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Every  frustrated carp fisherman in history must have dreamt of owning a mini boat... Every frustrated carp fisherman in history must have dreamt of owning a mini boat...

Sleek, smooth, dynamic craft that can fulfil your every baiting and casting need...But Cliff Hatton wonders if bait boats are really ‘progress’.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Part of the wonder of angling is its uncertainty; it’s an inexact science subject to Nature’s changing mood, the angler’s level of confidence, his bait, his equipment and any number of other influences too numerous to mention.


There will always be factors beyond our control but some problems once seen as insurmountable have now been solved – creating other problems in the process! Who among the carp-fishing fraternity has never noticed how one particular spot, way out, regularly plays host to a thunder-clapping carp? Few I would gamble. And which of them never fixed his eyes on that distant mark and had them glaze over in contemplation: how can I get a bait out there?


Every similarly frustrated carp fisherman in history must have dreamt of owning a mini boat, a radio-controlled craft on which he could place his bait and have it deposited right where ‘X’ marks the spot! Today’s heavy carping methods have, in most cases, sorted the distance problem, but accuracy at 160 metres plus still isn’t an easy task so, for those determined enough to achieve their goal, the advent of the modern bait boat is quite literally a dream come true; not only can they now drop their rig precisely where they want it but they can bait the area (with as much as four kilos of freebies!) in so doing.


 

Once the trap is set the carp fisherman steers his craft back to base and sits back to await events. But is this ‘progress’?


The answer to this will depend very much on your definition of ‘progress’: must ‘progress’ always have a beneficial outcome to be considered ‘progressive’? Can something that is technologically superior to all of its predecessors but without adding to the sum of Human happiness be deemed ‘better’, ‘advanced’...’progressive’? If it can, then what if this piece of improved, state-of-the-art wizardry also has negative effects, drawbacks, disadvantages? Would this cancel-out those attributes that previously defined it as ‘progressive’?


Many would say so.


They might argue that any large, conspicuous item of fishing tackle fashioned from high-gloss fibreglass or plastic has no place in an essentially natural environment; that the very design – sleek, smooth, dynamic – is fundamentally at odds with what I have previously described as the inexact, uncertain world of angling. They would say that ‘the boat’ does away with the need for casting and catapulting skills; that ‘the boat’ constitutes an eyesore, a blot on the lake, a technological step too far. ‘Victims’ of boat-intrusion will vigorously condemn the boat and its user for disrupting their fishing: how would you like your perfectly-positioned floater disturbed by a passing mini-ship? And is nothing sacred? Can you not accept (they would say) that an element of impossibility is actually good for the soul... to know that you’ll never be able to fish right in that distant gap and that such inaccessibility leaves the angler something to dream about – and gives refuge to pressured fish?


They’d have some good points, would they not? But it’s debatable if their argument could out-weigh that of the modern, pragmatic carp-fisherman who sincerely believes his world to be one where results are paramount: “you’ve always fantasized about a remote-controlled bait-boat – well now you can have one! What are you complaining about?” He’d have a good point too, wouldn’t he?


It might well be that opponents of bait-boating (or boat-baiting) are, actually, just upset by their sheer availability; that anyone and everyone can now fish with pin-point accuracy in exchange for some filthy lucre...everything would be just fine if only they had rights of use!


Over to you, readers...what do you think? Would you go for a ban? Or would you like to see the hydro-jet version?

 







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Comments (53 posted):

