Favourite Chub Hook

[bigchub]

Originally Posted by Berty

That proves sweet FA about the hooks..........just that the old man is a better angler!

Lol! I suppose he knows his stuff when it comes to chubbing (edit - he definitely knows his stuff when it comes to chubbing!) but neither of us can remember the last time he lost a chub on a Hilton Carp Hook and that's going back well over 10 years.

[barbelboi]

Originally Posted by chav professor

Why do people use barbless for Chub? It may just be a confidence thing and rarely if ever do chub slack line me, but I have to use barbed or preferably micro-barbed hooks.

Because some club waters insist on barbed and some insist on barbless, being of the age when barbed was 'take it or leave it' I prefer barbed and will use it when possible. The only problem with barbed,IMO, exists with people who do not know how to safely unhook a fish with a barbed hook in it's mouth therefore causing unnecessary damage - IMO playing a fish on a barbed hook does less damage to the mouth of the fish than barbless.

Jerry

[chav professor]

Originally Posted by bigchub

Yep deadly serious. Brilliant for chub especially when paste fishing.

Chav Professor - Remember that wet cold and miserable day on the Gipping when me and you blanked in style while my old man caught the only two fish of the day? Jack Hilton's didn't let him down that day! Mr Chub magnet is still doing the business but these days he is targeting roach with his same laid back style.

Hang on a sec BigChub, that wouldn't happen to be the day I put you and your Dad in all the going swims and I went off piking....... I caught 7 or 8 livebaits - but no pike. Thats not blanking big style lol.

I had a bash at the last hour with my little 7ft winkle picker livebait rod for a Chub if i remember correctly and borrowed some stuff of ya! Still not a big style blank........

Three hours into darkness tonight - i Blanked big stylee. But I'm quite happy with my Chub tally so far this year. Still on target to clear 50 chub over 4lb comfortably this year

For the record I reckon Chub would get on well with Jack Hiltons as well as Lion'D'Or, or any other hook. IMO there is not an issue with Chub and hooks. I do use SS because they are only £1.10 a packet and easy to get hold of - even hit and hold I have yet to have one straighten on a chub....They don't fight hard, but can fight dirty though..... Favourite hooks for Chub is like saying which is your favourite member of TakeThat!!! Every one has one, the majority like Robbie or Gary (super specialists) - but they are all in takethat, Jason and Howard (modern fancy carp hooks) can dance and Marky (Jack Hiltons) - well apparently he used to be the cute one. Sorry guys, took the missus to see them on saturday night! One excited fan got her baps out - probably not for my benefit - I of course just looked disgusted (but unfortunately too intently to look sincere).................

[bigchub]

Originally Posted by chav professor

Hang on a sec BigChub, that wouldn't happen to be the day I put you and your Dad in all the going swims and I went off piking....... I caught 7 or 8 livebaits - but no pike. Thats not blanking big style lol.

I had a bash at the last hour with my little 7ft winkle picker livebait rod for a Chub if i remember correctly and borrowed some stuff of ya! Still not a big style blank........

Three hours into darkness tonight - i Blanked big stylee. But I'm quite happy with my Chub tally so far this year. Still on target to clear 50 chub over 4lb comfortably this year

For the record I reckon Chub would get on well with Jack Hiltons as well as Lion'D'Or, or any other hook. IMO there is not an issue with Chub and hooks. I do use SS because they are only £1.10 a packet and easy to get hold of - even hit and hold I have yet to have one straighten on a chub....They don't fight hard, but can fight dirty though..... Favourite hooks for Chub is like saying which is your favourite member of TakeThat!!! Every one has one, the majority like Robbie or Gary (super specialists) - but they are all in takethat, Jason and Howard (modern fancy carp hooks) can dance and Marky (Jack Hiltons) - well apparently he used to be the cute one. Sorry guys, took the missus to see them on saturday night! One excited fan got her baps out - probably not for my benefit - I of course just looked disgusted (but unfortunately too intently to look sincere).................

Of course your right Chav, hooks for any species are a very personal thing and with most kinds of tackle. What might be ok for one person might not be ok for the next. Ok so you didn't "blank in style" (like me) that and that's down to you knowing your local river so well. By the way I didn't know you had a secret Take That fetish!

