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The otter genie is out of the bottle... The otter genie is out of the bottle...

Rod Sturdy has his say on what many consider to be the greatest threat angling, as we currently know it, has ever faced

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


This Far and no Further...


…should be our response when it comes to otters.


The otter genie is out of the bottle, as someone said recently. Otters are now here, and, like it or not, here to stay. The name of the game is now containment of the problem through active measures.


One of the fist things we should be pushing for is a ban on the actual release of otters. Encouraging them is one thing, but wilfully adding to the impact on an already strained environment is quite another.


The idealists and extremists of the environmental brigade have been actively releasing tame, hand-reared specimens into the wild. There have been many instances of these turning up, bold as brass and with no apparent fear of humans (unlike otters in the wild) by prime stretches of river and promptly helping themselves to a specimen barbel or two, taking a few bites and leaving the carcass on the bank.


It is all so reminiscent of the misguided animal rights extremists in the 1970’s who raided mink farms and released the occupants into the wild with absolutely no thought to the damage they would cause - or those who ‘liberated’ rainbow trout from stew ponds, resulting in the unfortunate fish being eaten by pike.


To be fair about this issue, I very much admire much of the work done by wildlife trusts and the like. Except when it comes to what appears to me to be their tunnel vision. In practice this means the one-sided promotion of predators, totally without regard to the fundamental question of what a given predatory species is going to eat. In the case of otters, their preferred food – the eel – has all but disappeared. And given that a large proportion of British rivers still fall below standards – in particular as regards fish stocks – as laid down in the European Water Quality Directive, food is at a premium. Bear in mind that an otter needs to eat approximately 15-20% of its body weight per day. And do not forget the otter’s endearing habit of killing large fish, and only taking a bite or two.


A friend of mine with his own short stretch of a prime chalkstream has on several occasions woken up to find that his garden has been adorned overnight with the mutilated corpse of a large salmon or carp. The large barbel of the upper Thames are now a thing of the past. It is nothing short of a crying shame that a fish which can take up to 15 years to reach specimen size can be wiped out within seconds.


Of course the idealistic, blinkered environmentalists will say that otters are truly part of the UK natural scene and must therefore at all costs be restored to their rightful place. This view takes no account of the fact that the otter’s preferred food has gone into near-terminal decline. The eel are now classified as ‘critically endangered’ and is on the ‘red list’ of species under severe threat. This fact is hardly ever mentioned in television wildlife programmes, which are always much more concerned with trumpeting the good news that the species which used to prey on eels is back in the land of the living and thriving out there in the so-called ‘wild’. But in reality it is the eel, not the otter, which is the prime indicator of the general state of the environment.


The existence of predators in any eco-system is of course a positive sign. It demonstrates that the environment is a rich one. And predation is one means of quickly weeding out unhealthy specimens of the prey species. Otters specifically will drive out, if not kill, mink. And the fact that mink are seen off will mean that water voles will enjoy a comeback.


But wilful (no other word will do) release of a predator into an eco-system when its preferred prey no longer exists makes no sense. It is like pretending to cure a disease by playing with the symptoms: if we give the patient a rosy complexion – a sure sign of a healthy individual – with a bit of make-up on his face, then he will be well again. It is equivalent to papering over the cracks when a building is suffering from severe structural damage.


This is in fact the main issue I have with the wildlife and bird lobbies. They generally cannot see beyond dry land. Whilst they strive ideally to think ‘landscape-wide’ (not my phrase – it has been used by Mr Chris Packham himself) they are certainly incapable of seeing the land – freshwater – sea – air system, the whole biosphere, as a complete, single and interdependent system. It is in fact the ailing and increasingly empty seas we should be focusing a great deal of our efforts on. Decline of migratory species like the eel and the Atlantic salmon really do deserve our serious attention. And in the case of eels and salmon it is anglers who represent a significant proportion of those agitating for proper research and remedies.


And in any case, other things have moved on considerably since otters went into severe decline in the middle of the last century. The human population has increased, and with it the proportion of us living in urban environments - as has ownership of cars. This all goes to explain the stories in the media of tame otters turning up in coffee shops and garden sheds, no doubt looking for a free meal. Certainly there have been instances of our whiskery friends raiding suburban garden ponds. And the otter road kill has now reached significant figures: at least 1,800 since 2007. I hope the criminals who released these unfortunate animals, with total disregard for official guidelines, are proud of their achievement.


