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Old 04-04-2010, 19:23
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Question Doubled Up Pole Elastic

Hello Everyone,

It has just come to my attention that a lot of anglers seem to be using doubled up pole elastic in thier pole top kits.

What are the advantages and disadvantages to setting up your top kits this way ?

Also, how do you set these doubled up elastics in your top kits, i have an idea of how i think it would be done, i am just seeking other peoples knowledge and perhaps experience in setting them up.

Have you tried it, if not do you think you would be willing to?

Obviously if you don't fish with a pole then perhaps this thread is not for you, but feel free to join in if you feel you can contribute to it.

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Old 04-04-2010, 19:39
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Hi Steph, this started about 2 or 3 years ago. To set it up...
for example doubled up no 5 elastic. Get your wire and thread the laccy through your top 2 - 3 -1. then thread on your connector/stonfo, thread the tag end back through the top and so forming a loop and you end up with two tag ends at the bung end. tie the bung onto both tag ends and trim as necessary.

IMHO another marketing ploy by manufacturers to sell more laccy........

never tried it personally but some swear by it.
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Thanks Peter,

I didn't realise it started so long ago, perhaps i am just so out of touch with fishing and it's Fads.

I spoke to a guy the other week who was using a doubled up Number 4 elastic in his top kit, i didn't really want to pester him on how and why he used it as i didn't want to disturb his fishing.

I thought i might like to give it a try, in say a 4, 5 and 6 as i think that would cover a lot of my fishing.

Thank you for your reply.

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What i thought i would do is, thread a connector on to the elastic, double the elastic over so that it is even lengths, tie an over hand knot in the ends of the elastic so that it forms 1 large loop of elastic, thread this through the top kit and then connect it to the Bung, is this the correct way of doing it?
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Old 04-04-2010, 19:59
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Why not just use a heavier elastic?

I can see that if you double the bottom half you would still get the original "strength" at the top and a "stronger" elastic as the top starts to bottom out, but I dont see the point of doubled all the way thruogh.

In fact if the memory is functioning correctly (not always the case on a sunday evening ) I think there was an article on this very site about pole elasticating that showed a graph of resistance against stretch using a doubled bottom.

I hope this makes sense (not always the case on a sunday evening ).
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Double elastics go back many years, we were doing that with No 8 elastics in the early 90's when it was the biggest one made. These days it is only done with light elastics, No.2's and 3's usually when fishing for small fish but getting the odd bigger one such as a bream. There are elastics for every occasion now and doubled up elastic is strictly for match anglers who know what are going to catch and can't afford to lose fish or play them too long, even the odd one.
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I've seen the double up version you're talking about but never tried it, I'm happy using the older version of a 10" doubled up section at the bung end, makes more sense to me having the power build gradually as the lacy is stretched.
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Just remembered I saw this the other day, the Maver (can I have afree top kit please) Muletto

YouTube- Paste Fishing & Muletto demonstration
Costs about £6 without a topkit.
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Thems old hat, this is what is used now, both my carp top threes have this set up
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I didn't realise it started so long ago,
Like Graham says, many years ago. Keith Arthur used it for many years, perhaps still does.
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The practice of doubling up the No. 8 elastics started in the Irish festivals when they were fishing to hand for bream, it saved time playing the fish especially on the Shannon and the Erne systems. Early doors when it first started being used regularly there weren't any of these carp lakes, well not in the match fishing world there weren't but it worked on our rivers for chub and maybe even the odd small barbel and remember that 11 and 12.5 mtr poles were the norm in those days too. Personally I preferred just the single elastic but I rarely if ever used a pole in river matches, much preferring the traditional stick or waggler.
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