[Bob Hornegold]

hooks ?

I think it depends of the way you want to catch Chub ?

On a Hair Rig you cany beat the circles, if I'm on the Tip fishing Bread/Cheese Paste, I like the Straight Long shank hooks.

If it's Maggots/Feeder then the Animals seem to suit my kind of fishing.

Bob

[chav professor]

Is hair rigging a reliable method of tripping up chub? I don't mean the odd fish - but sustained use resulting in a better than average hook-up and landing rate of chub...... I mean anything can have its day!

When i suggested 'am I missing out not using a bolt rig and hair for Chub'.... it opened a can of forum worms to say the least........

I suspect if bolt rigging was a good method there would not have been any nonsense about - 'you don't wanna do it like 'at'! - brigade.... I just suspect that it is not a method best suited to this species or a method that works all the time! Otherwise, it would be a generally accepted method - rather than be met with 'the why would you want to 'cheat' and catch them with an underhanded method like that'... it doesn't seem to bother people when considered as a method used for other species. (in-deed if it was effective, I would be just as inclined to use it as anyone else).

Being a forum and a place where every line can be picked apart and misconstrued. I am not being judgemental, just curious as I am yet to be convinced. Does bolt rigging work for Chub????

[barbelboi]

Like many I believe that the most important aspect of chub fishing is not to let them know you are there. Once that's sorted, IMO, end tackle presentation is not usually paramount. The only time I’ve used a bolt rig/hair whilst chub fishing was when trying out armour mesh when it first came out. It did work with some very sloppy bait/particles that you could never fish any other way, however I believe that many traditional methods work equally well or better with less $odding about..

[chav professor]

Thats where I am at...... too many more convenient and effective methods. But is did bug me at the time that whilst bolt rigging for every concievable species is OK, but to suggest it for Chub is a heresy. If it was a good method - it would be standard practice for most, like it is with Barbel, carp, tench or now even roach to name but a few........

[cg74]

Originally Posted by chav professor

Is hair rigging a reliable method of tripping up chub? I don't mean the odd fish - but sustained use resulting in a better than average hook-up and landing rate of chub...... I mean anything can have its day!

Being a forum and a place where every line can be picked apart and misconstrued. I am not being judgemental, just curious as I am yet to be convinced. Does bolt rigging work for Chub????

It is an exceptionally adept method of catching chub, though not one I often use as I enjoy watching a soft tip pull around much more. Also I like watching a tip as it tells me what is happening under the water.

I didn't know Bob was an advocate of this technique but a real exponent of it is SimonK, and after my last attempt at explaining it on here being berated so much, I'll leave it to Simon or Bob too describe the rig mechanics, if they wish...



On the hook front:
Float fishing, Drennan Super Spades, bear in mind I only ever float fish small or relatively small baits.
Legering small baits, Drennan Carbon Feeder (spade end hooks).
Legering big baits, Drennan Carbon Specimen.
For fishing bread flake, Drennan Super Specialist (the ones costing about £1 a pkt, not the barbel hooks).

[Fred Blake]

Originally Posted by chav professor

Thats where I am at...... too many more convenient and effective methods. But is did bug me at the time that whilst bolt rigging for every concievable species is OK, but to suggest it for Chub is a heresy. If it was a good method - it would be standard practice for most, like it is with Barbel, carp, tench or now even roach to name but a few........

Based on my experience (which is admittedly limited to small and medium rivers, up to Hampshire Avon size) the combination of bolt rig and hair would seem to be the best way to avoid hooking chub! Whilst they certainly gulp the bait down and give easy unmissable bites on occasion, more often than not they can be quite difficult to hit. They tend to pick the bait up in their lips and back off with it, which is why it helps to feed them some slack as soon as the first pluck is felt. Mounting the bait on a hair just makes it easier for the chub to pick the bait up without getting the hook, and using a bolt rig simply causes the bait to be pulled out of the chub's mouth again almost straight away.

I prefer to create the exact opposite effect - hook in the bait to maximise chances of the chub actually having it in his mouth when I strike, and the means to feed slack line to a taking fish.

I'm not anti-bolt rig either; far from it, as I use the principle to good effect for carp, tench, bream and roach.