So what should we be doing? Well, the first is to support the work that the Angling Trust is already doing on this issue. Specifically, this is:


• Pressing at a political level for a moratorium on release of otters into the countryside

• Persuading Natural England to actually publicise the fact that it is against release of otters

• Supporting angling clubs and organisations on issues such as provision of otter-proof fencing


Ideally, the Angling Trust should be doing much more on this matter. It should be:


• Funding more and better research on otters’ specifically to establish why some rivers tolerate the presence of otters, whilst others do not

• Employing a dedicated member of staff to liaise with affected fisheries

• Making sure that government money set aside for otter fencing is actually applied for (at present it is not, so there is no chance of it being increased!)


But to do all that it would need much more support and cash from the angling public – from you in other words.


Let me stress again: there is no longer such a thing as a ‘natural’ habitat. All environments in the developed world are actively shaped and managed. Angling is part of that management process. Anglers of my generation reading this can congratulate themselves as being associated with a pressure group (yes, we were a force to be reckoned with once…) which helped to bring about the general clean-up of Britain’s rivers. Creation of fisheries provides more than fish. It gives wildlife in general a breathing space. So we deserve more than a few seats at the table of environmental care. And the otter issue is one in which we should have a significant voice.


And at the same time our sport makes a significant contribution to the national economy. It is worth £3.5bn a year - another reason to defend it properly through its representative body.


Think about it, have a look at the Angling Trust website , join, and be counted.







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Comments (43 posted):