tiinker on 25/10/2013 11:12:58
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If I ever won the lottery I would have a boat built to my own specifications It would be STELF Boat it would not be seen at all. Instead of carrying rigs bait and free offerings it would carry mini torpedoes designed to destroy all bait boats I would name this submarine The Sweeper. and with a bit of luck and time they will be swept away for ever. We can all dream.:D
binka on 25/10/2013 11:14:37
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If I ever won the lottery I would have a boat built to my own specifications It would be STELF Boat it would not be seen at all. Instead of carrying rigs bait and free offerings it would carry mini torpedoes designed to destroy all bait boats I would name this submarine The Sweeper. and with a bit of luck and time they will be swept away for ever. We can all dream.:D Bit like a submarine then tiinker? :D Must admit I had similar thoughts...
sam vimes on 25/10/2013 12:18:52
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I really don't see the fuss about baitboats. Provided they are used responsibly and considerately, what's the problem? If they aren't being used responsibly or considerately, it's the fault of the person behing the controls. Blame them, not the baitboat. For one reason or another, I choose not to use one. However, I couldn't care less if others do choose to use them.
tiinker on 25/10/2013 12:26:55
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Myself and my friends have talked about the why's and wherefores of bait boats and one of them put it very simply I thought. He said using a bait boat was like playing football with a blind goalkeeper in the over teams goal.
Mr Cholmondeley-Corker (PaSC) on 25/10/2013 12:28:34
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Myself and my friends have talked about the why's and wherefores of bait boats and one of them put it very simply I thought. He said using a bait boat was like playing football with a blind goalkeeper in the over teams goal. Hmm not sure I see that analogy. Isn't using a bait boat more like putting your football into a remote control car and then driving it into the opposition's goal?
sam vimes on 25/10/2013 13:12:24
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I guess that the implication is that using a baitboat is somehow cheating. That's fine, but since when, outside of fishing matches, did fishing become a contest?
tiinker on 25/10/2013 13:40:28
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Ever since the attitude of got to catch the fish come what may came in I think. Same as scoring a goal against a blind goal keeper some people just have to score and they will do it any way they can. It all depends what you want from the sport you chose and what lengths you are prepared to go to, too get it I guess.
geoffmaynard on 25/10/2013 14:15:17
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That's fine, but since when, outside of fishing matches, did fishing become a contest? Surely it's always been thus? A contest between the immense brain and technilogikakacle advances of the 'uman race, against the goldfish and his mates?
tiinker on 25/10/2013 14:35:30
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Some people need a bit more help than others I guess.
sam vimes on 25/10/2013 14:44:41
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Surely it's always been thus? A contest between the immense brain and technilogikakacle advances of the 'uman race, against the goldfish and his mates? Fair enough, but surely that's a personal contest, not one against the bloke next to you? How far you are prepared to go in "winning" the human versus fish contest is a matter of choice. If someone wishes to use a bait boat, but does so with consideration for fish welfare and fellow anglers, so what? I, and many others, choose not to, but I've no desire to stop others using them.
chub_on_the_block on 25/10/2013 14:57:44
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If bait boats were the only way to get a bait to where the fish are, such as into an otherwise inaccessible bay or distant shallows in the middle of some huge pit, then fair enough. But i have seen them used where an underarm cast or underarm throw would get the bait there. In those situations they strike me as rather pathetic "boys toys".
the blanker on 25/10/2013 15:11:19
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I first used a bait boat some 30 years ago, it was on built by myself and a mate before they were comercially available, it just had a flat top and was used to get pike baits out into a channel on a large gravel pit, we got some strange looks at first but these faded as we were catching some good pike. I don't understand why if they are used with common sense why they should bother anyone else, I had one for my carp fishing on a large syndicate lake that I used for getting bait out to where my rig was ( I could cast the distance ) as I couldn't use a throwing stick due to arthritis in my shoulder and elbow, without the boat I doubt I would have caught as many fish.
bennygesserit on 25/10/2013 16:26:42
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I use one to get my sarnies from the caff on my local commie
geoffmaynard on 25/10/2013 17:53:18
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Fair enough, but surely that's a personal contest, not one against the bloke next to you? How far you are prepared to go in "winning" the human versus fish contest is a matter of choice. I've used one a fair bit in France when catfish fishing. The competition is between the angler and the fish - but it can make other anglers without boats feel they are at a disadvantage if the boat is the only way of catching. Jealosy? Perhaps. I never had that problem as I would help others position their baits too, which made friends rather than alienated them.
cg74 on 25/10/2013 19:15:59
