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Review - Andrew Field Floats

Christian (aka Chav Professor) sings the praise this month of some floats he bought and what floats they are too.

The fisherman and his floats.

We all go fishing for different reasons and choose to fish in our own distinct way. However, I feel we are united with a passion for living water and the atmospheric places where anglers are lucky enough to find themselves.

It could be those early summer dawns, mist rising gently from a favourite river or lake, lifting as if wraith-like sentinels. Maybe the satisfaction that if we tread carefully, we can merge gently between the seams of reality and a world indifferent to the stresses of everyday life. I am proud to be a fisherman and often contemplate how mere mortals can pass through this world only experiencing the physics and certainty of a real world.

As we also have to exist in the ‘real’ world I think there is almost a compulsion within the angler to collect and harbour the accoutrements required to take us closer to our pastime. It helps us pass the time, like treading water between fishing trips. For me it is floats; like a child drawn to sweets, I rarely leave a tackle shop without a few sticks, wagglers or chubber floats. I know its obsessive, but I don’t care – I must have hundreds.

I suspect Andrew’s inspiration for using feathers
harks back to the stunninglybeautiful hand tied Salmon
and Trout flies in rare and exotic feather

More and more I am finding that the float has become a central part of my fishing pleasure. In a way I am not surprised! I have always loved the way that a float connects effortlessly between our earthly existence and the watery realm below. On many occasions I have felt that the presence of a float tip resting on the surface draws deeply on my inner conscience, focussing time and space into a singular point where anything real and tangible fails to exist – almost an inner Zen!

Andrew Field floats.

Andrew is very much a rising star in the artisan world of the traditional float maker. His style is very distinctive and most of his designs feature feathers sourced from old fly tier’s kits; the effects achieved are nothing short of breathtaking!

I came across Andrew Field’s web site through a FishingMagic forum post and felt it appropriate to produce a product review to share my experiences of commissioning a float order.  Andrew’s website is laid out with stunning photographs showing examples of commissioned work to date, which is, as I found out, is updated regularly.

My first order comprised a chubber, fluted Avon (inlaid with kingfisher feathers) and a plainer Avon float. Simply cutting and pasting the images from the blogs and a quick email, I was able to communicate the type and style of floats I wished to order. Communication was excellent; I received an email pretty much straight way clarifying some of the finer details and a further email to inform me that my order was to be started right away!

'It’s a big float with a lot of varnish to cover the gold
leaf bar to the front.  But it is an incredible float.'

The lead time for floats is typically three weeks, but it is not unreasonable to expect a little leeway due to order volume. In fact my first commission from ordering to the floats being dispatched was well within the three weeks. The floats were delivered in a protective tube, Royal Mail next day, special delivery. The complete process was flawless. So impressed, I made a further order that included some insert wagglers and one of Andrew’s stunning pike Gazette floats.

The first thing people mention when they cast an admiring glance over Andrew’s floats is the rich, almost glass like gloss varnish finish. The feathers just effortlessly rest against the float body and remarkably do not affect the final finish. The varnish is nearly completely clear with no yellowing which allows the vibrant colours to really stand out. What is equally remarkable is that this stunning finish is achieved in merely 2 to 3 coats, essential so as not to affect the performance of the float. I think it is fair to say that each individual float is a standalone piece of art, unique – yet truly functional.

Andrew can produce just about any type of float in any size, Avons, fluted Avons, wagglers, Insert wagglers, darts, chubbers, perch bobs, Gazette floats, Dennis Pye  dumbbell floats, crow Avons, swan quills, goose quills and most bodied floats from cork or balsa on wood or cane stems with a selection of tip colours. The whipping on the floats is perfectly finished using finest quality silk; balsa and cork bodies are of the finest quality to ensure efficient buoyancy and good shotting capacity – the cork on my chubber and Avon floats is nearly flawless.

Of course floats can be created without the feathers; I remember on the thread that this was seen as a little fussy by some posters to the forum. This is a fair point as this style may not appeal to everyone. I personally feel the presence of a feather or two adorning my coarse fishing tackle is appropriate to my taste and suspect Andrew’s inspiration for using them harks back to the stunningly beautiful hand tied Salmon and Trout flies in rare and exotic feather.