bennygesserit on 19/07/2012 12:19:17
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really after all the recent spats we need an otter thread ? Are you drumming up business by writing controversial threads ? What about as a nice couterpoint an article written by an angler who is sympathetic to a unified view of river ecology ?
S-Kippy on 19/07/2012 12:39:51
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Its a valid issue & the point is well made. I've no problem with otter per se...but I do have a problem with captive raised otter being released into areas that simply cannot support them. I encountered a proper wild otter last week...and though it popping up in the pool I was fishing for sea trout was a PITA from a fishing point of view it had as much right as me [probably more] to be there. I watched it for a bit,wished it good luck and moved on. That river & the area generally can support an otter or two. Others can't and that's the problem. Quite a night that...an otter,a barn owl and a nice sea trout. Doesn't get much better so far as I'm concerned.
chav professor on 20/07/2012 06:29:25
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The otter problem seems to be specific to some rivers and some still waters. Otter reintroductions mean that numbers are not allowed to naturalize, they do not behave in the way they should - e.g. Otters hunting in packs on the Wensum - this is not normal otter behaviour and indicative of a pod that has been released in a social group. The damage caused in the short term is deep and long lasting......... My river has had otters now for over 10 years, the situation seems to have reached a status quo....... they are there, but fish numbers have not crashed. Carp seem to be more susceptible, with roach and perch carcasses regularly found on the bank - but nothing to kick up a stink about. Thus far, Chub appear to be far more resilient. I would not have a problem with the introduction of a native species if river habitat was deemed fit to support the reintroduction. Putting another predator into a damaged ecosystem was asking for trouble. I was not surprised that Dave Tipping has no problems regarding otters - he is a Yorkshire angler and their spate rivers may be better at coping with the additional pressure. Small lowland rivers suffering from abstraction, pollution, straightening and dredging - well thats a different story.
john step on 20/07/2012 11:54:42
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I agree with the idea that different venues suffer differently with otters. I see them quite regulaly on the Trent and Tidal Trent and there are still large numbers of barbel and other species there. My club lake is a different matter. The carnage of the carp, tench and crucians had to be seen to be believed until we rigged up an electric fence.
S-Kippy on 20/07/2012 12:46:57
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I was not surprised that Dave Tipping has no problems regarding otters - he is a Yorkshire angler and their spate rivers may be better at coping with the additional pressure. Small lowland rivers suffering from abstraction, pollution, straightening and dredging - well thats a different story. I hadn't considered that Christian. You're probably right.
Fred Bonney on 20/07/2012 13:03:22
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On the whole a well balanced article. Thanks.
Ron The Hat Clay on 20/07/2012 13:13:24
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Good article. JOIN THE ATR NOW - DON'T DELAY Life Member - Angling Trust
the real will smith on 20/07/2012 13:14:26
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Where Rod writes: "Ideally, the Angling Trust should be doing much more on this matter. It should be:" this could actually read: "Ideally, the Angling Trust would like to be doing much more on this matter. It wants to:" The next section of Rod's article explains why the Angling Trust would like to and want to do more. That is, when greater numbers of anglers join and support our campaigns we will be able to do even more to protect fish and fishing... Will Smith Membership Manager, The Angling Trust
Bluenose on 20/07/2012 13:39:42
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The next section of Rod's article explains why the Angling Trust would like to and want to do more. That is, when greater numbers of anglers join and support our campaigns we will be able to do even more to protect fish and fishing... Will Smith Membership Manager, The Angling Trust There is a debate on the merits or otherwise of joining the Angling Trust here Will. I'm sure your input would be appreciated!
Fred Bonney on 20/07/2012 14:05:12
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I'm sure he's seen it and is well out of it!!;);)
Bluenose on 20/07/2012 14:54:24
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.... and is well out of it!!;);) As he's Membership Manager I'd beg to differ.
Cliff Hatton 2 on 20/07/2012 15:30:17
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I agree with Fred: a well-balanced article. Low industrial output, the balance of payments, the national debt, congested roads, international relations, the Leveson Inquiry, the banking scandal....none of these come close in importance to the matter of the environment. With an unstable foundation, everything falls down. I won't buy tuna - as much as I love it: flakes, steaks, chunks, fillets...in bags, cans and on slabs in every (?) supermarket in the world? How long can this go on? And eels? How can 'we' have reduced the eel population by 99% in 10 years? Shouldn't we have a Minister for Eels? They were Nature's bread 'n' butter for most of my life! Well done, Rod, on taking the time to construct this important article - it deserves a wider audience, I think.
james on 20/07/2012 15:33:32
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I've no problem with otter per se...but I do have a problem with captive raised otter being released into areas that simply cannot support them. . Who is releasing otters? I see this stuff spouted all the time. No captive-bred otters have been introduced since 1999. Otters, ANGLING TRUST Joint statement.
S-Kippy on 20/07/2012 17:25:33
