Day ticket waters that hold Carp - Aaaaarrrghhhh

[simonvicos]

Why do they attract such knobheads ??????

I went to Mill Farm in Pulborough yesterday with a mate who is into his Perch fishing and we managed to catch some nice ones, as well as a load of Silver Bream in the margins. And also an Eel on worm

However, the place was festooned with people hauling 5lb Carp out on gear that could stop a train. Some of the Carp I caught on the float had beaks not mouths !. Everyone of them had alarms set at Ear Splitting Volume and they all seem intent on informing everyone around the lake of everything they are doing.

At one point one of these idiots cast across the lake (across at least 6 swims ) and right into mine. I said 'do you want to sit on my lap and fish my swim?' he said 'You can f*** off I'll f***** cast where I like mate' I was here first' at which point I got up and walked towards where he was sitting, not to be aggressive but to perhaps make him understand At this point he got very humble and reeled in, sadly his young son floatfishing next to him was witness to this oafishness'. During the day his son caught a small Perch and I heard his dad say 'just rip the F****** 'ook out and kick it back'

We were last out of the gates and as I walked past his swim there were 4 beer cans (he was driving) on the floor a fag packet a luncheon meat tin cut up very ragged and two coke bottles

I bagged it with a sigh and once at the car park found 4 bags of rubbish people had left for the owner to remove, one of them was a clear plastic bag with hair rig packets, boilie bag (which are banned there) and some Stella bottles.

My main concerns are :

Owners seem too content to pick up money and not police the waters they own

so many rules on tickets but none of them checked, no rod licence checks at all either.

If owners of such waters value their fish, why do they not check rigs or seek to eliminate bad angling practice ?


As we left my mate said to me 'I dont think I'll ever come back here'

Or am I just a moaning minnie ?

[Mr Cholmondeley-Corker (PaSC)]

Join a club or two mate.

Although not without problems, the rules tend to eliminate this sort of so called angler, allowing the test of us to enjoy our time fishing.

[dangermouse]

My local is nothing like that but it`s fairly small and doesn`t allow night fishing or the use of multiple rods so it probably doesn`t attract that sort of angler.

Can`t say I`ve ever known the owner to come round and check for things that are banned but the list is pretty small anyway.

[sam vimes]

I've no idea why day ticket waters that hold carp would attract "knobheads".
Why were you attracted to such a place? I guess that it might be the same for them.
However, rather than going down a tired old route of "all carpers are knobheads", it's more reasonable to suggest that a portion of any type of anglers are inconsiderate oafs, "knobheads" if you prefer.

[markg]

This is the main reason given against more day ticket or free fishing which is a shame. I am an advocator of that but, this sort of thing does bring doubts to my mind. All it takes is a bit of consideration and courtesy to others and the venue, it is not hard to do but, this is going out of fashion and has been for a long time.. I think some owners are just afraid of trying to enforce better behavior and observance of the rules in case of violence and I can understand that.

Is it just because it contained carp and would a carp free day ticket water attract a better angler.?

[Eric Edwards]

Well what did you expect?

For me, you did the wrong thing in bagging up the rubbish, let the owner do it. If that's the kind of fishery he runs then that's the kind of behaviour he's got to contend with, your sticking plaster action will just delay the inevitable.

[bennygesserit]

Originally Posted by simonvicos

Why do they attract such knobheads ??????

I went to Mill Farm in Pulborough yesterday with a mate who is into his Perch fishing and we managed to catch some nice ones, as well as a load of Silver Bream in the margins. And also an Eel on worm

However, the place was festooned with people hauling 5lb Carp out on gear that could stop a train. Some of the Carp I caught on the float had beaks not mouths !. Everyone of them had alarms set at Ear Splitting Volume and they all seem intent on informing everyone around the lake of everything they are doing.

At one point one of these idiots cast across the lake (across at least 6 swims ) and right into mine. I said 'do you want to sit on my lap and fish my swim?' he said 'You can f*** off I'll f***** cast where I like mate' I was here first' at which point I got up and walked towards where he was sitting, not to be aggressive but to perhaps make him understand At this point he got very humble and reeled in, sadly his young son floatfishing next to him was witness to this oafishness'. During the day his son caught a small Perch and I heard his dad say 'just rip the F****** 'ook out and kick it back'

We were last out of the gates and as I walked past his swim there were 4 beer cans (he was driving) on the floor a fag packet a luncheon meat tin cut up very ragged and two coke bottles

I bagged it with a sigh and once at the car park found 4 bags of rubbish people had left for the owner to remove, one of them was a clear plastic bag with hair rig packets, boilie bag (which are banned there) and some Stella bottles.

My main concerns are :

Owners seem too content to pick up money and not police the waters they own

so many rules on tickets but none of them checked, no rod licence checks at all either.

If owners of such waters value their fish, why do they not check rigs or seek to eliminate bad angling practice ?


As we left my mate said to me 'I dont think I'll ever come back here'

Or am I just a moaning minnie ?

I have seen all this sort of behaviour and worse including

people blatantly fishing banned baits
fishing 2 rods and putting one down when the ballif comes round
Lifting a five pound carp in the air without using a net ie suspending it from the hook in its mouth
Fishing without a net and shouting "net net" when they catch a fish.

On one pool I fish I toyed with telling the owner that his baliffs were allowing banned baits ( seen it myself , and checked with another baliff that the bait was banned ) but I can't bring myself to grass him up.

Some of it is education , maybe some of these people are learning , that was certainly the case with me.

I have stopped fishing a public pool by me because the behaviour is much much worse there.

Its not always that bad I have had some very pleasent days chatting idly to the guy next to me and of course if you go in the week , which is what I tend to do now , you don't see so much of this behaviour.

So totally agree with your post its not what fishing is about for me I usually go to try and relax.

[robthomo]

I think that kind of behavious has always gone on to some extent but the commercial type places just condense everyone into a small bit of water and make it more apparent. I baillif a stretch of river and I can assure you that there are just as many idiots without nets, leaving rubbish etc on there fishing for other species but as the swims are seperated more it isn't so apparent

[terry m]

The behaviour you describe is symptomatic of a fishery run by a person who is only interested in takings. Leave those places to the moronic ckufwits that behave in such a way.

As for clearing up after him, your motives may be virtuous, but the fishery owner does not deserve your dilligence.

[blounty65]

good manners dont cost anything thankfully it appears that the ones without the manners are a minority