110504andrew_field_floats_033_859626398.jpgPrices range from £7.50 for small chubbers and insert wagglers, but the Gazette float is a bit more expensive at £20.  It’s a big float with a lot of paint; the finish is very deep and needs to have several coats of varnish to cover the gold leaf bar to the front.  But it is an incredible float. Now this is a lot of money for floats that could potentially end up half way up an alder, or tethered to some far bank reeds. But in terms of the hours of craftsmanship and almost obsessive level of detail and thought that goes into each masterpiece they offer a truly unique and affordable investment! Indeed, I was in two minds whether to actually fish with mine, as they look tremendous in a display cabinet.
 
Andrew Field can be contacted on andymx2@hotmail.co.uk or call 07899996190 to discuss your requirements. If you wish to dream or drool, the website address is http://handmadefloats.blogspot.com/.

Christian Barker







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Comments (37 posted):

Peter Jacobs on 05/05/2011 06:13:23
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Nice write-up on Andrew's excellent floats. I've had mine for about a year now and I think they compliment perfectly a split cane and centrepin combination out on the river. I also bought a good selection of Andrew's excellent stillwater floats that just look and perform beautifully. At a recent gathering at my home for the annual end of season dinner and fishing weekend those floats, and the float box from Andrew, certainly got a lot of attention from some highly experienced anglers. The only disadvantage I can see now is that after the thread and this article that any new orders from me will probably take longer than the previous 3 to 4 weeks, but then, that is great for Andrew as he puts so much time, effort and I might even say love, into his floats.
chav professor on 05/05/2011 08:41:07
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They do fish really well. I am having great fun with the insert wagglers at the moment. They fish really well and are a joy to use. Thought i had better mention, the kingfisher feathers were sourced from a very old and tired pair of cased Kingfishers - stuffed!! Better add that in case anyone wonders were the feathers came from.
the indifferent crucian on 05/05/2011 10:47:57
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I had wondered about the feathers..he sure does use a lot!!!! It was Andrew's work that decided me to try and 'up' my game with float making. I was perfectly happy with my own work....until I saw his! So I set to and made some more for their appearance than anything else. I wish I knew how he achieves that finish! I took 22 coats of varnish to get something like that and the floats don't work as well as earlier versions because of the weight of all that varnish. I have been told about water-based two-pack varnishes, but they are rather expensive...anyone tried them?
Jeff Woodhouse on 05/05/2011 11:07:13
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the kingfisher feathers were sourced from a very old and tired pair of cased Kingfishers - stuffed!! Better add that in case anyone wonders were the feathers came from.There was me thinking he'd found a bird with alopecia. :doh: I wish I knew how he achieves that finish!I think Andy said he'd developed his own varnish and most of the time it only takes two coats.
S-Kippy on 05/05/2011 17:44:49
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They are nice floats...but I'm afraid I just dont get the feather thing. To me it says "Claire's Accesories" or the Poundland jewellery bin. Not for me I'm afraid. I'd rather have the cased kingfishers.
chav professor on 06/05/2011 06:43:03
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your right S-Kippy, they are nice floats. You know, I was in two minds when writing this wether to say ' some posters found the feathers a little fussy' or use the alternative turn of phrase 'a bit Claires Accesories' - but POUNDLAND JEWELERY BIN - Tiffany or Cartier thankyou very much!!;) Hand on heart, I actually had you in mind when I wrote that line - your input here was very appropriate! lol
S-Kippy on 06/05/2011 19:45:53
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Cartier or Tiffany...more like Argos or Ratners in my book.To me the feathers actually make a beautifully made float look a bit trashy which is why I will never buy any. Just a bit too Heston Blumenthal for my taste. But that's just me. I dont do flash.
Ray Daywalker Clarke on 06/05/2011 20:22:29
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But that's just me. I dont do flash. You couldnt do flash, have you looked at yourself .........:D:omg::doh::D Floats are for catching fish IMO, these floats are very well made, but not what i would use, thats just me. I make some of my own floats, nothing as good as these, at the end of the day the only part of the float you see is the tip, and if the fishing is good, you dont see that at times.....:D Great to see that there are still some great float makers out there, one day, maybe one day, i might have a change of mind.
S-Kippy on 06/05/2011 20:36:01
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Ha ha ha...I very nearly said "I dont do flash...as Ray will happily confirm" Anyway...I dont care because I'm a trout angler today. Just got back after a splendid day bagging up on Farmoor and not a lure in sight.
