader, which works like "the pencil through the spool" - but it still happens. I am not sure if this is a problem or not, as it always happens, though it does seem odd... Obviously it doesnt happen on centre pins. Twist is usually only an actual problem for me if I load the spool the wrong way round and it is always immediately obvious. :confused::)
Jeff Woody on 01/09/2009 16:34:32
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Nature of the beast, spinning reels. What line was it? What can happen is the line beneath develops a set and coils off. Also, it is squashed unde the tension of the line above and this can seem like a twist, but in reality, it's just deformed. Try taking a section of it tightly and running it quickly over your trouser to create heat. Hold it stretched until the line cools a little then let it hang. See if the coils and "twist" are still there.
klik2change on 01/09/2009 19:29:58
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What can happen is the line beneath develops a set and coils off. Also, it is squashed unde the tension of the line above and this can seem like a twist, but in reality, it's just deformed.Hiya Woody, The line is every kind of line I have used for the last ten years. There is a long list. What you have said here, though, is a reasonable explanation. I just tried your suggestion with the line. It flattens out. Thanks for your explanantion - I have been trying to understand what it is for years... Perhaps the "twist" effect I was describing might be partially caused by the line trying to bed in on the coils below. The line lay mechanisms prevent it bedding in directly like on a centre pin, but it sort of nearly beds in, slightly at an angle, so you get the deformation. Does that sound right?
Jeff Woody on 01/09/2009 21:54:04
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Yes, that's about it. There will be some twist, of course, but it mightn't show like you said. It would more likely come off the reel in springs and loops if it were twist. Being a little deformed doesn't do it any harm and on a very hot day you would notice it getting better again. No matter how reels lay the line there will always be crossovers where one line tightly wrapped over another tries to push it into a groove created by two below that and so on. It's surprising how many people will change a line when there's no real need to.
klik2change on 01/09/2009 23:29:01
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It's surprising how many people will change a line when there's no real need to. I know nylon will degrade in sunlight after a time, or so it is said, but I have line on some spools that I have had for more years than I know. Once you take a few metres off it then you're down to line that's been in the dark since it was last cast out. I have known people who, quite literally, changed their line every month! [Carpers again...]
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