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Ever since the attitude of got to catch the fish come what may came in I think. Ah the not-so-new got to catch thing; I'd say in Europe it stems back 40,000yrs+, when Mrs Ugg told Mr Ugg; "we need meat, go catch some fish uhh!" And thankfully for us, Mr Ugg rose to the challenge, otherwise we wouldn't be here now...
Mr Cholmondeley-Corker (PaSC) on 25/10/2013 19:32:35
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Mr Ugg had since moved to Australia and expanded his enterprise to include a huge range of very warm, but totally none waterproof boots
tiinker on 25/10/2013 21:17:59
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Ah the not-so-new got to catch thing; I'd say in Europe it stems back 40,000yrs+, when Mrs Ugg told Mr Ugg; "we need meat, go catch some fish uhh!" And thankfully for us, Mr Ugg rose to the challenge, otherwise we wouldn't be here now... These days putting food on the table to feed your family does not come into how you catch fish today we do it for our enjoyment even using hand grenades can be justified to but food on the table if that is the only way you can achieve your aim families come first. Not the case today though is it, unless you are a pot fisherman and fishermen that use bait boats are not pot fishermen are they.
the blanker on 25/10/2013 21:33:33
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Why do some anglers always criticise the way that other anglers fish? if they enjoy what they do and are not interfering with other anglers whats the problem? I don't and wouldn't matchfish but understand why some choose to I don't fish for chub and find them a bloody nuicance when i'm after barbel but each to their own. its a good job were not all the same as the river I fish would be very crowded.
cg74 on 25/10/2013 22:00:40
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These days putting food on the table to feed your family does not come into how you catch fish today we do it for our enjoyment even using hand grenades can be justified to but food on the table if that is the only way you can achieve your aim families come first. Not the case today though is it, unless you are a pot fisherman and fishermen that use bait boats are not pot fishermen are they. Yes freshwater anglers seldom catch fish for the pot but it's the same primal instinct that drives us, hence it being a male dominated sport. Worth remembering angling only came about as a result of us (as a species) leaning how exploit nature - Farming etc So is it not perfectly understandable that some have a greater desire to catch than others? Going with your earlier football analogy, utilising technology like baitboats for angling, surely it's no different to a goal keeper wearing gloves?
tiinker on 25/10/2013 22:14:26
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I am not a follower of football as such my father was and he used to take me when I was a nipper he even took me to a cup final once and I left at half time to buy bait for the club trip the next day he was not happy. Anyway I can remember goal keepers wearing gloves then perhaps they have all ways wore them just like wicket keepers in cricket or anglers in the winter to keep their hands warm . I do not see the connection with a blind goal keeper unless he also had cold hands.
the blanker on 26/10/2013 09:00:01
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I am not a follower of football as such my father was and he used to take me when I was a nipper he even took me to a cup final once and I left at half time to buy bait for the club trip the next day he was not happy. Anyway I can remember goal keepers wearing gloves then perhaps they have all ways wore them just like wicket keepers in cricket or anglers in the winter to keep their hands warm . I do not see the connection with a blind goal keeper unless he also had cold hands. ??????????
cg74 on 26/10/2013 09:01:53
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Tiinker at his finest; doesn't respond to the main parts of a post, just tries to pick holes in the smallest details.... I wrote: "Going with" - When I should've written: 'Following on from' :omg:
Cliff Hatton 2 on 26/10/2013 09:13:21
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To The Blanker:That's just it! How does a passing mini-ship NOT disturb a nearby angler? Merely the sight of such an alien craft would constitute massive disturbance for many.
Bob Hornegold on 26/10/2013 11:54:39
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:) It depends what they are used for and where and to what ends !! I wanted to fish a Weirpool, which was behind a private house, the house did not have access to this Weirpool but a 70 yard fenced off Garden with over hanging tree's prevented me from fishing this pool. What do you do ? The answer was simple-- a Bait Boat ;) Bob
the blanker on 26/10/2013 12:17:07
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To The Blanker:That's just it! How does a passing mini-ship NOT disturb a nearby angler? Merely the sight of such an alien craft would constitute massive disturbance for many. No more than a flock of geese paddling about above them, I have had takes off carp when the boat I had was above my rig so that would suggest that it does not disturb them, I used to fish a water where the majority of the carp were at range, I couldn't reach them with the rods/reels I had at the time other anglers could and caught, I never thought they had an unfair advantage over me only that they had the equipment suitable for that water and I didn't, bait boats can be misused and I have seen it happen the last instance resulted in the angler being expelled from the syndicate but that wasn't the fault of the boat but the angler and the way he used it. as far as I am concerned if it isn't interfering with me or putting fish in danger then carry on. This thread is a prime example of why the AT will never have the amount of members it should, anglers spending to much time criticising other anglers instead of getting on with their own fishing and all pulling together as a sport. ---------- Post added at 13:17 ---------- Previous post was at 13:16 ---------- :) It depends what they are used for and where and to what ends !! I wanted to fish a Weirpool, which was behind a private house, the house did not have access to this Weirpool but a 70 yard fenced off Garden with over hanging tree's prevented me from fishing this pool. What do you do ? The answer was simple-- a Bait Boat ;) Bob Did you catch Bob?
