Doing my bit...Or not!!

[mark brailsford 2]

Well I might get some flak for this, but is it really worth me joining the Angling Trust?
I used to be in the ACA years ago but I checked out the membership fees and they seem expensive for what benefits you actually receive from joining.

[barbelboi]

The other way of looking at it is ‘what can I do for the ATr’ if enough anglers joined then their financial clout would certainly enable them to have a much bigger say in what is beneficial for anglers.
Jerry

[bennygesserit]

Or buy two rod licenses and support the EA which isn't a jobs for the boys , money grabbing publicity machine ?

[Jeff Woodhouse]

Originally Posted by bennygesserit

Or buy two rod licenses and support the EA which isn't a jobs for the boys , money grabbing publicity machine ?

Benny, read that article I linked to.

Then again, don't bother.

I'm always been lying same as the Angling Trust, we always do, it's a problem with us.... No one wants to believe us because of it. BTW, it might rain tomorrow somewhere, on my life! What - don't believe me?

Then again, Pondy and his group are doing a really good job for angling as is the EA giving him permission to build his stupid hydro - with your two rod licence fees.

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Originally Posted by mark brailsford 2

I used to be in the ACA years ago but I checked out the membership fees and they seem expensive for what benefits you actually receive from joining.

Mark, a pound a week, just £1 per week, buys you a rod licence and membership of the Angling Trust. Who else is there to fight for your rights? Name one other organisation....... please?

[bennygesserit]

Originally Posted by Jeff Woodhouse

Benny, read that article I linked to.

Then again, don't bother.

I'm always been lying same as the Angling Trust, we always do, it's a problem with us.... No one wants to believe us because of it. BTW, it might rain tomorrow somewhere, on my life! What - don't believe me?

Then again, Pondy and his group are doing a really good job for angling as is the EA giving him permission to build his stupid hydro - with your two rod licence fees.

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Mark, a pound a week, just £1 per week, buys you a rod licence and membership of the Angling Trust. Who else is there to fight for your rights? Name one other organisation....... please?

Yes I will read it Jeff

[Terry D]

Why do anglers think "what do I get out of it" when thinking of joining the AT. Anglers should join because the AT is the only body fighting for angling and angler's rights to fish. FULL STOP.
Nobody else is going to fight for you and especially, if you don't fund them financially in some form or another. Get over it and cough up if you want to go fishing, both now and in the future.

[Eric Edwards]

Originally Posted by bennygesserit

Or buy two rod licenses and support the EA which isn't a jobs for the boys , money grabbing publicity machine ?

That's a disgraceful remark. The Angling Trust are the only representation you have at national level. They are currently carrying out the national angling survey - gathering information that will impact on the quality of angling for years to come, they are the lead body in developing coaches and coaching, getting youngsters involved in the sport, only yesterday, when Midlands Today screened a misleading article on swans and lead poisoning the AT were straight onto it.
The AT had troubles when they were first formed but they are steadily overcoming them and in my view they are doing a great job. They are lobbying parliament and taking action over such things as predation, poaching, water abstraction, hydro power schemes, pollution.

Try investigating what the AT are doing before your next throwaway comment.

[bennygesserit]

Originally Posted by Eric Edwards

That's a disgraceful remark. The Angling Trust are the only representation you have at national level. They are currently carrying out the national angling survey - gathering information that will impact on the quality of angling for years to come, they are the lead body in developing coaches and coaching, getting youngsters involved in the sport, only yesterday, when Midlands Today screened a misleading article on swans and lead poisoning the AT were straight onto it.
The AT had troubles when they were first formed but they are steadily overcoming them and in my view they are doing a great job. They are lobbying parliament and taking action over such things as predation, poaching, water abstraction, hydro power schemes, pollution.

Try investigating what the AT are doing before your next throwaway comment.

Are the salaries that the ATr pay themselves published ? Try investigating what the ATr are really doing before your next comment ? What does the money go on ? Why is the membership so low ? Don't give me the same old apathy nonsense , the vast majority are not memebers for soem reason , one of which might be apathy or it might be that they see no need for the AT or that they disagree with their views on otters for instance or they see a lot of the ATr as a con , as a job creation scheme and would raher keep their money to themselves.

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Aaah I see one of their proposals - "what we would do if we had more money" is to start making television programmes , I wonder who would be staring in those then ?

[Eric Edwards]

I think the membership is so low because there are too many people carping from the sidelines instead of doing things to get involved and help out. Too many who want to find a downside and ignore the upsides, too many who are looking for an excuse not to put their hand in their pocket and support our sport.
I'm a member and I get contacted by the ATr maybe three or four times a week either informing me of what the trust is doing, asking for my help as a coach or a member or alerting me to a problem that needs member action. I was contacted by the ATr three times yesterday alone and I'm in no doubt that the organisation is working hard for me.

The comment about otters is daft. There's a wide range of differing opinion within angling and it doesn't matter what stance the ATr takes someone is going to dissatisfied with it.

Salaries? What's yours? Is it published?

[bennygesserit]

Originally Posted by Eric Edwards

I think the membership is so low because there are too many people carping from the sidelines instead of doing things to get involved and help out. Too many who want to find a downside and ignore the upsides, too many who are looking for an excuse not to put their hand in their pocket and support our sport.
I'm a member and I get contacted by the ATr maybe three or four times a week either informing me of what the trust is doing, asking for my help as a coach or a member or alerting me to a problem that needs member action. I was contacted by the ATr three times yesterday alone and I'm in no doubt that the organisation is working hard for me.

The comment about otters is daft. There's a wide range of differing opinion within angling and it doesn't matter what stance the ATr takes someone is going to dissatisfied with it.

Salaries? What's yours? Is it published?

Its not a very cogent argument to say my point about otters is daft , neither the point that simply saying people who don't want to join because they don't want to get involved, with that point you have simply repeated back what I said in my previous post ?

As for salaries my point was that if I joined the Trust then I would want to know where my money was going.

What would happen if everyone bought 2 licenses I believe that money goes directly to benefit the angling environment rather than pay someone to have a jolly while making a film , or claim business class travel expenses.

On the point of expenses do any of you who are exhorting us to join , in such an evangelical and frankly often insulting way , know how much of your money goes on that ?