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can some one explain a wallis cast for me ,is that the one where you spin the reel, at the same time as you make the cast thankyou
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Hi Stik , if you go into the technique section and search for Wallis cast , you'll find a tutorial in there . I think theres a video to look at as well
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keith,see here
centre-pins down near the bottom is a link to all kinds of different casts that can be done with a centre-pin even shiny new akuma's when you get to the wallis casting there's a bunch of video's to watch the last one's the best one.
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Try this link:

http://www.fishing.co.uk/article.php3?id=736

It's about the best one I know of, unless you can lay your hands on a copy of 'Fine Angling for Coarse Fish' (Lonsdale Library: 1930) which includes a chapter on the cast by FWK himself. If you do use the latter, remember to modify the reel position; in those days all reels were right hand wind (i.s the reel handles faced right if you were right-handed) Obviously, this is silly - it's far better to have the handles on the left - so you hold the rod below the reel and control the spin with the thumb of the rod-holding hand. Otherwise, all the instructions are still valid.
Edited: 17/04/06 11:19
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thanks for the advice lads, ive always known the cast as a nottingham cast not a wallis cast
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I have been experimenting recently with a type of cast that an elderly gent showed me many years ago,(he semed old to me, but then I was only about 14 or 15 at the time.. he was probalbly only about 35-40 yrs old ) he was using a pin, and ledgering at some range on a Reservoir for Bream, he was chucking the lead quite a distance. The pin did not have a line guard,in fact you could not make this cast with a line guard..
The pin must be filled with line up to about a 1/4 inch from the rim, much as you would fill a fixed spool. Handles on the left hand side of the rod.The old gent had removed the handles as they could foul the cast.
Firstly, you need a drop of about 3 feet from rod tip to sinker, trap the line against the rim of the pin with the thumb of the same hand as you are holding the rod, with the other hand, put thumb and index finger together forming a circle, with the line from the pin running through the centre of the circle, hold that hand about 12-18" to the side of the pin so that the line will peel off the pin and through the circle formed by thumb and finger, as it does on a fixed spool reel, now this is the difficult bit, make a side cast (if you hold the rod in your r/hand, cast from the left ), as you make the cast, release the line you have trapped against the pin rim with your thumb, but keep forefinger and thumb of the other hand together, still forming the circle..in a perfect world the line should peel off the pin just like a fixed spool, but to the side as opposed to the front, until you have seen an expert do this, you would not credit the distance and accuracy that can be acheived..I have not mastered it myself yet, but I can get a line about 30 or so yards, which is about all you need on the rivers I fish. If all else fails get a Ray Walton rolling Pin.
Good luck.
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sounds like a standard sidecast and its the actual weight (ledger) being used thats pulling the line off the reel,the only reason that you give the line a tug whilst performing the wallis cast is to inpart some action to the line as the weight used to cock the float isn't sufficiant enough to pull line off the reel by its self and your giving it a helping hand so to speak.the following is quite possably the scariest centre-pin cast out there(actually its probably best suited to ledgering)

bc-cast-lefthand side

bc-cast-righthand side

bc-cast-close up view side

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Hi Chavender.. I have looked at the pics attached to your post...There is an Sea Angler who fishes off Filey Brigg, North Yorks, who casts an 8" Oil Bath Scarborough Reel (a big Centrepin for those who have not seen one), just like that,a Wallis Cast..he gets some phenomenal distances,using 6 oz Weights, as you quite rightly say ,It is very scary,he was featured in Sea Angler Mag. What I have described is totally different..at no time does the centrepin spool rotate when casting as I described, and as you say, yes, you do need some weight to make the cast work...personally, although I have been experimenting, I will stick to a fixed spool when needing distance,the centrepin I will keep for rolling Baits, floatfishing, and reasonably close in work.Whatever gets best results works for me.
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You can get fixed spool and multipliers to do some really "heavy" fishing (big fish, big tides, strong line) but can you get a modern centre-pin to use with 50 lb line ?

Ideally one with a drag (star or lever) ...like the modern equivalent of a "Hardy Fortuna" centrepin

It'd be a nice change to get the direct feel on a conger or Blue shark !

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