Fish Thrash and Panic using slack lines and float

[laguna]

I've sometimes unhooked silver fish with a hook poking through its eye socket when float fishing.
Has this ever happened to you? More to the point, and I'm still on the fence regards this but; are barbless hooks to blame?

Hook in the eye, usually caused by panicking fish thrashing about when float fishing, I cant remember back to a time when it happened with barbed hooks and I'm pretty sure it never happened when ledgering on tight lines either.
I suppose a thrashing self-hooked fish will panic, twist and turn causing variable tensions on the line before you get it out of the water, which could in theory, cause the hook point to come out and back in again only to re-engage elsewhere in the back of an eye socket or some other part of its mouth.

On other occasions when float fishing for pasty carp up in the water, sometimes (rarely) the hook has gone all the way through their mouth - hook eye, line and all.

Panicking fish on a slack line or barbless to blame, bit of both?

 

[robtherake]

...or just another form of foul-hooking? A fish heads for the bait and brushes the line with its snout, causing the hook to pull in a bit further up, maybe. Or it's lunged for another morsel of bait and met the hook on its way there? Whatever the reason, it's a fairly common occurrence.

 

[S-Kippy]

Had a trout off Farmoor last week hooked plumb in the eye. It fought like hell and frankly who can blame it ? Almost certainly this was caused by it missing the fly or turning away at the last minute. I get the odd one hooked outside the mouth for exactly the same reason.

However, in my experience anyway, its quite rare to foul hook a trout. By that I mean a proper foul hook as in pectoral, dorsal, up the Jacksy etc.

 

[binka]

I tend to get this with small roach and perch occasionally and blame it on fish "blowing" the loose lake bed to get to the tiny pieces of chopped worm.

A couple of times over the years I've just had an orange eye on the hook and on one occasion on the river I had a huge wallop round on the barbel rod to find just a barbule on the hook uke:

 

[ciprinus]

i once was left with just a fishes rusty sheriffs badge on the hook after a ten min thrash, dont know what the fish was thinking, but me? i didnt arf larf mg:

 

[laguna]

i once was left with just a fishes rusty sheriffs badge on the hook after a ten min thrash, dont know what the fish was thinking, but me? i didnt arf larf mg:

Is that the same as a choccy starfish?

 

[lee_j]

Is that the same as a choccy starfish?

If you think that might be the same as a choccy star fish pal you wanna change your choccy star fish supplier :thumbs:

 

[rayner]

Yes like most I've fouled the odd eye.
Far likely to my mind for causing damage to fish has to be method feeders.
On far more occasions I have cast my feeder tight to an island and inadvertently struck fish in shallow water, I have on several occasions seen the odd fish floating belly up.
In my experience feeders are far more dangerous than hooks.

 

[tigger]

Yes like most I've fouled the odd eye.
Far likely to my mind for causing damage to fish has to be method feeders.
On far more occasions I have cast my feeder tight to an island and inadvertently struck fish in shallow water, I have on several occasions seen the odd fish floating belly up.
In my experience feeders are far more dangerous than hooks.

I've never witnessed a leger killing a fish, you must be a good shot!

 

[laguna]

I mean to say; the hook goes in through the mouth and out through the eye socket. Not foul hooked in the eye lol

 

[daniel121]

Can remember a few times foul hooking a fish in the eye, not plesent.

 

[robtherake]

I mean to say; the hook goes in through the mouth and out through the eye socket. Not foul hooked in the eye lol

Yes, I have seen that: it's most puzzling. Quite how it works its way through I find hard to imagine.

 

[Tee-Cee]

I've been using giant hemp on my last few trips and messing with various hook sizes in attempt to find the most suitable range and size for this bigger seed which I think I have now done.
However, in trying 14 and 16's, on both occasions I have foul hooked two roach - one several mm from the mouth and the other in the eye. No barbs so the hooks removed without undue stress - I hope !

I agree with the premise ( as with the trout and fly ) that the fish are possibly darting for the loose feed seed and turning at speed in all directions to pick them up, accidently catching the hook, much of which is exposed due to the way I hook the seed to aid hooking ratio ( I actually ' clamp ' the seed onto the back part of the bend and onto the shank, rather then on the bend itself ). Still miss many fish but hooking ratio pretty good - all part of hemp fishing !

This has only happened with the bigger hook sizes - 18 and 20 okay for standard size seeds without problem ......................

I just hope it doesn't happen too often though, otherwise I will need to have a rethink..

 

[rayner]

I've never witnessed a leger killing a fish, you must be a good shot!

To be a good shot would infer I was aiming at fish which I certainly was not.
The incidents where fish have been injured of killed as been in shallow swims where large numbers of fish are present.
Some fish like living on the edge I suppose.

 

[tigger]

To be a good shot would infer I was aiming at fish which I certainly was not.
The incidents where fish have been injured of killed as been in shallow swims where large numbers of fish are present.
Some fish like living on the edge I suppose.

Deffo living on the edge with a crack shot like you

 

[rayner]

Deffo living on the edge with a crack shot like you

Crack shot my ar#se "who can't cast straight"

 

[robtherake]

Crack shot my ar#se "who can't cast straight"

I can cast as straight as an arrow, in metronomic fashion; until someone's watching, then everything goes to merde.