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Anyone for quoits? Anyone for quoits?

Kevin Perkins calls for anglers to grow some collective gonads

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Are we revolting, or do we have good reason to be? I am struggling to see what justification there is for the grossly unfair imposition of a Rod Licence (Tax) on anglers.


Consider the scenario that if I dig a lake in my own very private back garden, I legally have to purchase a Rod Licence to fish in it, why? Just what have my actions got to do with the Environment Agency? If I build a tennis court, golf course, cricket pitch etc. etc., I don’t have to buy a Golf Club Licence, a Tennis Racket Licence, or a Cricket Bat Licence so why are anglers being singled out?


I don’t have to buy the aforementioned Club, Racket or Bat Licence to participate in any of those sports at any municipal facilities either. Now, those facilities will have been provided for and maintained by my local council, and the costs would have been met from Council Tax. And before anyone says they have to pay to use said facilities, be assured that they never ‘wash their face’ and are heavily subsidised. Any fees, subscriptions etc. will go nowhere near covering the original build and ongoing operating and maintenance costs.


So ask yourself (or perhaps more pertinently, ask your local council) why there isn’t a nice, subsidised angling venue near you, paid for out of your Council Tax. My own local council has some 106,000 residents generating £18.7m in income for the council. Of that, 7% is set aside for ‘leisure provision’, that’s £1.3m per annum, in fact, or just over £12 per resident. This £12 per year goes towards putting water in the local swimming baths (and heating it) grass on golf courses, football, rugby and cricket pitches, tennis court nets, boules courts, squash courts, croquet lawns, well, you get the picture. Now, with angling being one of the (allegedly) biggest participator sports, it follows that it should get a large percentage of that ‘leisure provision’ shouldn’t it?


And if you drill down a bit further into yours, and my, contribution to every other sport - bar angling - through taxation, just have a look at the detail on your Council Tax bill. You will see a precept payment to your local Town/Parish council. Now, you may or may not know that your Town/Parish council can/does set aside monies to make grants to their (that is your) local community. Many times these grants are to worthwhile causes such as coach trips for pensioners, wheelchair access ramps, play equipment for pre-school groups etc. etc.


But often there are requests for items such as local junior football team strips. Now, a full kit with training bibs and rain jackets usually comes out at £1,000. That works out around £70 for each of the ‘mummy’s little darling’, budding Wayne Rooneys in that team that you and I are paying for. And when I was a councillor, we had (and granted) around six to eight requests for junior team kits every season (the little chaps grow out of them, you see...)


While I’m going on about money being sloshed around on ‘minority’ sports, my own council had a rugby club foisted upon them due to their old ground and facilities being deemed not up to standard. Despite being in an area with little local interest in rugby (the club in question had less than 100 members) all objections were swept aside, a local park in the middle of a residential area was ‘handed over’ by the District Council and a new clubhouse, match pitches and floodlit training facilities were built at a cost of £2.5m.  For every member of that rugby club that works out to £25,000 handout each of taxpayer’s money. Do you know of any individual angler or angling club round your way that have had that sort of money handed to them?


At one council meeting I did express my disbelief at so much being given to so few. With tongue jammed firmly in cheek I suggested that if a couple of local residents bemoaned the lack of provision for playing deck quoits I didn’t doubt that the District Council would  have a decommissioned cruise liner hauled up the Ouzel and moored in a convenient place for said residents to be allowed to continue with their chosen sport. Suffice to say there were a few guffaws at this preposterous suggestion, but worryingly, there were a couple of nervous looks flashed between councillors which seemed to suggest that should the question of deck quoits come before the Council there might have to be a decision to be made. Can’t be seen to be discriminating against a minority sport now, can the...?


And how about the wider picture of financial support for sports (other than angling)? You cannot fail to be aware that we are staging the Olympics and Paralympics in London this year. Set aside for a moment the hundreds, nay probably thousands of millions of pounds being chucked at staging these events. Turn your thoughts instead to the thousands of competitors rocking up to take part in their chosen events. How many of them do you think will have to be in possession of a licence to allow them to take part in their respective sports before they set foot on the track or field?  Mind you, it would be fun to watch an official trying to stop Usain Bolt in mid stride to check his ‘Spiked Shoes’ permit...!