Jeff Woodhouse on 06/05/2011 20:45:38
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at the end of the day the only part of the float you see is the tip, and if the fishing is good, you dont see that at times....Best comment yet!!! What suits some won't suit others. That's the order of things and just as well. I dont do flash. Would never be a Pearly King darn the East End then, eh?
S-Kippy on 06/05/2011 20:53:59
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East End ? Do me a favour...I'm an 'Ayes n 'Arlington boy. West Lundun innit !
Ray Roberts on 07/05/2011 03:58:12
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Well Christian, what you need to do is go to Poundland and pick up some matt black car paint and dull them down a bit, you know it makes sense. . . . . . But seriously, they truly are works of art. I feel they would spoil my chances, as I wouldn't fish them on less than 50lb braid. Nice write up and nice floats.
Jeff Woodhouse on 07/05/2011 10:12:56
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Crikey Ray, posted at " Today, 04:58", but for once I could have beaten you. Been up since about 3:30 with the thundering and rumbling, and that was just the wife's snoring, and wondered what to do with my time. I have some 80lbs braid if you do decide to buy some. :)
the indifferent crucian on 07/05/2011 10:47:12
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Hayes and Harlington. Good Lord, another one. Extraordinary how many anglers come from that area. There is another forum, The Secret Swim, on the Pure Piscator web-site, whose members, purely by co-incidence, nearly all come from that area. Did you ever fish the GUC near Ricky, or the Ruislip Lido, S-Kippy ?
Neneman Nick on 10/05/2011 18:55:54
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I own a few of andrews floats myself and yes they are indeed works of art but i`m not the sort of bloke who`s just gonna leave them in a box and not use them. I have fished with andrew on a couple of occasions,along with a good friend of mine who also owns some of his floats and have seen the floats in action and catching fish. I have also had the priviledge of being invited into andrews home and seeing how he makes his floats etc.... The process is a lengthy, painstaking one but andrew is keen as mustard and has a real passion and enthusiasm for what he does. He`s an artist,a perfectionist and it`s because of this that his floats etc....have been sold to people from far flung countries in the world. The feathers that are applied to the floats are a quality touch and to read comments that likens them to tat from ratners,argos claires accessories etc..... just beggars belief !!! I thought reviews were intended to give an honest,informed opinion for those who might choose to buy certain products,not a platform to critisize someones hard work and liken it to cheap tat !!!
S-Kippy on 10/05/2011 19:16:56
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Hayes and Harlington. Good Lord, another one. Extraordinary how many anglers come from that area. There is another forum, The Secret Swim, on the Pure Piscator web-site, whose members, purely by co-incidence, nearly all come from that area. Did you ever fish the GUC near Ricky, or the Ruislip Lido, S-Kippy ? Did I ? Not much ! I spent many years fishing the GUC and the Colne in and around the Denham,Uxbridge,Ricky area. When not there I would be on the Thames at Datchet/Windsor chubbing or somewhere on the Kennet after barbel or big roach. I rarely fished anywhere else. I fished the Lido from time to time too...that gave good sport if you caught it right. My favourite bit of the GUC was the stretch above Batchworth Lock. Fantastic punch fishing for roach and [before the days of commercials] plenty of carp. My best went 19-12 and that was in 1987. I used to fish little matches on there and though I say it myself I was pretty damn good on the punch. I loved the place. I remember fishing there one March 14th and having an unbelivable day. A netfull of roach,bream & chub on the punch and 3 carp to double figures. I guess I had nealy 60lb of fish which is not bad for a canal. Shining times but long since departed. You had to be on the Batchworth before dawn in winter to get a swim in its heighday.Nobody fishes it now. I still dont like those feathers by the way. Far too cheesy.
Ray Roberts on 10/05/2011 19:23:21
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I personally like the floats and I would bet they perform as well as they look. But one mans meat is another mans poison. If they don't appeal to someone elses taste then they are surely entitled to state their opinion.
S-Kippy on 10/05/2011 19:52:50
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I personally like the floats and I would bet they perform as well as they look. But one mans meat is another mans poison. If they don't appeal to someone elses taste then they are surely entitled to state their opinion. Quite so...and I was NOT and never have trashed the floats,all I ever said was that the feathers were not to my taste and in my opinion made beautifully crafted floats look cheesy. I can't help it...that's how I feel about them. I could say why but I choose not to. The Ratners thing was just a counter to Christians Tiffanys comment because I thought it was all starting to get terribly gushy & way OTT....again in my opinion. They are superbly made floats...but that's all they are. They wont catch you any more fish but if you get pleasure from owning and using then then I am delighted for you.... but they're just bloody floats.
