Having just bought two Tica Abyss TF 9000 reels from Tackle Exchange in Walton on Thames, they do feel a quality reel.As a newcomer to Fishing Magic thanks for the reviews, they gave me the confidence to go and buy them. Not yet had a chance to fish with them, but it looks like goodbye Shimanos, never did like the clutch on the Shimano 8000. What mystifies me, is the fact that you never seem to read about these reels in any of the carp magazines. Or am I just trying to convince myself they are a quality reel having just bought two?