So given the huge amounts of cash available to sports (other than angling) at all levels then why, oh why, are we saddled with the anachronism of a Rod Licence? The £25m or so it raises is a spit in the ocean compared to the amounts lavished on every other sport. Indeed, £1.50 added to, or better still, set aside from every Council Tax bill would raise the required amount without anyone even noticing. And for once, everyone would contribute to angling, as opposed to anglers having to pay extra for their sport (which is surely a case of double taxation?)


And what do the EA do with our £25m? A large proportion of it must go onto enforcement, over 124,000 licence checks were carried out last year, with 4,100 reported for licence offences. This is a chicken and egg situation, because if we didn’t need licences, the EA wouldn’t need to spend valuable resources on enforcement, and the monies raised in fines worked out at £160* per angler.


The solution to all this? Simple, we all refuse to buy a rod licence next season.  Instead, the 1 million of us who do (did) buy a Rod Licence will contribute £15 each per year to the Angling Trust. If that is to be the body that is representing the welfare of anglers in this country then let’s give it a big enough war chest to get on and do something for us. The first item on the agenda to be bringing about the de-criminalisation of angling by scrapping the onerous Rod Licence. And then bung the EA the £650,000 ‘income’ it will lose through not persecuting anglers.


Instead, the enforcement officers can get out and prosecute to the hilt those who illegally trap or remove fish; surely the law should treat illegal fish removal at the same level as livestock rustling. And if a Closed season is to continue, then those who flout it can expect to feel the full weight of the law. Ramp up the punishments and hound the perpetrators until the message gets across. And with a £10-£15m war chest, the ATr can easily fund any actions against for fishery owners culling cormorants to protect their livelihood. If it’s OK to shoot dogs worrying sheep, where’s the difference in a fishery owner protecting his stocks (and livelihood)


So there we have it in my opinion, time for anglers to grow some collective gonads and stick up for themselves at last.


Start revolting...!!!


*Now here’s a thing which bugs me more than a little. The courts hand out fines of £160 for not having a £27 Rod Licence, that’s a six fold penalty for disobeying the law, and should be enough of a deterrent, although it’s pretty steep for something which could be called a victimless crime. 

However, get caught driving a car without insurance (which I would rate as a somewhat higher misdemeanour) and that normally attracts an average fine of £110. As the average cost of car insurance is around the £400 mark, how is that a deterrent? Shouldn’t it be nearer £2400?







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Comments (38 posted):

