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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich Frampton View Post
    Colin, you appear to have the ability to start a row in a dark room on your own.


    What row?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich Frampton View Post
    Colin, you appear to have the ability to start a row in a dark room on your own.
    Quite possibly Rich, but not on this occasion; this is a difference of opinion. I don't think perch fight especially hard, Simon and Jerry believe they do....... Same as a few on FM say bream pull back hard; I don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbelboi View Post
    Have you ever used a GTI SU Colin?
    No, not as yet, what am I missing out on?

    Currently I use a Fox Avon 0.75lb test rod for most of my chub fishing (I'd have said its perfect for big perch too?) and a 2lb test Greys Prodigy for tench, barbel and bream, it is a soft/forgiving 2lb test though.
    I am open to suggestions, but I do struggle to understand how one rod can offer both a 0.75lb and a 1.75lb action?????

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    Fella's ....please ...no more. I'm losing the will to live!

    Any more and I'll be forced to lock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cg74 View Post
    but I do struggle to understand how one rod can offer both a 0.75lb and a 1.75lb action????
    I'm not sure how relevant test curves are!

    I used that rod to catch small silvers and net chub/roach, never bumped one, size 16 and 2lb hooklength. I've not caught a lump on it yet, but a mate caught a 10lb + float fished carp on his with 6 or 8lb line straight through, he never felt he was out of control.

    In the workshop the rod builder pulled it to 7lb on a spring balance, I thought it might break, yet he tells me he has pulled it through to 15lb on a previous occasion.

    Now I have no idea what the test curve of that rod is, but it does do those jobs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluenose View Post

    In the workshop the rod builder pulled it to 7lb on a spring balance, I thought it might break, yet he tells me he has pulled it through to 15lb on a previous occasion.

    Now I have no idea what the test curve of that rod is, but it does do those jobs!
    That Kev Bains confuses the hell out of me as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluenose View Post
    Fella's ....please ...no more. I'm losing the will to live!

    Any more and I'll be forced to lock.

    ---------- Post added at 20:42 ---------- Previous post was at 20:09 ----------



    I'm not sure how relevant test curves are!

    I used that rod to catch small silvers and net chub/roach, never bumped one, size 16 and 2lb hooklength. I've not caught a lump on it yet, but a mate caught a 10lb + float fished carp on his with 6 or 8lb line straight through, he never felt he was out of control.

    In the workshop the rod builder pulled it to 7lb on a spring balance, I thought it might break, yet he tells me he has pulled it through to 15lb on a previous occasion.

    Now I have no idea what the test curve of that rod is, but it does do those jobs!
    Isn't this what's called a progressive action type rod, where it gets stronger as it curves into the butt? I'm sure a mate of mine had one with a very soft top section, but kicked into considerable strength for bigger fish when playing them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon K View Post
    Isn't this what's called a progressive action type rod, where it gets stronger as it curves into the butt? I'm sure a mate of mine had one with a very soft top section, but kicked into considerable strength for bigger fish when playing them?
    All rods get stronger as they curve 'into the butt', but more often than not 'getting stronger' means the rod has 'locked up', ie, the tube has reached its full curve and collapsed as far as it can and the rod has become solid. Many anglers confuse 'locking up' with the rod becoming stronger.

    At this point the angler can still exert a lot more pressure on the line before the rod breaks, but the problem is that the rod no longer has any shock absorber effect and you are effectively playing the fish off the reel.

    Which is exactly why it's important to properly marry rods and lines and not use a line that is too light for a rod, nor one that is too heavy, as both will lead to breakages.

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    PS: And another reason why a through-action rod, one that will bend from tip to butt, is better for playing fish than a rod with most of its action in the tip.

    Rod design is always a compromise; they're either built for casting or built for playing. The middle ground is just a compromise between the two and ideal for none.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titus View Post
    That Kev Bains confuses the hell out of me as well.
    Tell me about it. Perch session this morning.....

    3lb chub on a size 16 with light hooklink (double pinkie intended for gudgeon)
    1 x gudgeon (2x no 4 float cast 15 metres or so)
    19lb pike caught on said gudgeon

    The rod just didn't feel 'wrong' for any of those fish.

    To be continued.

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    6 pages later, a few detours off track and still only heard of 1 new venue on the Wye. Are there any other venues on the Wye that members may wish to add?

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    New venue?

    But there's a 3500-hit thread on another site at the moment about a big, in the comics, Sussex (?) fish...

    Swim, please (as I need the glory but am totally unprepared to put in the footwork and scouting and figuring and hours of non-catching); I want it NOW.

    Reminds of the rude-boy Richard Heads (I used to fish with a real one on the Kennet thirty years ago, a lovely man) who were chasing me all over the Internet and the streets of outer West London about a Colne fish I'd found and caught (thrice, with suitable, several months-long breaks between my efforts) for several years until not that long ago.
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