carp fishing rod

[welsh gary]

i am going to buy a carp rod, but which one i have been carp fishing for 2 years but not got a out and out carp rod. i have been told to get a 12 foot rod with a test curve of 3.00lb. i was looking at the fox rods which have good write ups, what is the difference in a duplon handle and a abbreviated handle. and also what do you think of them rods or what would you recommend, thanks in advance gary

 

[sam vimes]

Handles on carp rods tend to be made from three main materials, cork, duplon and shrink wrap. The two prevalent styles tend to be full and abbreviated (split section handles). It's relatively unusual to see abbreviated duplon in modern rods, but it was very common twenty years ago. It's always been rare to see abbreviated cork.

What you go for will depend on your own preferences.

 

[thecrow]

The question you have asked is a very wide one with lots of answers, you might get some more specific answers if you could expand on your carp fishing, water type/size, size of fish, methods you use or intend to use are just a few things that can affect what type of rod is needed.

 

[robtherake]

If your target waters are reasonably snag-free and you don't need to cast far, then a lighter rod will suffice. I have far more fun with a couple of light barbel rods than I ever did with comparatively heavy and clumsy 2.75 pounders. If you'd rather buy rods with a carpy pedigree, Nash's Dwarf and Scope ranges are brilliant small/medium water rods and are available in test curves from 1.75 to 4.5lbs, although the latter is intended for spodding. I have a pair of 10ft, 2.25lb Dwarfs and they're pretty decent rods, but TBH, I prefer my slim and lightweight Youngs' barbel rods, which are only 1.6lb.

Walker's 44 pound carp and Yates's 51 pounder, both records in their time, were extracted from a small, weedy water using split cane rods with a test curve of around 1.5lbs.

 

[chrissh]

This is a post from the angling times

Buying a new fishing rod Cork, Duplon and abbreviated handles

Rod-handles

There are three main types of rod handle. There’s the traditional cork that gives the rod a great look and provides excellent grip plus warmth. Then there’s Duplon, which is black or dark grey foam – a cheaper and easy-to-produce alternative to cork. Finally there’s abbreviated handles. These are common on carp rods.

Some rods have a mix of cork and Duplon. This won’t affect the rod’s performance at all, but it will help keep the rod’s cost down though as the Duplon section is cheaper to place upon the rod butt compared to cork.

If the truth be told, abbreviated handles are nothing more than a fashionable addition to carp rods. They make the rod look nice, and they do provide grip in the right places, but that’s all really.

Link Buying a new fishing rod — Angling Times

 

[Philip]

First thing I would recommend is not to get a 3lb TC rod.

Get yourself a rod of about 2-1/4 or 2-1/2 TC and 12 foot long with a through action. That will cover allot of different options for you...basically everything apart from casting to the Horizon which I imagine wont be your goal if its your first Carp rod.

For many years I used rods exactly like that for all my Carp fishing which ranged from small ponds, to inland oceans and big rivers and they did just fine. I still use them now

 

[Keith M]

Why do you really need a 3lb test curve rod Gary?

If you are needing to cast to the horizon using heavy leads and big pit reels then I can see why a 3lb rod might be needed; but to be honest it is your first Carp rod and if you want to be able to use it at more normal ranges then a rod of between 1.75lb to 2.75lb can be a lot more sensible and much more enjoyable to use.

Some 3lb test curve rods may advertise a 'through action' but they will still take 3lb to bend the tip at right angles which could rip a hook out of a carps lips when you get it under your rod tip if you are not extremely careful.

I often use a 1.75lb or 2lb test curve specialist rod for Carp up to the mid to high 20s at fairly close ranges and will only very rarely get any hook pulls because the rod will absorb any sudden lunges and twists and turns that the Carp makes, especially when it gets closer and under the rod tip.

If there are a fair number of Lilly beds or there are islands fairly close in, or I am needing to cast a lead to around 60 to 80 yards plus, and the carp run big, then I will usually use my 2.75 test curve Carp rods.

I also have a 2lb test curve 12ft Carp rod that is a dream to use when I'm using surface baits.

All I'm meaning to say is; don't lumber yourself with a 3lb test curve Carp rod unless you really really need one, especially if it's your first Carp rod.

I do own a pair of 3lb test curve rods but they have been the least used of my Carp rods, and usually only get used if Im piking and need to chuck out a deadbait.

Tight lines
Keith

 

[symonh2000]

I have a few carp rods, and the 3lb one is like a broom handle in comparison to the lighter ones.

Most of my fishing for carp is done on smaller pools, so as above it only really gets used for chucking deadbaits.


Changing the subject slightly I always wondered why carp rods had abbreviated handles, or handles covered in shrink wrap. Personally I would rather have a full handle in either cork or duplon as it feels nicer and less cheap-skate.

 

[Philip]

Changing the subject slightly I always wondered why carp rods had abbreviated handles, or handles covered in shrink wrap. Personally I would rather have a full handle in either cork or duplon as it feels nicer and less cheap-skate.

I suspect its precisely because its cheap skate ! ...its cheaper & easier to build for the rod makers than using cork.

I imagine allot of them would do a custom build in cork if someone wanted it...at a price.

 

[ken more]

i am going to buy a carp rod, but which one i have been carp fishing for 2 years but not got a out and out carp rod. i have been told to get a 12 foot rod with a test curve of 3.00lb. i was looking at the fox rods which have good write ups, what is the difference in a duplon handle and a abbreviated handle. and also what do you think of them rods or what would you recommend, thanks in advance gary

Hi Gary, if you can, ask a mate to let you have a go with one of their's and see what you think before buying any

 

[welsh gary]

thanks for all the answers. i did try a banshee rod with a test curve of 3lb and i did not like it at all i may as well take a broom handle, so now i am thinking maybe a maximum of 2 and a half pound test curve. where i will be fishing there are fish there to 30 pound.fox have a horizon rod with a test curve of 2.25 lb

 

[Philip]

thanks for all the answers. i did try a banshee rod with a test curve of 3lb and i did not like it at all i may as well take a broom handle, so now i am thinking maybe a maximum of 2 and a half pound test curve. where i will be fishing there are fish there to 30 pound.fox have a horizon rod with a test curve of 2.25 lb

Sounds about right...dont worry about the size of the fish...a lower test curve rod with a through action can actually impart more pull on a fish than a higher test curve rod with a fast action. A 2.25 TC rod will land any Carp out there.

Go for it !

 

[robtherake]

thanks for all the answers. i did try a banshee rod with a test curve of 3lb and i did not like it at all i may as well take a broom handle, so now i am thinking maybe a maximum of 2 and a half pound test curve. where i will be fishing there are fish there to 30 pound.fox have a horizon rod with a test curve of 2.25 lb

I've had fish to mid-twenties on my 1.6lb rods and none of them took more than fifteen yards of line. It's surprising how much stick you can give out with lighter rods and they cushion the fight so much better. Nice to have a heavier tool or two in your armoury for when you need it, but playing fish is so much more enjoyable with a rod that bends a bit.

 

[associatedmatt]

what about some chub 2.25 lb rods got a pair here if looking for some 2nd hand rods only been used 5 times maximum , not really into big carp fishing .