pidgergj on 26/10/2013 12:55:13
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each to their own i say. i worry about my own fishing, not bothered what anybody else does.
tiinker on 26/10/2013 13:25:01
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Tiinker at his finest; doesn't respond to the main parts of a post, just tries to pick holes in the smallest details.... I wrote: "Going with" - When I should've written: 'Following on from' :omg: Attention to detail is all important if you are looking for the right answer. If you do not make yourself clear and understood you will not get the right answer. Answering questions on forums can be more like a fencing match than the real thing.
sam vimes on 26/10/2013 14:13:21
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I've yet to see any coherent reasoning for the intense dislike for baitboats. I can well understand people not wishing to use them, I don't either. I can understand people being irritated by them if eedjits using them put fish in danger or cross lines and poach swims. However, inconsiderate eejits can do both without using a bait boat. If it happens, it's not the fault of the bait boat. Seems to me that it comes down to this vague and irrational notion of the use of a bit boat somehow being cheating. Who exactly is being cheated escapes me completely. If not that, then, as Geoff hinted at, it's a case of the green eyed monster. I find either quite bemusing. Don't use one, if that is your want. I fail to see why not wanting to use one should preclude allowing those that don't share that view from using one. It looks to be little more than spite.
bennygesserit on 26/10/2013 14:31:43
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I've yet to see any coherent reasoning for the intense dislike for baitboats. I can well understand people not wishing to use them, I don't either. I can understand people being irritated by them if eedjits using them put fish in danger or cross lines and poach swims. However, inconsiderate eejits can do both without using a bait boat. If it happens, it's not the fault of the bait boat. Seems to me that it comes down to this vague and irrational notion of the use of a bit boat somehow being cheating. Who exactly is being cheated escapes me completely. If not that, then, as Geoff hinted at, it's a case of the green eyed monster. I find either quite bemusing. Don't use one, if that is your want. I fail to see why not wanting to use one should preclude allowing those that don't share that view from using one. It looks to be little more than spite. I think a lot of what you say is very true but I know some think a bait boat or a fish finder devalues a catch and that besides having the know how about where to put your bait you must also be able to put the bait there yourself too. Not my view at all but you can see why some traditionalists hold these views , commercials are bad , don't fish the close season etc etc
sam vimes on 26/10/2013 14:47:36
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I think a lot of what you say is very true but I know some think a bait boat or a fish finder devalues a catch and that besides having the know how about where to put your bait you must also be able to put the bait there yourself too. Not my view at all but you can see why some traditionalists hold these views , commercials are bad , don't fish the close season etc etc That's fine, if folks believe that, they don't have to use them. It certainly doesn't mean their views should be imposed on others. The desire to do so smacks of sour grapes. The closest argument to this one I've seen in fishing is that over long poles. Some would like to see a maximum length limit imposed. It is a little different in match circles where a level playing field may be desireable. However, outside of match fishing, the argument holds little water. If those arguing for such an imposition are not match anglers, it usually comes down to them not being able to either handle or afford a long pole. Full on carp matches don't allow the use of bait boats, they are attemping to level the playing field, fair enough. However, how far should they go to level this playing field? Should they ban expensive rods and reels that allow for much longer casting to appease those that can't afford or use such kit?
cg74 on 26/10/2013 15:28:05
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Attention to detail is all important if you are looking for the right answer. If you do not make yourself clear and understood you will not get the right answer. Answering questions on forums can be more like a fencing match than the real thing. As I said earlier: "Tiinker at his finest; doesn't respond to the main parts of a post, just tries to pick holes in the smallest details...." And you've just proved my point!
tiinker on 26/10/2013 21:37:42
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Nothing I can do about how other people fish no more than they can about the way I fish. They cannot fish the waters that I chose to fish because bait boats are not allowed that is why I fish them. So at the end of the day they do what they like and so do I and neither of us interfere with each other. Having what I think is a mischievous dream seems to annoy people who want to make a big issue of it. Are people not allowed to voice a opinion without a inquisition and getting hot under the collar:omg:
