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Krilled Maggots - The Roy Marlow Podcast Part Three

By FishingMagic 06/10/2011 21:14:00

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Krill - one of the most successful bait additives during the past 12 months.

Ian Welch and Roy Marlow talk about the use of krill and krilled maggots in the third part of this exclusive podcast series.

During the past year one technique more than any other has really captured the imagination of match and specialist anglers alike - krilled maggots.

Roy Marlow One of the deadliest of secrets on the commercial match circuit during 2010 word finally leaked out (as it always does) and the method started to be adopted by increasing numbers of anglers and it really hit the scene this year with numbers of catches reported on the technique.

It wasn't just the match lads who benefitted from the method though, big fish anglers soon cottoned onto the fact the soft, flavour-filled grubs were superb for larger carp too and the specialists used them with great success for big tench, bream and barbel.

In the third part of the Roy Marlow podcast Ian Welch asks Roy about krilling, why the method is so successful and how to get the best from it.

This podcast should start automatically or, to listen to Roy and Welchy in conversation, use the audio player to the right of this page. The running time is 9 minutes 33 seconds.

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Comments (25 posted):

sagalout on 07/10/2011 14:28:37

Has anybody on here used this krill additive? If so, what do you think of it? I ask because I always fall for the snake oil patter, but have never found one that made any difference.

Frank Elson on 07/10/2011 18:21:59

well at least you are able to call it snake oil :-)

Peter Jacobs on 08/10/2011 08:55:50

I used it with some success last week in a match. I would have used the liquid additive too but groundbait was not allowed at the venue. I'll be trying that out though in the next couple of weeks and I'll let you know. I am a firm believer in additives, both liquid and powder, and certainly wouldn't go Bream fishing without Brasem.

clint4782 on 08/10/2011 09:47:43

I've used it as well and it's good stuff......worked for me anyway, loads of quality roach and bream seemed to like it to. I wrote this last year for a website; KRILLED MAGGOTS are winning matches across the UK and beyond; maggots are often seen as backup bait by many match anglers, but, by using Marukyu SFA 400 products to boost your baits, then you can take your matches apart too! What makes it so effective? KRILL are tiny marine crustaceans, present in vast numbers in colder oceans. With a distinctive smell and pink colouration, krill are known to be potent carp catchers when used in a wide variety of baits, and will also help catch other species of coarse fish. Krill meal is extremely attractive to fish as a result of the massive range of proteins, amino acids, minerals, oils and vitamins it contains which draw fish from huge distances. Marukyu scientists have analysed many sources of krill to create a unique blend which guarantees consistent quality for the discerning angler. So how can SFA 400 be used? With maggots, ask your supplier to provide your maggots without maize, and then put them in a plastic bag. Twist the top of the bag to expel any air and tie a knot in it to stop air re-entering. Placing the bag in the fridge overnight will cause the maggots to stretch and become soft. Adding a handful of SFA 400 KRILL powder to a couple of pints of maggots will provide plenty of coverage for the baits. Once this step has been completed, then freeze the maggots for a minimum of 48 hours to allow them to absorb the KRILL. The maggots are now ready to add to your ground bait (ideally Marukyu EPG131) to form a devastating 50:50 mix. Brilliant! The highly soluble attractors alter the chemical composition of the skin of the maggots making them exceptionally appealing to passing fish, and because they have been frozen, they lay still on the lake bed and won't crawl away or disappear into bottom debris. SFA 400 KRILLED maggots, can be used in PVA sticks or bags, as part of a spod mix or within a feeder sandwich between ground bait plugs. The only limit is your imagination! Also available as part of the Marukyu range, SFA 410 LIQUID KRILL is a fantastic new additive which is produced via an exclusive fermentation process which massively increases the amount of free amino acids released into the water around your hook baits. The PVA friendly liquid does not deteriorate at room temperature, and works well in the coldest of water, meaning you can add to your bait mixes all season. Look out for more new products ready to hit the shops in December 2010, with even more in 2011. Marukyu use up to 57 ingredients in some individual baits, all of which are '...formulated with science and designed with care' to keep you catching. For more details of MARUKYU products, visit their website www.marukyu.co.uk Hope it helps; if I'm honest, I've not used it since I ran out, but only because I now use something similar from another company which isn't yet available to buy, otherwise I would!