Fred Bonney on 13/02/2012 15:17:45
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Came on line just in time to read this as it came up and was expecting something different. Copyright the article quick Kevin. A well put together article with a good argument and a constructive conclusion. Excellent.
Bluenose on 13/02/2012 15:18:13
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Kevin you normally make me laugh, but that's just pee'd me right off! Tries to remove* Tickletackle sticker! *Fails
Peter Jacobs on 13/02/2012 15:19:12
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This is a dedicated thread for discussing article: Revolting Anglers I can't believe that no one has yet to state: The anglers I meet are revolting enough, thanks very much . . . . . . .
dangermouse on 13/02/2012 15:41:07
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Great article Kevin.
geoffmaynard on 13/02/2012 15:56:51
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I think this is your best piece ever. A new perspective for a change
Fred Bonney on 13/02/2012 16:01:05
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deleted a post that I posted before dinner!!
Mr Cholmondeley-Corker (PaSC) on 13/02/2012 16:09:21
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How many local councils provide 'handouts' for fox hunting and train spotting? I recon most of the non angling community sees angling as sat somewhere between the two - a bit nerdy and bit of an odd thing to do ("...and then you throw it back???") verging on cruel blood sport. I think womens' ball sports will start to get recognition, support and mainstream media coverage before angling ever does.
barbelboi on 13/02/2012 16:12:02
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Excellent article Kevin. Jerry
james on 13/02/2012 16:36:05
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In the article, Kevin said "Consider the scenario that if I dig a lake in my own very private back garden, I legally have to purchase a Rod Licence to fish in it, why?" The simple answer is because of the requirements set out in the Salmon & Freshwater Fisheries Act 1975. The legislation is there to protect fish (from anglers and other people that exploit them), it's not about raising revenue for funding sport. I spent a few years working with councils trying to persuade them of the benefits of investing into angling infrastructure. Part of the problem though is that the general public is not very good at managing angling facilities. Most well-maintained fisheries are in private ownership (fishing clubs, or commercial fisheries). It is a complex issue, and I do not believe that you can draw straight parallels between angling and any other 'sport'. I'll try to explain... if you find any town that has enough residents, and build a football pitch, then people will be able to come and play football. The blueprint for a football pitch looks pretty much the same no matter where you go in the country. Same goes for a basketball court, tennis club, rowing course, martial arts studio, etc etc. Sports projects are generally easy to replicate. However, there are many disciplines to angling, and an infinite number of types of fishery, habitat, stock composition and density, etc. That is why statistics in angling are very misleading. If you build a 'coarse match lake', then it's unlikely to appeal to fly fishermen, or specimen barbel anglers. Identify a quality public-owned salmon river beat, and not many carp anglers will be interested. There is a further problem in that angling is greatly influenced by external 'environmental' factors. You dont tend to get issues with cormorants, otters, zebra mussels, blue-green algae, KHV or signal crayfish at a football pitch. Compound that lot with the fact that anglers can rarely agree on anything (plenty of evidence on this site of that!) and we gradually become a difficult market to understand and cater for. Other sports can access funding because their 'product' is easily identifiable. Invest in football pitches, and you'll get more grass roots clubs, more participation, healthier kids and maybe a knock-on effect that one of your new recruits might one day play centre-half for his country. The TV and sponsorship money at the top always trickles down and at least there's a chance it is put to good use. Invest in a public-owned fishing lake, and the only thing I can guarantee is that you'll get a myriad of opinions about what different fish should be stocked and what the rules should be made, a pipeline full of potential environmental 'issues' that can put the whole investment in jeopardy, and not many professional people stepping forward to manage any of these problems. If you find a successful angling 'project', then every time there is a small number (often just 1) of very dedicated people, making hardly any money, at the centre of it. Doesnt sound much like football to me. How much is Carlos Tevez getting paid again? Dont get me wrong, I think angling is a wonderful thing, be it a sport, a pass-time, an engagement tool, or a vehicle for education and well-being. It had great depth and complexity, and is worthy of far more than being labelled as just another 'sport'.
Fred Bonney on 13/02/2012 16:46:47
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I like it...I like it, a well constructed response .
beerweasel on 13/02/2012 17:17:40
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Nice article, although I'm in favour of keeping the rod license. I would rather tax people like cyclists (yes I'm a cyclist) say £5 a year, after all car owners pay road tax. Also bring back the dog license.