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Oh...well it must be true then. Amazingly resilient things these otters...without any outside help they've gone from hardly any to rampant in under 15 years.
chav professor on 20/07/2012 17:32:17
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it is naive in the extreme to consider otters are not being reintroduced........ not a stocking program, but rehabilitated individuals need to be put back somewhere.
bennygesserit on 20/07/2012 17:36:57
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it is naive in the extreme to consider otters are not being reintroduced........ not a stocking program, but rehabilitated individuals need to be put back somewhere. How many would you guess Chav and where do they originate from ?
chav professor on 20/07/2012 18:38:09
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Belstead brook in Ipswich had some introduced.... there is a wooden statue to commemorate the occasion erected two years ago...How many??? I should imagine that will be kept dark don't you?
Jeff Woodhouse on 20/07/2012 21:16:50
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Amazingly resilient things these otters...without any outside help they've gone from hardly any to rampant in under 15 years. Think how the red kites spread in that same period, Skippy. Also, have you notice a fall in the numbers of mink? Not breeding? No new releases by idiots? Are the otters taking over their territories? Or am I talking a load of spheroids? :confused:
S-Kippy on 20/07/2012 22:03:33
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Think how the red kites spread in that same period, Skippy. Also, have you notice a fall in the numbers of mink? Not breeding? No new releases by idiots? Are the otters taking over their territories? Or am I talking a load of spheroids? :confused: The Red Kites have done extraordinarily well but you might argue that they filled an empty niche...they dont seem to be in direct competition with anything other than the crows at the Beaconsfield landfill. They dont eat barbel either so I'm a big fan ! Hardly ever see a mink nowadays. Trapped or shot I guess and that would leave more room for otters.Ferocious devils mink...not sure how they'd fare against an otter though...they're bigger than a lot of people think and if al you've ever seen are the Asian Short clawed Otters [every wildlife park & zoo in the known Universe] then you'd be surprised at the size of a full grown "proper" otter.
chav professor on 21/07/2012 07:15:24
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I would have otters over mink any day!!
amushroom on 21/07/2012 07:44:11
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dont blame the otter, blame the water companies, if they, the water companies didn't destroy so many fish, then populations of otters and other species would have loads to eat, and our quarry would be more plentiful the simple first fix for most of our aquatic problems, should be getting water companies to change their behaviour, instead we treat the ill effects of the water companies behaviour with sticking plasters, thereby alienating our sport even further from the non-angling public in my neck of the woods, the thames, local naturalists are asked to sponsor an otter holt, they are installed on many of the islands just in case a visiting otter needs somewhere to stay, having taken the roof of one, only to inspect for habitation/use you see, I can compliment their constructor on the strength of the construction, and the persons who located it, for the way it would be missed by all but the most diligent of searching individuals in an ideal world we should be welcoming a greater variety of flora and fauna, as a sign that the environment is improving, sadly most new arrivals are unable to exploit a newly created niche, instead they compete/replace what is already there
bennygesserit on 21/07/2012 08:27:01
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dont blame the otter, blame the water companies, if they, the water companies didn't destroy so many fish, then populations of otters and other species would have loads to eat, and our quarry would be more plentiful the simple first fix for most of our aquatic problems, should be getting water companies to change their behaviour, instead we treat the ill effects of the water companies behaviour with sticking plasters, thereby alienating our sport even further from the non-angling public in my neck of the woods, the thames, local naturalists are asked to sponsor an otter holt, they are installed on many of the islands just in case a visiting otter needs somewhere to stay, having taken the roof of one, only to inspect for habitation/use you see, I can compliment their constructor on the strength of the construction, and the persons who located it, for the way it would be missed by all but the most diligent of searching individuals in an ideal world we should be welcoming a greater variety of flora and fauna, as a sign that the environment is improving, sadly most new arrivals are unable to exploit a newly created niche, instead they compete/replace what is already there Spot on about sticking plasters and the otter , which had been here for thousands of years being a great indicator of the health of the river ecology. But aren't the rivers healthier than they were in the sixties which is when I last fished them. Is abstarction coupled with climate variation highlighting the level of abstraction , someone has allowed the bank to be overdrawn as it were in terms of water especially on the kennet ? The signal cray seems to present a vastly more insidious threat than the otter. Predators achieve balance with their prey , I know you have all heard this before . But when you are weeding your garden what you are actually getting rid of are naturalised British plants , invasive species excepted , i.e. something which fits into British ecology just like the otter does,
stu_the_blank on 21/07/2012 13:23:29