sagalout on 08/10/2011 16:20:17

Thanks for the responses. Clint, you should get a job at Marukyu writing their advertorials. Well I bought some of the liquid, SFA 410, on me way 'ome today, so I will try it out tomorrow and report back. Couldn't get the powder so that will have to wait. Today's top tip - don't open it in the house. I am still able to type because Mrs Lout is away. I now have all the windows open and hope it clears by the time she returns :( If I don't report back you'll know it didn't.

clint4782 on 08/10/2011 16:25:47

I had a few bits kindly sent over by Roy and put them to good use.

bails on 08/10/2011 20:14:36

I've made a few posts about the Marukyu range on this web site. I have had the best summer ever fishing after only hearing about the Marukyu range. It's recaptured my enthusiasm in fishing. Te key to the Marukyu range is understanding the range of baits, how to use them and when to use them. Also what complements what. I have spent quite a bit of time studying and understanding this, probaly much like Clint. There is a web site about to be launched focusing on just this (the what, when, how etc) which will sell the whole Marukyu range with next day delivery. No more of only being able to get hold of half of the stuff you need.:)

sagalout on 09/10/2011 15:37:46

I used the SA 410 liquid today. I soaked frozen maggots in it as they defrosted over night, I added a good glug to the lake water used to wet me method mix and micro pellets. As far as I can tell, apart from making me smell like the fishmongers daughter's, it didn't make a ha'p'orth of difference. I will try it again, well I will keep trying till the bottle is empty, and report my findings.

Jeff Woodhouse on 09/10/2011 17:18:25

As far as I can tell, apart from making me smell like the fishmongers daughter's, it didn't make a ha'p'orth of difference. Hang around her a lot do you Saga? ;):rolleyes: questions:

where were you fishing, stocked lake or natural?
are there big bream in there?
did you catch anything?

sagalout on 09/10/2011 18:15:06

1. Stocked club snake lake. 2. No, skimmers to 2 or 3lb, best I have caught is about a 1lb. 3. I landed 3 carp and lost 2 (one hook pull and one me daiwa hydro laccy snapped, a very expensive day :mad:), couple of skimmers, small roach and tiny perch. Me hands still stink after 4 washes and a shower :o.

Jeff Woodhouse on 09/10/2011 19:01:02

You caught then, so not bad. Try tomato ketchup. They swear by it in USA for removing skunk stink. Honest!

sagalout on 10/10/2011 05:30:18

You caught then, so not badI was happy with the day, because the club waters aren't fishing well at the mo, but my point is I think I would have caught just as well without the krill, in fact this was the worst day I have had for months. Now, I ain't saying the krill made it worse, I just don't think it helped.

clint4782 on 10/10/2011 06:50:41

I've found with Marukyu products (and I think Roy would agree) that it takes a bit of time to get used to combining products to get them to work effectively. Although the products are also designed to work 'stand alone', better results can often be obtained by thoughtful application over a period of time. The baits are like nothing else currently available in UK, so understandably, in this 'no change for me' culture, they can take some time to get used to. I've found that it will blow everything out of the water on some venues, but not quite as good on others. I have an idea that it may come down to bio-mass, whether lots of different baits go in, angling pressure and who knows what else!? The Marukyu web pages make interesting reading, they have over 600 ingredients available for their baits! Don't base your opinion on one session, next time may be different! It's an interesting company with some good ideas, and if you get chance to speak to one of their bait gurus, be prepared to be surprised!

clint4782 on 10/10/2011 12:50:14

A little bit of input from Roy Marlow himself; Thanks for this. Please inform the forum users that the liquid SFA 410 is not made to make krilled maggots, like he said it don't half smell! SFA 400 has been scientifically designed to be absorbed into the maggots, SFA 410 is a totally different product. This is the link for krilled maggots http://www.marukyu.co.uk/images/stories/pdf/marukyukrill.pdf I receive hundreds of reports confirming the effectiveness of krilled maggots and have won several matches over the last few months with them. We are in difficult fishing period and one days fishing when you understand the science does not give you a true indication of the product. Call in and see us at T&G and you will be the first to see and hear about our new products. Regards, Clint

sagalout on 11/10/2011 05:30:10

Thanks for the responses. I understand that the SFA 410 does not make "krilled maggots", but I used it as a groundbait additive as well, also in one of Roy's videos he expounds 410 (at least I thought it was 410) as a way of flavouring skinned baits like sweetcorn, so I assumed it would flavour dead maggots. I have already stated that I would try it again but I doubt that I will go the krilled maggot route, our club waters have large amounts of fry which on a normal day make maggots a useless bait.