Alan Tyler on 11/05/2011 07:38:45
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It really is just a matter of taste, and there's no right or wrong. When I first saw pictures of the floats with just one hackle-tip in as a "signature", I was bowled over. When I saw them with so much plumage they need a handful of Trill in their storage box, I was not so keen. But they were commissioned floats, and if the man doing the paying wants loadsa fevvers, that's his right. Me, I'm happy if I can get the ruddy varnish to stick for a season!
S-Kippy on 11/05/2011 08:55:50
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Ha ha ha...I'm not the only one then. A handful of Trill...quality !
barbelboi on 11/05/2011 09:47:52
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Did I ? Not much ! I spent many years fishing the GUC and the Colne in and around the Denham,Uxbridge,Ricky area. When not there I would be on the Thames at Datchet/Windsor chubbing or somewhere on the Kennet after barbel or big roach. I rarely fished anywhere else. I fished the Lido from time to time too...that gave good sport if you caught it right. My favourite bit of the GUC was the stretch above Batchworth Lock. Fantastic punch fishing for roach and [before the days of commercials] plenty of carp. My best went 19-12 and that was in 1987. I used to fish little matches on there and though I say it myself I was pretty damn good on the punch. I loved the place. I remember fishing there one March 14th and having an unbelivable day. A netfull of roach,bream & chub on the punch and 3 carp to double figures. I guess I had nealy 60lb of fish which is not bad for a canal. Shining times but long since departed. You had to be on the Batchworth before dawn in winter to get a swim in its heighday.Nobody fishes it now. I still dont like those feathers by the way. Far too cheesy. All of the above bring back memories. Born in Ruislip and used to fish the Lido during the late 50’s and 60’s each winter for pike and perch. (apart from the winter of 62-63 – remember turning up and seeing a landrover pulling skiers round the lake – canal not much better with massive ice chunks everywhere) Used to be brilliant perch fishing off the skiers pier. Did anyone fish the GU stretch at Harefield from the Horse and Barge* back towards Denham (used to be the Half Way House*) and the adjacent marina that used to be called the half a crown lake?
S-Kippy on 11/05/2011 16:45:14
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Yep...fished that and it still produces I believe. Used to be some big chub but I've not been down there for years though one of Phil's mates still fishes it & does well on the big bream.One of my other favourite haunts was the Blemheim AS bit above the Fisheries [now the Coy Carp] when it was day ticket. Brilliant hemp fishing for quality roach in the summer.There are some hay-uge bream & carp to be had off "The Poo Flumes" and if you know the stretch you'll know exactly where that is.
barbelboi on 11/05/2011 17:06:10
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.There are some hay-uge bream & carp to be had off "The Poo Flumes" and if you know the stretch you'll know exactly where that is. Certainly do – and my mates in Harefield Tackle keep me up to date:)
S-Kippy on 11/05/2011 18:22:05
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Hang on a minute...you're not me are you ?
beerweasel on 11/05/2011 18:46:36
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"A float is pleasing in its appearance even more so in its disappearance". H.T.Sheringham Yes they are nice but too nice,I prefer Norfolk Float Company or anything that isn't clear plastic.
barbelboi on 11/05/2011 19:21:07
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Hang on a minute...you're not me are you ? Do you use Harefield Tackle?
S-Kippy on 11/05/2011 19:26:50
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All the time..but we are way off topic here. Drop me a PM.
chav professor on 13/05/2011 09:43:08
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It really is just a matter of taste, and there's no right or wrong. When I first saw pictures of the floats with just one hackle-tip in as a "signature", I was bowled over. When I saw them with so much plumage they need a handful of Trill in their storage box, I was not so keen. But they were commissioned floats, and if the man doing the paying wants loadsa fevvers, that's his right. Me, I'm happy if I can get the ruddy varnish to stick for a season! The varnish on Andrews floats is extremely resiliant - I believe that the formulation is quite unique to these floats. I read on one of the product Bloggs that a float coated in the varnish resides in a roof gutter and is therefore exposed to both UV radiation and harsh weather conditions. it has lived there for a number of years and the float remains undamaged. RE: Comments The purpose of this review was to give an honest and fair review of a high quality product. I am surprised that this product has come under what could only be percieved as negative comments - especially