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But when you are weeding your garden what you are actually getting rid of are naturalised British plants Ben, music to my ears, just spent the morning pulling weeds, if only I had read this earlier. Whether I can convince the trouble and strife that brambles and nettles are the way God intended is another matter! ---------- Post added at 06:23 ---------- Previous post was at 06:15 ---------- Predators achieve balance with their prey , I know you have all heard this before .That is true, it's really a question of what happens in the meantime and where do you want the balance to be struck. If you are interested, read The Otter by Williams. Son of an otter huntsman who became a naturalist and part of the campaign to re-introduce the otter. Very balanced book.
mark brailsford 2 on 21/07/2012 17:38:41
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OH DEAR, yet another damming article on Otters! Just leave the poor animals alone, has I have said before, they were here long before us. Yes I do not believe in releasing captive bread animals back in to the wild but has anybody got proof of this? I think not, Its just another ploy to save the rich boy's Salmon fishing...AGAIN!!
john m h on 21/07/2012 20:51:52
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OH DEAR, yet another damming article on Otters! Just leave the poor animals alone, has I have said before, they were here long before us. Yes I do not believe in releasing captive bread animals back in to the wild but has anybody got proof of this? I think not, Its just another ploy to save the rich boy's Salmon fishing...AGAIN!! I think not, the evidence against otters is conclusive. If not can someone explain why there were not the vast numbers of dead and part eaten fish before the otter reintroduction project? Please read Death of the Wensum All I can add is please respond to Will's earlier plea and advice, and join The Angling Trust. For those in the North East there are two further AT/EA meetings (further, as the Tyne/Newcastle meeting was over subscribed) next week, Durham 25th July and Darlington 26th July. These are to establish and promote the new Angling Trust - Environment Agency Fisheries Forum Development Groups. More info HERE
bennygesserit on 21/07/2012 21:37:05
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I think not, the evidence against otters is conclusive. If not can someone explain why there were not the vast numbers of dead and part eaten fish before the otter reintroduction project? Please read Death of the Wensum All I can add is please respond to Will's earlier plea and advice, and join The Angling Trust. For those in the North East there are two further AT/EA meetings (further, as the Tyne/Newcastle meeting was over subscribed) next week, Durham 25th July and Darlington 26th July. These are to establish and promote the new Angling Trust - Environment Agency Fisheries Forum Development Groups. More info HERE John I am still reading your link but it seems to bemoan the impact on barbel in those rivers while also admitting that they are a stocked fish - have I read that correctly ? My personal view is that the otter has been an intrinsic part of the eco-system for many many years , its a native British predator so we should allow it to flourish. Now I do not fish rivers and I know some take this problem very seriously and personally , and I have read many many otter threads on many forums and I often wish that someone would at least say something different on them. So my own personal view is that I would rather have people working towards a naturalised eco-system , fish passes ,SSSI's , pursuit of polluters , study of river ecology etc and I would rather see otters on a river than stocked fat barbel. Just my opinion - of course , I have seen these threads develop into silly arguments but I would say that I am open minded and prepared to try and understand others points of view but more importantly uncover the truth.
geoffmaynard on 21/07/2012 21:38:12
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Another excellent article Rod. Thank you. You get my vote every time you write an article - you say exactly what needs to be said. As for Bennys comment "But aren't the rivers healthier than they were in the sixties which is when I last fished them. " No mate. They are not. Not by a million miles. Don't let this lie spread any further. Not by the death of the Thames which was then a fish per cast with 100lb match wins at Richmond; or the Dorset Stour where I saw my first salmon leap over my rod - now devoid of them. Or the Hampshire Avon which was then an angling Mecca and is now existing on it's memories. Or the Lea with it's fantastic fishing in both canal and backstream, now nothing in comparison. Or just look at the nationwide decline of salmon and eels. For proof just dig out some old Angling Times or Anglers Mails of the period and that will tell you all you need to know. The rivers of today may be 'cleaner' but they are certainly not better fisheries than they were in the 60s.
bennygesserit on 21/07/2012 21:49:19
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Another excellent article Rod. Thank you. You get my vote every time you write an article - you say exactly what needs to be said. As for Bennys comment "But aren't the rivers healthier than they were in the sixties which is when I last fished them. " No mate. They are not. Not by a million miles. Don't let this lie spread any further. Not by the death of the Thames which was then a fish per cast with 100lb match wins at Richmond; or the Dorset Stour where I saw my first salmon leap over my rod - now devoid of them. Or the Hampshire Avon which was then an angling Mecca and is now existing on it's memories. Or the Lea with it's fantastic fishing in both canal and backstream, now nothing in comparison. Or just look at the nationwide decline of salmon and eels. For proof just dig out some old Angling Times or Anglers Mails of the period and that will tell you all you need to know. The rivers of today may be 'cleaner' but they are certainly not better fisheries than they were in the 60s. Geoff do you think that its otter predation that has caused this enormous decline in fish stocks then ? ---------- Post added at 22:49 ---------- Previous post was at 22:40 ---------- I think not, the evidence against otters is conclusive. If not can someone explain why there were not the vast numbers of dead and part eaten fish before the otter reintroduction project? Please read Death of the Wensum All I can add is please respond to Will's earlier plea and advice, and join The Angling Trust. For those in the North East there are two further AT/EA meetings (further, as the Tyne/Newcastle meeting was over subscribed) next week, Durham 25th July and Darlington 26th July. These are to establish and promote the new Angling Trust - Environment Agency Fisheries Forum Development Groups. More info HERE you also have to ask whether there were numerous carcasses before the otters decline.