Merv Harrison on 13/02/2012 18:58:48
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An excellent, well thought, well crafted article Kevin, and very valid points made. Re the quoits issue, "Councillors giving nervous looks at each other", may just be that they had already awarded a grant, but it had been used by councillors, to pay for 'Cruise tickets' to assess viability.
Titus on 13/02/2012 19:24:31
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Not only do councils fail to recognise angling as a sport many of them charge clubs a rent to manage waters for them. Hardly fair is it?
Lord Paul of Sheffield on 13/02/2012 23:09:45
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good arguement Kevin will you raise it with your local mp?
Morespiders on 14/02/2012 00:51:49
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Very good Perkins, I owe you a pint next time we meet Mad isnt it?
S-Kippy on 14/02/2012 05:54:00
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Excellent article Kevin...I'd love to see a politician try to explain that.
markg on 14/02/2012 09:00:46
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A well run council fishery offering intuition, a carp lake, a fly lake and a coarse lake. It would provide jobs and could be free or a small charge levied. sounds good to me. Not paying the license. If everyone did so it would have an effect but, getting everyone to do so would be impossible I would imagine. Is there an anglers union?
Jeff Woodhouse on 14/02/2012 11:50:49
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Goor piece and so many good points. First thing to do is ask the Environment Agency's Recreation Department what Angling is not recognised as a recreation. Reason given is usually, well you have a fisheries department looking after you. WRONG - the fisheries department are there to see that all waters, rivers, canals and lakes, are good successful thriving areas for holding fish - not all necessarily open to angling or angling opportunites. We do though, in most cases, benefit. Back in the 70s our District Council near Manchester set up a Local Sports Council, following the lines of the national Sports Council created by Government. We had three areas, I was Chairman of North, and after assessing and discussing applications for grants we put them forward to the central body made up up two representatives (usually chair and secy) from each of the three areas, a central Secretary and Treasurer (both elected by the areas) and two unelected members of the Council who held vetos. We were given £10,000 per year (quite a sum in the 70s) and gave out most of it to deserving causes. We also had another tap via advice given by the Assistant Recreation Officer (ARO) who had knowledge of other sources of funding from such as County Councils etc. and other means of getting work done. We did have a local angling group, Hyde Fed, apply who had £500 to improve the local canal and after approval we added a further £500. We then took their case to County and got them a further £4000. What £4,500 of grant would be worth today I have no idea, possibly x 10, £45,000? The local Sports Council was a good model and should have been rolled out to other areas, but we started to suffer when the Council said that in the next year they would only give us the amount we would give away and not just another £10,000. That year many of the projects we put forward were vetoed by the two (Labour) Councillors and we only gave away just over £2,000. In effect, the idea was quashed by the parsimonious behavour of the Council's representatives. Shortly after I left the area for Lincolnshire anyway. I will mention one other project that I did get through, which started off as a group of veteran (elderly, OAPs) bowlers who wanted to do up an old disused council garage and make it a tea rooms. The Council refused, but the ARO suggested we apply, along with two other worthwhile cases, for a Government scheme whereby the Council bought the materials and the Government paid for the labour for unemployed tradesmen to build three brand new spanking bowling huts together with kitchen facilities. This went through and my hand has never been so severely shaken before or since by the secretary of the veteran bowlers thanking me for what was a 'palace' of a job. Perhaps we could do with schemes like this one now to make use of unemployed tradespeople! As for what else the EA Fisheries does, you'd have to get closely involved with them. Presently, our area are planning to spend soem money improving access for anglers to weirpools on the Thames. That's why I don't mind paying my £27 per year for a rod licence, I see where most of it is going.
Ron The Hat Clay on 15/02/2012 08:18:04
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First of all I am in favour of keeping the rod licence. It gives us respectablity, credibility, and provides funds for our sport, or it should. It also gives us a reason to defend ourselves against other water users who pay nothing. Some years ago, I think it was Ian Duncan Smith, suggested that the rod licence be abolished. This was obviously a ploy to win votes. However there was a big outcry against the idea, and it was quickly forgotten.
chav professor on 15/02/2012 10:06:40
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I think canoists are probably seen in a better light in government circles and they contribute nothing........... perhaps the rod licence is all the leverage we shall ever have - whilst it generates an income, come be periodically increased and our expectaions remain low, no one will touch us. Sad really!