the blanker on 27/10/2013 09:04:56
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Nothing I can do about how other people fish no more than they can about the way I fish. They cannot fish the waters that I chose to fish because bait boats are not allowed that is why I fish them. So at the end of the day they do what they like and so do I and neither of us interfere with each other. Having what I think is a mischievous dream seems to annoy people who want to make a big issue of it. Are people not allowed to voice a opinion without a inquisition and getting hot under the collar:omg: I havent seen anyone getting hot under the collar or an inquisition on this thread, all I have seen is anglers that are prepared to allow other anglers to fish as they wish to posting their opinions on something you posted, like it or not fishing tackle moves on it seems some anglers do not which is fine if they want to handicap themselves for some reason but please don't seek to handicap others who wish to move with the times.
tiinker on 27/10/2013 09:09:31
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I think you need to read my last post again and think about it and then look at your own post and read that and think why you wrote it.
the blanker on 27/10/2013 09:55:36
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I think you need to read my last post again and think about it and then look at your own post and read that and think why you wrote it. See there you go again telling people to do what you think they should do.
tiinker on 27/10/2013 10:08:36
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See there you go again telling people to do what you think they should do. I said I think . I did not tell you to do anything get it right not up tight. It makes no difference to me how you fish. You are the one who is making a issue of it not me. I have a opinion about bait boats is that not allowed.
Peter Jacobs on 27/10/2013 10:26:46
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Bait Boats, these must be one of the most emotive subjects on a fishing site. Now, most people who know me will already know that in many things I am a real traditionalist inasmuch as i love to use split cane rods and old centre pin reels. That said, I am just as happy sat behind a trio of Carp rod with bite alarms sat on a rod pod, or for that matter with 14m of long pole fishing a short line. So, my view on bait boats is really quite simple, and that is that they are nothing more than a "tool" in the armory of the modern day carp angler. To me they are no better or worse than a bite alarm or a big pit reel, just another accessory. Mine is a Viper Mk3 with an echo sounder and I use it mainly because I simply cannot afford to spend days and days on a lake with my marker rod and spod rod, and on some venues it can get me into those tight spots in a swim where casting to could be problematical or worse still could leave a broken line and baited rig in the trees. I don't use it on all venues as on some they are not allowed, and I try not to cause any distrubance to others either, in fact you get a lot less disturbance with a bait boat than you would be continually casting a marker rod and then spodding.
the blanker on 27/10/2013 10:48:00
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I said I think . I did not tell you to do anything get it right not up tight. It makes no difference to me how you fish. You are the one who is making a issue of it not me. I have a opinion about bait boats is that not allowed. No if we are to be pedantic you actually said "I think you need" think all you like but I do what I want not what you think I need to do. Can I ask you why you are so against bait boats? ---------- Post added at 10:48 ---------- Previous post was at 10:46 ---------- Bait Boats, these must be one of the most emotive subjects on a fishing site. Now, most people who know me will already know that in many things I am a real traditionalist inasmuch as i love to use split cane rods and old centre pin reels. That said, I am just as happy sat behind a trio of Carp rod with bite alarms sat on a rod pod, or for that matter with 14m of long pole fishing a short line. So, my view on bait boats is really quite simple, and that is that they are nothing more than a "tool" in the armory of the modern day carp angler. To me they are no better or worse than a bite alarm or a big pit reel, just another accessory. Mine is a Viper Mk3 with an echo sounder and I use it mainly because I simply cannot afford to spend days and days on a lake with my marker rod and spod rod, and on some venues it can get me into those tight spots in a swim where casting to could be problematical or worse still could leave a broken line and baited rig in the trees. I don't use it on all venues as on some they are not allowed, and I try not to cause any distrubance to others either, in fact you get a lot less disturbance with a bait boat than you would be continually casting a marker rod and then spodding. A very sensible post.
chub_on_the_block on 27/10/2013 12:02:08
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I can well visualise when a bait boat would be useful - essential even - and to get a bait "where no bait has been before" as Captain Kirk might say, would pay a big dividend in many situations. So i did a quick search of the Viper - looks great. Then i saw the price tag!! (£650+ excluding solar panels or wind turbine). For that money i would be looking for a fine scale model of the HMS Bounty, with a WW2 Rocket launcher thrown in. I think I may need to use a bit of ply wood on a length of string.
Peter Jacobs on 27/10/2013 12:56:17
