Feeder weights vs rod weights

[harticuz90]

Hello,

New to the forum so I do apologise if i post any stupid posts but keen to learn,

I have a question that is bugging me, Ive noticed on method feeders or cage feeders they have weight in grams, some of the feeders for example are 85g or 113g or even a lot less at 28g.
Does that mean if you have a Feeder rod at 60g that a 85g method feeder is way to heavy especially when loaded with groundbait or extra particles etc?

Any help is appreciated,

Thanks

 

[Peter Jacobs]

This might help you . . . . .

http://sportdemo03.24.testsider.dk/log/pdf/ddbait-download-158.pdf

 

[sam vimes]

Casting weights on rods are usually a guide rather than an absolute. However, the more you exceed the guide weights, and the more you attempt to push the distance being cast, the greater the chance of damaging the rod. You can usually get away with exceeding the rod's rating a little, but you usually have to go gently when casting.

An unloaded method feeder coming in at 85g sounds rather large to me, getting on for a full 3oz unloaded. I'd suspect that it must be one aimed squarely at out and out specimen carp tactics, not general quiver tip rod work. I'd want a carp rod of 2.5lb test curve, or probably greater, to cast such a feeder properly.

The Drennan range gives a fair representation of the order of weights that I'd expect to see in a method feeder intended for general stillwater coarse fishing. I'd suggest that anything greater than 60g is a little more specialised and will need rods of a different order to use effectively.

 

[harticuz90]

Hello Sam thanks for the info.

Just trying to clear this one up, for example if printed on the rod 60g does this mean I cant use a large feeder at 80g as it will be too heavy bearing in mind this is an empty feeder so with extra groundbait would be come heavier on the other hand a feeder at 45g empty would be okay to cast?

 

[sam vimes]

Just trying to clear this one up, for example if printed on the rod 60g does this mean I cant use a large feeder at 80g as it will be too heavy bearing in mind this is an empty feeder so with extra groundbait would be come heavier on the other hand a feeder at 45g empty would be okay to cast?

You can use what you like, but the more you push the envelope, the greater the chance of damaging the rod. However, just because you have a rod rated at 60g does not mean that casting a 60g feeder, that's well in excess of 60g fully loaded with bait, is a particularly good idea. The bottom line is that really big feeders require the use of heavier rods. The average feeder/quiver tip rod is not really meant for chucking feeders that will be of the order of 3-4oz plus when fully loaded.

However, using such heavy feeders shouldn't be required unless you are fishing at extreme ranges on stillwaters or in heavy flows on bigger rivers.

 

[harticuz90]

Cheers Sam ??????

 

[ben10]

I’d also add that if you cast feeders or leads that weigh up around the rated casting weight of the rod say a 60g loaded feeder on a rod rated to 60g then you probably won’t break the rod but over time with constant use you may soften the blank. I like to use loaded feeders and leads slightly under a rods rated casting weight so that I’m not pushing the blank to its limit. All rods soften over time but hopefully by staying within its limits comfortably you can prolong the action of the rod.