considering this is a niche market. I see plenty of things that are not really my thing - but I would not post a detrimental comment regarding the product unless I felt it was defective, had a bad experience with the item, or the review was heavilly biased through sponsership endorsement. I just wonder wether a review should really be a platform to openly critisise a product for no other reason than they have feathers - don't like 'em - don't order. The review is honest, objective (even covered the fact that they are not to all tastes) and ultimately wanted it to have some integrity to it - unlike some of the usual reviews and advertorials that we may read in the weeklies/monthlies. Do these floats work well? they perform beautifully and are a pleasure to watch both on the bank and off. I really appreciate the balance of natural materials and effort, patience and care that went into each individual float. You can of course achieve much the same success fishing floats by Middy, Peter drennan et al. They obviously are featherless...............
Alan Tyler on 13/05/2011 10:43:01
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I hope I in no way impugned the finish on Mr Field's floats, which I understand from several sources to be unimpeachable. Perhaps I should have been more precise: "Me, I'm happy if I can get the ruddy varnish to stick for a season!" was meant to refer to floats that I make. Apologies if this has been misinterpreted; it's hard to know when taking care to dot i's and cross t's crosses over into "waffle".
chav professor on 13/05/2011 10:56:46
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I hope I in no way impugned the finish on Mr Field's floats, which I understand from several sources to be unimpeachable. Perhaps I should have been more precise: "Me, I'm happy if I can get the ruddy varnish to stick for a season!" was meant to refer to floats that I make. Apologies if this has been misinterpreted; it's hard to know when taking care to dot i's and cross t's crosses over into "waffle". No, thankyou Alan. I appreciate that. Not specifically you, Alan, but I was a little surprised they came in for such a heavy bashing. I've been off-line with a computer virus - its just great to be back!
Jeff Woodhouse on 13/05/2011 15:18:34
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I just wonder wether a review should really be a platform to openly critisise a product for no other reason than they have feathers - don't like 'em - don't order.I do agree and I think comments have been a little unfair on Andy's floats. As you say, don't order if you don't like them, simples... I've been off-line with a computer virus - its just great to be back! Get yourself AVG, it's free to download and probably THE BEST although it doesn't have feathers..... :p :D
S-Kippy on 13/05/2011 17:30:29
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Hang on.....as this is clearly aimed at me when did I ever say anything other than that they are beautifully made floats ? All I ever did was question the feathers [which I obviously dont like] and which,to me,are pointless. To be blunt I think [my opinion again] that they make an otherwise superbly crafted float look just a tad cheesy. That's my opinion to which I am perfectly entitled. Others feel differently which is their prerogative and I'm pleased for them. I dont think that constitutes anything other than fair comment on what to me is an overtly biased review. If not here, where ? I hope you'll all be very happy with your floats but this was not IMO an objective review. It was a commercial.
Jeff Woodhouse on 13/05/2011 18:16:54
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Hang on.....as this is clearly aimed at me Not really. It's always been a bone of contention as to whether a review of a product should have a thread attached at all, but I think it was felt, years ago, that if no thread was directly attached, someone would start one pretty quickly anyway. With FM reviews Graham always tried to give an honest opinion and if the product was rubbish he would play it low key, but perhaps not say as much. When others did reviews on products they'd bought, then they'd only have bothered writing a reviews if they really liked the product and rated it as excellent and they would be biased. This is what Chav did here so his review was bound to be biased, no other outcome was possible or you probably wouldn't have read it. However, in the accompanying threads, it was usual for others to agree with the outcome although there has been the odd contrary remark. IMO, and only my opinion, if I haven't bought one and used it, whether I like it or not would be irrelavent and I find it's best to say nowt until I have tried one. Hence my praise of the Marco Cortesi reel, but if it had been rubbish, there would never have been a review and I would still have said nowt in order to hide my embarrassment. :o Does that make sense? :confused:;bp
S-Kippy on 13/05/2011 22:34:20