chub_on_the_block on 21/07/2012 22:24:37
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My view is that cormorants are causing as much, if not more damage than otters. There is a lake i have fished where Rudd and Roach are now apparently completely absent, whilst 80 or more cormorants were seen over recent winters on particular days. The case with otters is more around loss of trophy fish of particular species, whereas cormorants can fundamentally change the ecology and type of fish community. I find it hard to understand what perch and pike can eat in waters ravaged by cormorants..signal crayfish probably. Are the rivers cleaner question - in general I think they are much cleaner now than in the 60s (or 70s when i first fished any). They were just as clean back in the late 90s also, when fish stocks were generally better than now - as this was before otters, crayfish and cormorants to a large extent. As for the Thames, i think i saw a recent match result at Kingston where 30Ib of bream was needed to get in the frame - now thats not too bad even in a historical context, but i bet it would be a struggle getting 10-30Ib of roach in a winter session as was once possible if you knew where to go. What is worse now is abstraction and droughts.
john m h on 21/07/2012 23:01:57
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Geoff do you think that its otter predation that has caused this enormous decline in fish stocks then ? you also have to ask whether there were numerous carcasses before the otters decline So my own personal view is that I would rather have people working towards a naturalised eco-system , fish passes ,SSSI's , pursuit of polluters , study of river ecology etc and I would rather see otters on a river than stocked fat barbel ---------- Post added at 22:49 ---------- Previous post was at 22:40 ---------- . Pre the otter decline; did I not refer to that? And your other point, just what do you think the NACA have been doing since the late 70's? Just one battle after another; first abstraction, then otters
geoffmaynard on 22/07/2012 00:08:39
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Benny: The water authorities and the cormorants and signal crayfish and hydro and the otters are all pellets from the same shotgun. We have to address all of them, not just our favourite ones. So - this article and thread is about otters. Rod has addressed other problems in other articles. Check 'em out.
mark brailsford 2 on 22/07/2012 07:14:05
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John I am still reading your link but it seems to bemoan the impact on barbel in those rivers while also admitting that they are a stocked fish - have I read that correctly ? My personal view is that the otter has been an intrinsic part of the eco-system for many many years , its a native British predator so we should allow it to flourish. Now I do not fish rivers and I know some take this problem very seriously and personally , and I have read many many otter threads on many forums and I often wish that someone would at least say something different on them. So my own personal view is that I would rather have people working towards a naturalised eco-system , fish passes ,SSSI's , pursuit of polluters , study of river ecology etc and I would rather see otters on a river than stocked fat barbel. Just my opinion - of course , I have seen these threads develop into silly arguments but I would say that I am open minded and prepared to try and understand others points of view but more importantly uncover the truth. Hi Benny, Stocking large fish in Shallow rivers is giving Otters the Chance of a very easy meal especially when their natural food (the eel) is in decline! Just look at the folk that are complaining about these predators, the syndicate men, the rich game anglers and ''higher than mighty'' Barbel boys who think they own the rivers! Do these people not realise why, all of a sudden, they are finding dead fish all over the place, Yes, its because they have stocked barbel in waters that never contained them years ago when the Otters last flourished in this country (and yes, it was the rich land owners that nearly wiped them out back then!) So, is it ok to (over) stock Barbel in Rivers but not rebuild our eco-system by re-introducing out natural predators (and I don't mean by releasing ''tame'' Otters, that is just another slur by the anti mob!) hypocrites at work me thinks! Ho, one more thing, the reason you never see an Otter with a chub is because they don't like the taste! Simples ;) ---------- Post added at 07:14 ---------- Previous post was at 07:05 ---------- Benny: The water authorities and the cormorants and signal crayfish and hydro and the otters are all pellets from the same shotgun. We have to address all of them, not just our favourite ones. So - this article and thread is about otters. Rod has addressed other problems in other articles. Check 'em out. Geoff, The Cormorants only came in land for the easy pickings offered by the (over) stocked fisheries because we, yes we, decimated our salt water fisheries, and you know what Geoff it all boils down to two things GREED AND MONEY! its not the Birds fault.
bennygesserit on 22/07/2012 08:26:15
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Benny: The water authorities and the cormorants and signal crayfish and hydro and the otters are all pellets from the same shotgun. We have to address all of them, not just our favourite ones. So - this article and thread is about otters. Rod has addressed other problems in other articles. Check 'em out. Geoff That is a fundamental difference you and I have , I would place otters being part of Britains natural eco-system as part of the target rather than one of the bullets.
mark brailsford 2 on 22/07/2012 09:15:36
