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    When out yesterday my attention was drawn to large fish moving around about 30 yards down stream. My first thoughts that it was a large pike but the flanks of the fish were too deep and were very bright in the sun. A quick walk down revealed several large barbel very active in the water turning on their sides and also showing the whites of their undersides. They appeared to be preoccupied with catching foodstuffs at mid water and turning their mouths to face upstream. They carried this on for some time and were unperturbed by my casts or the line in the water. Infact i was constantly getting liners. A static bait didn't work they seemed very preoccupied.
    Although I have read of this behavior this is the first time that i have witnessed it and seen barbel so active.This was all happening within 12 foot of me.
    My first thoughts for my return are to feed and get them preoccupied prior to putting a bait in and secondly to use smaller baits ie maggot or corn.
    how would you guys approach such a situation>
    I did get an immediate take from a "nuisance chub" of about 4lb on meat but not a touch from the big uns!

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    John,
    I was gonna post almost the same question, why do they roll and show the whites of their bellies?
    Are they waving/hitting their bodies against the gravel in a rolling motion to create a disturbance to throw up any loose feed and therefore show their undersides?
    I'm sure they're not spawning as they were scoffing small pellets.

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    John,

    I would float fish on the drop with something small like casters or tares and see if you get a responce !

    Steve,

    It's well documented that presured fish aprroach beds of bait with caution. I have certaly witnesed barbel flashing and wafting fins over beds of bait to see how it reacts. Anything that is nailed to the bottom is well and truly ignorerd the rest hoovered up. The way i get round this is to use a swowman rig. Half a normal boile and half a pop up couterbalances the the wait of hook and hook link and leaves it to behave more naturally. A slightly longer hair also helps this.


    Hope this helps and good luck !

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    Hi Steve
    They were doing just as you say, perhaps they were dislodging larvae from the gravel. They were obviously enjoying themselves!
    Very exciting to watch themlike this . Cant wait to have another go at them

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    Chris
    the thought did cross my mind about running a float through or even stret pegging. Maybe next time.
    Bits of meat that floated through were totally ignored. Trigga paste was also ignored which is normally a quick take.
    Smaller baits are needed here i think

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    Hi John,
    Yep I was mesmerised and they were having the loose fed pellets big time, it was a joy to watch!

    Thanks Chris, the problem was, it was a very fast shallow swim (two foot deep?)
    The gravel bed was upstream of a large overhanging bush, we saw two chub and fed some pellets. The barbs came out from under the bush and whent mad on it. If I fished a snowman would it look un-natural, it would rise and fall, but not travel downstream, as a normal bait would do?

    Sorry John, tell me to ****** off, I don't want to take over your thread.
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    Steve,
    yes you are right it will not go down stream but will waft side to side so will settle in a slightly different position every time giving a better presentation. I agree its not perfect but nothing ever is !! If you want to use pellets as a bait use a real one with a fake floater or some people use bits of cork on there hair or on the shank of the hook all work. It takes a bit of messing but a criticaly balnced bait will more fish on the bank i promise you. if all else fails get them going mad for the pellets then roll a big slug or worm past them Ill be shocked if they ignore that!

    Chris.

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    Although I've only seen this a few times on a smaller scale my first ploy would be to see if I could get them to feed on some freebies. Obviously you've already tried that but I would persevere. It's amazing how fishes feeding behaviour changes over time. Sometimes, this has taken me many days but the information gained may well be of value the rest of your fishing career, so be patient.

    Assuming you can get them feeding step two is to get a hookbait to behave in the same way as the freebies while making sure the fish don't know that you're fishing for them. If they suss you out their guard can go up and they'll become so much more difficult to catch - at least for a while.

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    Chris,
    They backed off under the bush after two were caught, I managed to trundle a 14m/m under the bush with one swan shot,but lost the BIG ******.
    I will defo try the critical balancing bait, cheers.

    Steve.

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    Cheers Matt,
    See you soon.

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