clint4782 on 11/10/2011 06:51:34

I don't think it's a dig by Roy, more the fact that the Marukyu product line is a complicated beast! As far as I can tell, Marukyu is extremely specific with the science which may not always translate to the angler very well.....having used the products, I'm still confused by the numbering system and the way things fit together; perhaps it's just me??!

sagalout on 13/10/2011 16:28:54

I tried the SFA 410 again yesterday. In the interests of fairness, I fished a heavily stocked club water (carp [mainly 2-4lb], tench [mainly 1-3lb], skimmers [mainly less than a lb], roach and rudd). On the pole I feed one line with hemp and aniseed parti mix, and another line with micro pellets flavoured with the 410. Both lines fished the same, very well when the fish were feeding and nothing when they weren't. On the feeder I fished half the day with plain pellets and half he day with 410 flavoured pellets, same results as the pole.

Jeff Woodhouse on 13/10/2011 17:05:17

I'm still confused by the numbering system Same here and they, Roy himself actually, explained it to me. As far as I can remember the 41 is the bait flavour and the 0 on the end is the size of the powder, so 0 = very fine, 1=fine and 2=medium. The SFA, is an Additive (although for all I know it might mean Sweet Fanny Adams). :D So, what you're saying Mr Lout is, it made not a jot of difference? I'll be honest, reading up some old books and articles from the 60s and despite the great steps forward in bait manufacture catches are probably about the same in terms of numbers caught, allowing for the slightly larger fish we seem to have these days.

sagalout on 13/10/2011 17:58:55

So, what you're saying Mr Lout is, it made not a jot of difference?That is it in a nutshell, now I ain't picking on Marukyu, as stated in my first post I have tried several additives over the last couple of years, all with no effect. See if I can list some : Grub Juice (as recommended by no lesser an angler than Lord Paul) CSL with added tutti fruiti Pineapple juice Mollasses Pellet oil Predator Plus Liquid worm Liquidised sweetcorn Liquidised maize and probaly some others I can't remember.

bails on 21/10/2011 18:30:05

Love the Marukyu range or not, the web site that sells ready made Krilled maggots is meant to go live this Monday Happy days, no more grief from the Mrs for trying to hide them in the freezer!

bails on 26/10/2011 15:16:23

The Krilled maggots site I mentioned is up, the site is packed with information on the whole Marulyu range, with a fishing guides section with videos and articles on Marukyu and a Bait wizard which ask for you fishing conditions and then works out the right package for your day. Either way, the Krilled Maggots are ready made, as is the hemp and you can get the rest of the Marukyu range. Everything is next day delivery and their delivery costs do seem quite cheap.. No doubt some of you will tell me I've been suckered in, but it works for me... Fishing Baits - official UK distributor for Marukyu fishing baits and Marukyu JPz jelly pellets Or 1 Pint Krilled Maggots for the Krilled maggots

Sean Meeghan on 26/10/2011 21:15:17

Well I visited the site and used the bait wizard. Seemed a bit carp biased in his responses. It recommended a selection of baits with a total price of around £78. I was then treated to some pseudo scientific nonsense (for example apparently the flavour molecules in this stuff are very small - really?). So do I throw all this stuff in when I next go fishing? Might make for an expensive day out!

bails on 27/10/2011 06:14:34

Ouch. I though they'd made quite an effort instead of trying to just sell you stuff. Did you read the news section? On how they develop the bait? Fishing Bait Shop | Tips for great fishing

sagalout on 27/10/2011 07:33:37

Blimey that "fishing bait wizard" is brilliant, it can even detect that I am poorer than Sean and only wants £29 from me.

bails on 02/11/2011 19:19:57

Superb day today on the pole using Krilled maggots and EFG130. Loads and loads of bream of 1-2lb each, crucians moving in and out at regular intervals and a few common carp of 4-5lb Not as good as summer, but a nice day out.

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