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I can well visualise when a bait boat would be useful - essential even - and to get a bait "where no bait has been before" as Captain Kirk might say, would pay a big dividend in many situations. So i did a quick search of the Viper - looks great. Then i saw the price tag!! (£650+ excluding solar panels or wind turbine). For that money i would be looking for a fine scale model of the HMS Bounty, with a WW2 Rocket launcher thrown in. I think I may need to use a bit of ply wood on a length of string. Mine was around £750 including spare batteries and a solar panel . . and if you want it with GPS then its about another £600 I think. With the GPS mounted then you can get back to exactly the same spot every time, and I can see a good use for it on those misty mornings, but not at that price.
the blanker on 27/10/2013 14:08:31
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They are without doubt vastly overpriced, a friend of mine had one built by a relative who's hobby was remote control models, it cost less than £200 and did the job as good as anything else, a simple one for pike fishing with just a flat top can be built for even less.
tiinker on 27/10/2013 14:36:49
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No if we are to be pedantic you actually said "I think you need" think all you like but I do what I want not what you think I need to do. Can I ask you why you are so against bait boats? ---------- Post added at 10:48 ---------- Previous post was at 10:46 ---------- One I do need one to catch fish I have carp fished since 1970 to the present day and have never fished at a greater distance than fifty yards. On some of the waters I fish other anglers fish at range to sunken islands and features but I have always fished at short range and I catch enough to keep me happy. The majority of anglers want to fish at range I do not compete with their baits by not fishing the same areas . The waters I chose to fish do not allow bait boats and that is how I like it. On a couple of the waters they have punts that any member can use to fish from but nobody does. Because in the past when it was done on the odd occasion it made the catching of the carp very easy. They are not allowed to be used solely for putting feed or bait out. They do get used if a line gets cast or snagged into the islands which are up to 120 yards out from the bank and for those that want to they can cast to these areas easily with todays equipment some anglers could even do it in the 70s with a bit of practice. I do not see the need for bait boats if you cannot cast to it then you cannot fish it that is my feeling on the matter . What you and others feel you need to use is a matter for you not me. As long as you enjoy what you do what does it matter what other people think.
S-Kippy on 27/10/2013 15:01:42
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Hands up anybody who thinks I have a bait boat ?
Peter Jacobs on 27/10/2013 15:13:09
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Hands up anybody who thinks I have a bait boat ? Undoubtedly, and probably one with double handles too . . . . . . [insert you know what > > > > HERE]
sam vimes on 27/10/2013 15:37:39
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Hands up anybody who thinks I have a bait boat ? Yes, it's a clockwork one with a Daiwa sticker.;):D
S-Kippy on 27/10/2013 16:28:00
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Begone...the pair of you. Gentlemen anglers are above such nonsense.
nicepix on 27/10/2013 18:06:04
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I would imagine Skippy's bait boat is a twin masted schooner with dimmed navigation lights
S-Kippy on 27/10/2013 19:12:52
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I would imagine Skippy's bait boat is a twin masted schooner with dimmed navigation lights Wow ! Does anybody make one like that ? :)
nicepix on 27/10/2013 21:41:38
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Wow ! Does anybody make one like that ? :) Don't be silly. Such a thing would only appeal to people with class and taste. They wouldn't find favour with carp anglers :D
Mr Cholmondeley-Corker (PaSC) on 28/10/2013 11:25:41
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A bait boat is a relatively slow delivery method compared to the much faster options available. When you cast your baited rig it is delivered to the spot via air travel - always significantly quicker than by boat. Similarly, when you bait up your chosen swim by casting a spod, you do it by air travel - again much quicker than by bait boat. However, a spod can only deliver a relatively small payload and so requires repeat casting. Additionaly, like casting your hook bait, you may need to cast some distance accurately. Well, now you can have the speed of air travel with accuracy and delivery. I bring you... CORKER'S CARP COPTER. Simply load up the bomb bay with your ground bait and free offerings plus your baited rig. The fly CORKER'S CARP COPTER quickly and silently to your chosen swim, hover and drop the payload. Job done. You heard it hear first chaps.
geoffmaynard on 28/10/2013 13:39:47
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You heard it hear first chaps. Pah! The Nash Drone-dropper has already superseeded that idea
badgeroo on 28/10/2013 13:48:10
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I came across a bait boat in the seventies, it contained two girls with rowing oars and was situated right in front of us while we were trying to fish. So we took out our catapults and filled it with maggots.:):):):)
the blanker on 28/10/2013 16:36:47
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When I was much much younger and ballooning baits out was the way of finding pike I fished a water where it was to shallow to do it until the depth dropped off about 60 yards out I used one of my mothers Tupperware bowls to put the bait in which I then drifted out to the deeper water and then pulled the bait out of the bowl, got a right roasting of my mother for making a hole in the bowl to attach a line to retrieve the bowl.


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