Ok this is probably the best UFO footage I have seen to date, different UFO filmed between May and September this year in Turkey... and yes Ed you can clearly see the craft this time

(watch in full screen mode)

http://www.siriusufo.org/tr/?fx=sayfa_ac&url=html/english/kumburgaz_2008.asp

This is very convincing footage.

It looks similar to the object I watched with John Ledger. But we were further away and neither John or myself had cameras with suitable long lenses at the time.

There is absolutely no doubt in my opinion that the governments of the USA and UK have even more striking evidence in their possession. They are not going to release this under any circumstances.

What they have released are a few "fuzzy" files where lots of the stuff can easily be explained away.

What governments are terrified of is losing control. Can you imagine 20 million people all at the same time marching on the White House or Downing Street? 

Ron ---

Didn't you tell us, that the doctor told you, that with your 'condition ' you could be prone to have hallucinations .............

Ron 'The Hat' Clay (ACA) wrote (see)

OK, here is the diagnosis as far as I have been able to ascertain.

I have a congenital lesion in the cerebellum area of my brain. In simple terms I was born with a small defect in the area of my brain with controls certain functions of my body, notably balance and hallucinations.

Ed,

Tests I had 6 months ago proved that there was nothing wrong with my brain. In fact one "nurse" wished she had the ability to analyse and work out quadratic equations, and both differential and integral calculus problems, that I have.

Prior to my illness, I was a self employed consultant in microfiltration. I worked for two companies, one of them based in the USA. I can give you names, telephone numbers and email addresses of the people I worked for. If you want, you can contact them for references. My contract lasted 2 1/2 years. Not only was I able to achieve the targets that were set out for me in that time, I exceeded them by 15%! 

I have copies of tests done by a division of the NHS where I was cleared.

I still have a small lesion. So did Einstein I believe.

Not only that I can cast a fly better than most who are 40 years younger than myself, and I will put myself forward to anyone who does not believe me to prove what I say.

Ed I will take you on, and I will put up £500 and prove that I can cast a fly further and better than you, tie flies better than you, and most of all, catch more trout than you.

Winner take all!

I think that was done Graham, but I could be wrong.

This certainly is the most convincing footage of UFOs that I have seen.

To hoax the series of images would have cost a packet of money.

Ron 'The Hat' Clay (ACA) wrote (see)

Not only that I can cast a fly better than most who are 40 years younger than myself, and I will put myself forward to anyone who does not believe me to prove what I say.

Ed I will take you on, and I will put up £500 and prove that I can cast a fly further and better than you, tie flies better than you, and most of all, catch more trout than you.

Winner take all!

Hardly a challenge Ron considering you know I'd never fly fished in my life and that you were the one who first showed me how to cast a fly just a couple of years ago, ..... and you know I don't tie flies...(or are you going senile too??)

So don't try to make out that I've ever said that I can fly fish better than you ......

All I'm saying is that some of the UFO's you've seen  may well be hallucinations .......

 AND

Ron 'The Hat' Clay (ACA) wrote (see)

Prior to my illness, I was a self employed consultant in microfiltration. I worked for two companies, one of them based in the USA. I can give you names, telephone numbers and email addresses of the people I worked for. If you want, you can contact them for references. My contract lasted 2 1/2 years. Not only was I able to achieve the targets that were set out for me in that time, I exceeded them by 15%! 

Good for you ,but I don't need references ---I'm not thinking of giving you a job !!

(And, by the way,with reference to the hallucinations, I was just quoting what you yourself had said )

But Ed,

I get very angry when people think I am off my trolley.

I am not and I can give you the names of many people, including members of this website who will vouch that I am not going nuts. I may be a little slower than I was years ago, and I may be a little more forgetful, and that happens to all of us as we get older; but senile or suffering from dementia - never!!

I have only ever seen one UFO in my life and that was in the company of the late John Ledger. That sighting changed my whole concept, not only of who we are, but the whole universe that surrounds us and there is nothing nutty or stupid about having that sort of attitude to life. It's far worse to be a complete sceptic in my opinion.

Keep an open mind and remember you have only to look up at the sky on a clear night, or even try to contemplate the cosmos itself, and a few aliens from other planets, of which there must be countless billions, seem quite normal.

Fair enough Ron .......

But you have to agree that it's strange that out of all the claims of UFO sightings  (and there must be hundreds/thousands) there has never been a single decent good clear picture, ......has there??

Not that has been released Ed... that don't mean there is none, just that are not privvy.

But I am sure it will come soon.

Is it possible that there is technology on this earth that can make an obviously large vehicle hover in space or in the air without making a sound?  And on top of that move at speeds many times mach 1 in an instant.

If such technology is available then mankind wants it. In one fell stroke we could eliminate the evils of the oil industry.

And in the meantime, the likes of Shell BP, Total, Texaco and others, together with a load of Middle Eastern gentlemen, manipulated by the Rothchilds and Rockerfellers of this world have held The west to ransom.

Well the day of reckoning is coming.   

maybe it is time to consider taking out one of these

insurance

but with my luck all the financial institutions will fall before i can claim