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Yes it was and no it doesn't...not really. What's the point of a review if it doesn't at least attempt to be objective ? I dont follow the logic that says only positive reviews have value. Had the Cortesi been rubbish [it isn't IMO] then I would have wanted to know that because just about every tackle producer will tell you that their product is the best. The Cortesi is a very good example....it is by no means a top quality pin but it is outstanding value.That is both objective and helpful. There aren't many places nowadays that you can go and compare first hand whatever is on your shortlist be that reel/rod/pole whatever. That's why FM is so useful because somebody,somewhere will have whatever it is you fancy and [hopefully] will tell you what they honestly think. I dont want somebody gushing over their latest purchase...I want honest,objective advice. I admire the workmanship that goes into Andrew's floats but I honestly dont like them. Others do.If they are going to be discussed openly [and if not then why post ?] then why should I not say so ? Floats either float or they do not. What else is there to say about them other than whether they are well made [they are] good value [?] and look nice. But I'm not going to fall out with anyone over this....you are perfectly entitled to think I am a git and a philistine for not liking these floats but I'm afraid I just dont and that's that. Now please excuse me...I have a match tomorrow !
the indifferent crucian on 14/05/2011 05:58:09
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That's confused me S-Kippy...I thought you did like them. I thought it was just the feathers that irked? ;)
chav professor on 14/05/2011 07:21:06
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Yes it was and no it doesn't...not really. What's the point of a review if it doesn't at least attempt to be objective ? I dont follow the logic that says only positive reviews have value. Had the Cortesi been rubbish [it isn't IMO] then I would have wanted to know that because just about every tackle producer will tell you that their product is the best. The Cortesi is a very good example....it is by no means a top quality pin but it is outstanding value.That is both objective and helpful. The cortesi example? - that was a product you bought - it appealed to you and was usefull in its purpose. How do you feel about Chris Lythe centrepins? - I have never read a bad review - most owners 'GUSH' over them - I think rather, people are enthusiastic about them and want to bring them to a wider audiance. How could this review have been more objective in your opinion? Perhaps this is the problem with a niche top end product - the reputation that Andrew has built is based on taking the art of float craftsmanship to a new level. If through word of mouth you have heard of his work you would have known about it. However, like me, I had never come across the product untill a thread was opened up discussing them. you had made your opinion perfectly clear on an open forum!!!! I ordered some - were they as good as they looked on the site? Even better than I could of imagined. Was the service great? Impecable - Andrew is easy to deal with, great comunication, values every order, delivers the product on time. All things that are important if you want to make a purchase. Having paid for them with my own cash, if they had fallen short of expectations I would have felt equally compelled to write a negative comment. There aren't many places nowadays that you can go and compare first hand whatever is on your shortlist be that reel/rod/pole whatever. That's why FM is so useful because somebody,somewhere will have whatever it is you fancy and [hopefully] will tell you what they honestly think. I dont want somebody gushing over their latest purchase...I want honest,objective advice. Bit strange here???? It is not fair to compare floats made by other artisan float makers - I own a number of floats made by other makers and all are stunning and valued in my collection. If you fancy buying an Andrew Field float - my review is honest, objective advise. I admire the workmanship that goes into Andrew's floats but I honestly dont like them. Others do.If they are going to be discussed openly [and if not then why post ?] then why should I not say so ? Your comments hardly reflect someone who ADMIRES the craftsman ship - they have repeatedly made unfare comments when really this review is not for you - Hardly the honest, objective advise you apparently crave in a review. Floats either float or they do not. What else is there to say about them other than whether they are well made [they are] good value [?] and look nice. But I'm not going to fall out with anyone over this....you are perfectly entitled to think I am a git and a philistine for not liking these floats but I'm afraid I just dont and that's that. Now please excuse me...I have a match tomorrow ! I won't fall out - I fully except they are not for everyone - this does not make you a git or a phillistine for not liking them. Perhaps feathers drive you to irrationally make statements that unfarely cheapen somthing - which in my eyes is completely un-nessesary and does not contribute objectively to a review.
the indifferent crucian on 14/05/2011 08:23:18
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My last word on this subject. Andrew, and a few others, have raised the craft of floatmaking to an art form. Art, by its very nature, will not appeal to everyone...and thank God for that! :D Now, how much for a 1950's American plastic float in the form of a mermaid? NO? How about a lure in the form of a Budweiser can, then? Then there's the infamous Sambo lure :eek: :D


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