Ron The Hat Clay on 15/02/2012 10:21:05
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I think canoists are probably seen in a better light in government circles and they contribute nothing........... perhaps the rod licence is all the leverage we shall ever have - whilst it generates an income, come be periodically increased and our expectaions remain low, no one will touch us. Sad really! Sounds about right to me Chav. ALL THE MORE REASON TO JOIN THE ANGLER'S TRUST!!
Mr Cholmondeley-Corker (PaSC) on 15/02/2012 10:26:23
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Are you a member Ron?
Lord Paul of Sheffield on 15/02/2012 10:39:01
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I seem to rememebr Ron was a life member of some society that merged with tyhe AT and is a life member of the AT
Kevin Perkins on 15/02/2012 13:11:44
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Thanks for the replies and comments. In particular the fulsome reply from James intimates that angling is not classed as a 'sport' and so maybe outside of the realms of those who can receive bucket loads of cash from the general (council) taxpaying public. If angling is only a 'pastime' then I know of another that receives a great deal of largesse from you and me and that is gardeners. How so you say? Well once again your local Town/Parish Council now has control of all the allotments in its area, (my council had six) Control was handed over a couple of years ago in a move to devolve power down to a local level. Dont think for one moment that the peppercorn rents chaged go anywhere near paying for water supplies, repair and maintenance of ridings (footpaths) repair and maintenance of secure hedging and/or fencing around the perimeter, repair and maintenance of any roadways/parking spaces on the site, providing high security padlocks and non-copy keys for all entrances, producing invoices, collecting arrears, clearing and rotovating abandoned plots, arbitrating in disputes between allotment holders (there are always some...) providing Public Liability Insurance for the site, etc.etc. The shortfall of income over expenditure is made up by the Town/Parish Council with your precept money. And while we are on about 'hidden' costs to you and me.....Do you have any PCSO's wandering about your area? If your local Police Authority (another charge you will see on your Coucil Tax bill) don't appear to provide enough visible policing, your local Town/Parish Council can 'buy' extra PCSO's at a cost of around £15k per year. That is a definite case of double taxation....... My comment about council funded fishing venues was tongue in cheek as it is unworkable, but funding should be available for new fishing platforms to replace old/unsafe items, re-stocking, weed clearance etc. That to my mind is no different to your local (council) tennis courts getting new nets every year so people can play tennis for the two weeks before Wimbledon and the week after then sit unused for the rest of the year....!!!!
Jeff Woodhouse on 15/02/2012 13:33:55
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funding should be available for new fishing platforms to replace old/unsafe items, re-stocking, weed clearance etc.From the Council or the EA? Councils own very little land by the rivers most of which is cultivated with alien shrubs blocking direct access to the river and canals are the property (usually) of British Waterways. The EA owns a fair bit of land by the river and most is free to fish, having paid for the rod licence, but stocking rivers is not a general policy unless it has suffered a polution incident or needs a boost in b***** (shhhh, I didn't mention them) stocks. If the EA were to improve the banks and access, would they be used more, I'd like to think so, but the up-coming close season has, for me, always been a prohibitor to get people involved. Councils and ponds - yes, they should put more thought into this, plenty of opportunity in many areas. It's a sport that teaches, in general, good behaviour and respect for nature and property so in time you could end up with far less vandalism and riots, which cost the councils far more. Where to start though? They'll cry that they aren't being given Central Government funding right now - poor things.....
Kevin Perkins on 15/02/2012 13:41:52
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From the Council or the EA? Any angling club has the right to approach its local Town/Parish Council for a grant to claw back some of the funds thay have paid in through their precept. If there isn't enough of a provision made in the grants budget for a particular year then that budget can be increased by that amount the following year and a rise in the precept will cover it if funds can't be made available in any other way . That way everybody contributes, maybe only pennies, but in the same way they do with making up the shortfall on allotments, providing PCSO's etc. etc.
Jeff Woodhouse on 15/02/2012 13:48:42
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More clubs should do it, I agree, Kevin.
mark barrett 2 on 15/02/2012 13:57:49
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More clubs should do it, I agree, Kevin. I dont know where you get the idea Woody that the majority of EA owned waters are free to fish. 99.9% of the water they own is leased out to angling clubs at comercial rates.
Paul Boote on 15/02/2012 14:27:26
