Bolt Rigging For Roach

who am i too argue with ron

why not if you have a point make it, that's what a forums for.

you never know you might have some thing useful to say.

that last bit obviously i won't apply to myself.

[Michael Townsend 3]

I stick to one hook because you only get about one fish in ten on the top hook, plus it can tangle in the net which is a pain, especialy when trying to unhook a big roach at night.

Bristle helicopter rig.
Cut two lengths of 0.5 mm silicone tubing.Slide one onto your mainline.Next slide on a size 12 swivel.Slide on second bit of silicone.Take a 1 inch length of bristle from a broom.Must be stiff not supple.Push the bristle through the swivel eye with the line running through.Now fix in place with the two bits of silicone tubing.Probably best to get the components and you will see how it is set up.
I know some use the power gum or pole elastic especially those on Tring but this is only required if you are fishing tiny hooks and light hooklengths.As I said dont overcomplicate what is a very effective rig and a safe one if set up as I have described.
Two hooks or one ?Michael T 3 is spot on. Matter for the individual but I dropped the second hook as it cost me fish at the netting point.Not lost fish at the net but time getting the second hook out of the landing net mesh I wasn't getting the bait back out during what can be very limited feeding periods in winter.When I did use two I noticed that practically every fish would come on the hook nearest to the feeder.Only on rare occasions and strangley during daylight did the top hook come into play.With the helicopter rig as above I now would slide the hooklength around to find the optimum position.As you should be re casting every twenty minutes or so this is not a problem.
Last mesage I said 1.75 ounce is the best feeder weight, in heavy undertows you may have to go up.I think from memory I have fished as much as three to keep position, just be careful playing the fish.It stil remains balanced bite wise as you will have to add weight to the bobbins too which is why I use bobbins (Solar) and take a few add on weights rather than swingers (modified Bob Hendersons).
For Tench and Bream I go in line by the way as a paternoster is not so good in weed.
Finally I like braid as a mainline but I do use a nylon leader.This acts as a shock absorber when playing fish under the rod tip.You wont get smashed up but hook pulls are eliminated (one in ten years)The mainline braid is 10lb the nylon shock leader is 6lb .I know it sounds crude but it is only one rig for certain situations.

[Bryan Baron 2]

Deecy might be a silly question but why the bristle does this aid the helicopter effect. Why not to beads held in place with stop knots.

Sounds interesting and i must give it a closer inspection later in the year.

Sorry been away.I found that there was considerable pull required to shift either stop knots or float stops.So if you snapped off during a cast there was no way that a fish could rid itself of the rig plus feeder.With the bristle thing the bristle with easily pull out of the two bits of silicone.Also prior to the bristle being pushed into the silicone the swivel will ride over the silicone.That is why it is important to use the swivel size and silicone size as already stated.As there is no friction imparted by this little set up as there is with stop knots you canot damage the mainline.It is easy to move the position of the rig. Finally whilst playing a fish the rig will dismantle every time.This means the hooklength will slide down to the feeder which makes netting and playing through weed so much easier.And finally finally the bristle creates a small stiff section ensuring the helicopter effect works properly creating a virtually tangle free set up.
Sorry for late reply.

[Bryan Baron 2]

Cheers Deecy will check this rig out.