Roach Groundbait

[cbeattie92]

Going fishing for roach in Drumlona Lough, Co. Monaghan, Ireland next weekend. I will be feeder fishing. Anybody any preference on which groundbait to use? I was going to try this one with some maggot:

DYNAMITE BAITS SILVER X ROACH GROUNDBAIT -ORIGINAL | eBay

 

[peter crabtree]

I'm not familiar with lough fishing in Ireland but generally for Stillwater roach I prefer to use a dark coloured gb .
Sensas 3000 Gros Gardons (Big Roach) Groundbait

This one is perfect IMO ....

Someone once told me roach don't like swimming over light gb because they can be seen by airborne predators. Whether this is true or not, it makes sense to me and I've stuck with it.

 

[S-Kippy]

Someone once told me roach don't like swimming over light gb because they can be seen by airborne predators.

I know what you mean but on first reading I was thinking of some USAF Corporal sat in front of a screen in Missouri remote guiding an unmanned drone onto your punch line.

 

[greenie62]

I know what you mean but on first reading I was thinking of some USAF Corporal sat in front of a screen in Missouri remote guiding an unmanned drone onto your punch line.

I've always been concerned over the average Yanks ignorance of world Geography - with the knowledge that they now have the ability to deliver death from the skies from a LazyBoy chair with a remote control whilst buzzing on a quart of Coke - I'm even more worried!

 

[Peter Jacobs]

. . . . . . that they now have the ability to deliver death from the skies from a LazyBoy chair . . . .

. . . which is undoubtedly upholstered in "forest camo"

 

[Peter Jacobs]

I would be inclined to also go with Gros Gardons 3000

I riddle it before adding the water as there are some rather large particles in there, and those I tend to dampen separately, and then add back in after the rest of the mix has been riddled off.

 

[Ray Daywalker Clarke]

I only use two kinds of ground bait for my Roach fishing. Brown crumb with nothing added, or Liquidized Bread with nothing added.

I can't see how a light coloured ground bait would show up Roach, when the water they swim in maybe very clear. If the water wasn't clear then the light ground bait would have to glow to show up the roach in any depth.

Mashed bread has been used for years, and is a proven way of drawing in the Roach.

 

[rayner]

Brown crumb and 20% of white crumb has a binder to carry casters or dead maggots.

 

[cbeattie92]

Got myself some Gros Gardons 3000 and breadcrumb. What would you recommenced when mixing it? 50/50? With maggots, casters and sweetcorn?

 

[peter crabtree]

Depends how deep the water is? If it's deep I'd use the 3000 on its own, it mixes quite stiff so should stay firm on the way down. If you mix crumb with it it will break up and hang in the water defeating the object. Personally I never put any bait in the mix as this would also make the gb break up, the only bait I want the roach to pick up is on my hook.

 

[cbeattie92]

The river is about 6ft deep at the point I'll be fishing. It's the Upper River Bann in Portadown, Northern Ireland


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[mikench]

Bought some of the recommended Sensas gb today and will try next time out!

My 400th post! Never did I think........

 

[robtherake]

Bought some of the recommended Sensas gb today and will try next time out!

My 400th post! Never did I think........

I was shocked to see I'd topped 2000...that's some stock of drivel.

 

[maurice walsh]

i tend to go with plain brown crumb mixed with any gb thats red in colour, mixed 2 or 3 crumb to 1 red, works well for me here on the lower shannon

 

[Peter Jacobs]

i tend to go with plain brown crumb mixed with any gb thats red in colour, mixed 2 or 3 crumb to 1 red, works well for me here on the lower shannon

When we fished those huge festivals in Ireland then crumb ground baits were the order of the day but mainly due to the huge heads of fish that were present.

These days, on many rivers you need a ground bait that contain more attractors than feed content, hence the recommendations for Sensas Gros Gardons

 

[maurice walsh]

i see where your coming from but the shoals of silvers/perch are way bigger than they used to be so feed and attractant are needed to hold fish in your swim , bream were the big shoalfish back in the day with perch in some numbers, but the introduction/migration of roach and dace has turned the thing around big time to a silver feast , especially in rivers where shoals reach huge numbers, and also to the extent that ireland now has a very large roach/bream hibrid population, unheard of 20/25yrs ago , and are now a target fish for specialists , with the irish record at somewhere north of 7 1/2 lbs

 

[Philip]

Depends how deep the water is? If it's deep I'd use the 3000 on its own, it mixes quite stiff so should stay firm on the way down. If you mix crumb with it it will break up and hang in the water defeating the object. Personally I never put any bait in the mix as this would also make the gb break up, the only bait I want the roach to pick up is on my hook.

I am doing a bit of roach fishing at the moment so this is an interesting thread for me as I am always looking for some tips and hints to improve things.

Are you saying that you dont put any loose feed in at all either ? i.e your just feeding neat ground bait and your not then spraying maggots (or whatever hookbait it is ) after to ensure the only bait they see is the one on the hook ?

I must say that when I am fishing for bigger Roach, I tend to just feed neat bread as Ray mentioned. When I am "pleasure" fishing for a bag of roach (or whatever comes along) I tend to feed a few balls of ground bait with some hook baits in it and then loose feed hook baits each cast over the top..Perhaps topping up with more groundbait from time to time depending on how the fishing is going.

I am hardly the worlds greatest float or match angler so I am interested in what others are doing.


As a footnote...I also heard about the dark groundbait for Roach to swim over idea. I dont know if it makes a difference & I suppose it cant do any harm....but I could not not really see how I would be making any appreciable differnce to the colour of the bottom unless I was fishing very shallow water and throwing in a huge amount of ground bait. ...but yes I guess I should try it before I knock it...