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Geoff That is a fundamental difference you and I have , I would place otters being part of Britains natural eco-system as part of the target rather than one of the bullets. Well said mate ;)
The bad one on 23/07/2012 01:14:46
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What erroneous rubbish that article is! It's fundamental flaw is there from the very start. The idealists and extremists of the environmental brigade have been actively releasing tame, hand-reared specimens into the wild. No they haven't! Had the author done even the most cursory research he'd have discovered that in total a 117 otters were bread and released Nationally between 1980 and 2000 by the otter trusts. The increase in numbers is now down to recolonisation from the prodigy of those releases and the natural reservoir population which was increasing slowly anyway. Eels are not the favoured food of otters, they feed on whatever is most abundant in the territory they live in. All rehabilitated otters about 30 per year, are put back into the area they were found in when taken into care. Clandestine breeding and releases often quoted but not one shred of evidence has ever been provided by anybody spouting such garbage. Oh but it's clandestine so we'd never know it was happening, get real! It took the OTs 20 years to breed 117 animals with all their accumulated knowledge of breeding techniques. To suggest some beardy weirdy breeding them in their garden shed out of site of his neighbours, fiends, is about as credible as as the moon is made of green cheese! We can continue to look for scapegoats for the loss of fish stocks in rivers, but sooner or later the true facts of where the problem is on some rivers will have to be faced and that is the degradation through our actions and way we live our lives. So next time you flush the bog, wash the car, tip washing up water down the sink, pour oil down the drain, use products with chemicals in it, ask yourself where is all this going to end up and what's the impact it's going to have by its use and disposal. All of the above degrades the rivers from sustainable ecosystems to broken systems and scapegoats.
james on 23/07/2012 10:08:01
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Well said 'bad one'. There is far too much speculation about 'illegal introductions', it's complete tosh. Unfortunately, lots of folk seem to prefer to entertain conspiracy theories rather than base opinion on fact.
Jeff Woodhouse on 23/07/2012 10:59:18
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pour oil down the drainNeh, neh, Phil - that IS illegal. Wouldn't even think of disagreeing with the rest of it... Just glad we don't see as many mink these days.
geoffmaynard on 23/07/2012 16:52:21
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The idealists and extremists of the environmental brigade have been actively releasing tame, hand-reared specimens into the wild. No they haven't! Had the author done even the most cursory research he'd have discovered that in total a 117 otters were bread and released Nationally between 1980 and 2000 by the otter trusts. Make your mind up! :)) I agree with you about eels as preferred food though. There's lots of poorly researched received wisdom spouted about otters, as much from the Otter Trust as anywhere else.
mark brailsford 2 on 23/07/2012 20:31:20
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The idealists and extremists of the environmental brigade have been actively releasing tame, hand-reared specimens into the wild. No they haven't! Be carefull what you say about this mate, I have already been ripped to shreds about this ;) It just reminds me of those allegations that the huntsmen received from the anti mob concerning the release of captive bred foxes so they could hunt them!!!!
The bad one on 24/07/2012 00:16:52
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No need to make my mind up Geoff, the protocols for raising animals for release into the wild are very clear and long established. Human contact is kept to the absolute minimum to stop precisely what the author accuses them of being. Mark if you bend and distort the truth for long enough and loud enough when scapegoating, it has a tendency to be believed as fact.
Fred Bonney on 24/07/2012 05:18:43
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Mark if you bend and distort the truth for long enough and loud enough when scapegoating, it has a tendency to be believed as fact. Hear, hear,and this is why I have been banging on and giving an alternative view to the hysteria purveyed by some. What should be accepted is that you can't put a fish in a river system that's never historically supported them, and then scream that they are being eaten by a creature that has historically always been in that river system.
geoffmaynard on 24/07/2012 16:46:58
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No need to make my mind up Geoff, the protocols for raising animals for release into the wild are very clear and long established. Human contact is kept to the absolute minimum to stop precisely what the author accuses them of being. I know. I was only playing. However when I joined the OT back in 1974(?) and visited Bungay(?), the animals there then were clearly unafraid of humans. I guess they had no option being surrounded by mans scent all day. They were being fed sprats that day and the handlers had obviously built relationships with them. Maybe that all changed in later years.
mark brailsford 2 on 24/07/2012 16:58:42
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Mark if you bend and distort the truth for long enough and loud enough when scapegoating, it has a tendency to be believed as fact. Hear, hear,and this is why I have been banging on and giving an alternative view to the hysteria purveyed by some. What should be accepted is that you can't put a fish in a river system that's never historically supported them, and then scream that they are being eaten by a creature that has historically always been in that river system. Good on ya Fred, well said ;) The RSPCA have a policy of releasing urban foxes into the wild which ultimately starve to death because they don't know how to hunt...AND folk do not believe me when I tell them this, they would sooner believe the fox hunting story. I wonder why!!


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