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And the moral is (if any): if we Anglers behave in a revolting manner we will be considered as and treated by the powers that be as ignore at all costs, truly revolting specimens.
Lord Paul of Sheffield on 15/02/2012 14:44:57
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sorry Paul once again I fail to understand your post - dumb it down for me
Paul Boote on 15/02/2012 14:55:17
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Sighs. Act like a bunch of mardy pre-school infants making impossible demands and we'll be bundled off to bed without any supper. Politicians of all colours detest whiners and special case pleaders and, in extreme cases, will even go out of their way to spank their little botties. Got it now?
Mr Cholmondeley-Corker (PaSC) on 15/02/2012 15:02:45
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A bit more....
Lord Paul of Sheffield on 15/02/2012 15:03:15
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not too sure what I think what you are saying is if we moan about it as anglers we wont get any funds is this correct?
Paul Boote on 15/02/2012 15:08:34
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Stop the pathetic whines and moaning, and present our concerns (not "I want, I want, I want!" DEMANDS) cogently and in an adult manner. Impossible for a good many of our number, I know, but...........
Mr Cholmondeley-Corker (PaSC) on 15/02/2012 15:11:43
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FFS, anglers can't even get together among themselves and agree on how barbel should be fished for let alone represent themselves as a united front.
Paul Boote on 15/02/2012 15:13:33
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Indeed, but then we are [ame=http://youtu.be/w7RIgs3eygo]Wur Doomed, Entombed & Marooned... - YouTube[/ame]
Mr Cholmondeley-Corker (PaSC) on 15/02/2012 15:16:16
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Well there's an idea. Over to Lord Paul I think. OK your lordship - your task is to cast the FM regulars of your choice as the Dad's Army characters. Your time starts..........NOW!
Lord Paul of Sheffield on 15/02/2012 15:34:27
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Corky I did it a while ago - some of the names wont mean anything to those new on FM You can replace Captain Graham with Captain Ian, replace Maurice Cakey with Maurice Boote, repalce ARP Bailiff Baz Hodges with - Baz attempts to upset Mainwaring and uses any means to snatch club cards from the brave FM boys with ARP Steph Hodges - Steph attempts to upset Mainwaring and uses any means to snatch rodsb cards from the brave FM boys, repalce Private Ed Sponge with Private Mark Sponge FM's Dad's Army I can now reveal the BBC have finally given the go ahead for an angling programme but only if it could be combined with a remake of a popular series. Several idea were tried - "Not Open all hours" - Graham Arkwright a tight fisted tackle shop owner and his nephew Corky try to sell tackle in the closed season "Last of the Summer Fishing" 3 useless anglers (insert names as you think fit) attempt to catch fish using more bizarre method - often including sending someone down a hill in a bath tub But finally the BBC agreed to FM' Dad's Army - the FM web site is under threat from invasion and a Home Guard is set up. All the Dad's Army regulars will be included but with slight changes to reflect FM. All Character portrayed are real and any malice is intended. Cast Captain Graham Mainwaring - A short overbearing individual who assumes the rank of captain due to his role of Editor, the rest of the Home Guard remain loyal to him despite his obvious faults. Sergeant Arthur Poshers - In many way a better man than Mainwaring - he is educated, well spoken and a gent, he often angers Mainwaring with his politeness. When Mainwaring orders Poshers to get the Guard to cast in Poshers says "Would you mind awfully casting in chaps?" Lance Corporal Ron Jones - An old duffer who has a story for every occasion, all of them long winded and boring. His catch phrases include "Don't panic" when ever a bite is missed, "They don't like it up 'em" when referring to up stream dry fly fishing. Private Kevin Walker - A spiv of the highest order, he is always trying to sell his over priced good from his company "Tickle Tackle" Private Matt Pike - a bit of a wet blanket - says he cab make a fish- in but at the last minute he has to pull out due to some poor excuse. Matt wears a scarf to all fishing trip and is called "Stupid Boy" frequently by Mainwaring for casting into trees. Private Lord Paul Godfrey - the Home Guard medic, whose cure for all ills his brandy and port. He lives with his sister Dolly and Cissy but these are never seen and some suspect he's murdered them. Private Spiders Frazer - Originally this was to be Private Jimmy Frazer a dower Scot but Jimmy's not been around for a while so Spider got the roll - he's main catch phrase is "We're all doomed" when he sees Matt Pike attempt Stret Pegging Private Ed Sponge - a character that represents those character of FM not in Ron Jones section - he has few lines but keeps up a "One a day" joke thread The Guard's main antagonists are ARP Bailiff Baz Hodges - Baz attempts to upset Mainwaring and uses any means to snatch club cards from the brave FM boys Rev Monk Farthing - the Vicar who resents Mainwaring using the village hall for casting practice, when he needs the hall to entertain local the Women's Institute Maurice Cakey - The Verger who sides with the vicar and the bailiff and tries to spread rumours about Mainwaring's wealth.


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