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    Default Line capacity question

    I've just picked up a nice second hand bargain, a Shakespeare Powerplay reel, boxed, spare handle, and 3 spools.
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    The original price sticker, £53, is still on the box.
    I noticed that the two spare spools were shallow, I assumed the spool on the reel with line on would be deeper.
    The spools are marked 120 metres of 3lb 0.17.
    I'm planning on loading one spool with 3.1 kg 0.20 line, I'm guessing at most I will get 100 metres on if spooled up to the rim. Do people think this is safe to use? I normally use 200 metres plus on deeper spools. I just like knowing I have line to play with if hooking something big.
    Am I worrying unnecessarily?

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    Default Re: Line capacity question

    HOW BIG? Come on, most of my reels I load with 75metres at most and trotting reels/centrepins with just 50metres. The only rods that get more are carp rods and there I judge the length of lake or width of water as I have had carp rip 100yds off my spool, but that is rare.
    These spools will probably hold 100metrs of 0.20mm line, but my thoughts are you would just waste 100metres of line as backing if they were any deeper.
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    Default Re: Line capacity question

    Thanks. I'm just used to using deeper spools and more line. Never been sure how much I've actually played out.
    Sorry if it seemed a daft question!
    Got an image of hitting into a big carp, then beginning to see my knot on the spool.

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    Most things big enough to strip that amount of line will make you wish you had twice or more the strength line anyway. Don’t worry about it unless you are trying to cast to the horizon in the first place.

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    Default Re: Line capacity question

    Line manufacturers want you to put 300 yards or so on a spool so they sell more. I like spool reducers for this reason and only Shimano seem to supply them. Shallow spools are great and are supplied on Drennan and Abu reels.

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    Default Re: Line capacity question

    It’s not a daft question at all. The majority of my fishing is close in on shallow lakes or my local river which is little more than a stream nowadays. I often have little more than 30 to 50m of line loaded.

    However I must remember to change reels or spools when fishing Stonar lake which goes up to 75ft deep in places and is vast, using relatively light tackle I like to have between 100 to 150m of line on the spool for peace of mind when the big carp gate crash the swim.

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    Default Re: Line capacity question

    Things just become a habit, I've only ever used deeper spools, put a bit of tape on for backing but stick on 200m of line.
    I've honestly never really noticed or thought about how much has ever been stripped off on larger waters.
    The shallow spools just looked....shallow! I would never have put that much backing on a deeper spool.
    Thanks for replying, I've never thought about how much line I put on, or how much other people use, now I know!

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    Default Re: Line capacity question

    My stradic came with spool reducers and I fitted them to one spool. So convinced was i that they were too thick leaving very little room for line, that I posted on here.Sam Vimes put me right and sure enough I still managed to spool at least 100 m of 5lb line. I have used the other set on the spare spool and bought some for my Aero 4000 reels.

    Shorter distances are much easier and quicker to remove when you fancy a change of line.

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    Default Re: Line capacity question

    Quote Originally Posted by d.owens View Post
    Sorry if it seemed a daft question!
    No, it's not a daft question at all. I was just surprised by your statement that you may catch a big fish that may strip lots of line off your spool.

    A lot of anglers can't judge distance for one thing. I had an angler once casting into the middle of one of our lakes saying it was a cast of over 120 yards and yet the lake is only 100 metres +/- (109 yards) measured at it's widest point.

    Somewhere on this site I have articles where I have the calculations for how many turns roughly to put on a spool and it's all to do with Pi (3.14). Get the diameter of your spool, say 40mm, times by 3.14 (Pi), then times by the bail arm ratio to one turn of the handle, say 5 -1. That example would give you 0.628 of a metre per turn of handle. Then if you want 75 metres, divide that by your 0.628 and that gives you 120 turns of the handle (119.42 to be more precise) or 160 turns for 100metres. But if you can't turn a fish with 75 metres of line, then as someone has said, use a much stronger line and rod. Unless you are targeting carp at a distance, then 100-150 metres would be quite reasonable.

    Seeing as I buy most of my lines in bulk, 1000metres, or larger spools of 150 - 250 metres, I use this method so I can get multiple fillings from a spool. Example, I just bought a spool of 'floating line' (it says) to try that has 250m on it and it should do 5 fillings of a trotting reel at 50m per time. At £4 it makes it 80p a load, cheap as chips. Don't feed the line manufacturers!
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    Default Re: Line capacity question

    As has already been said,it's certainly not a daft question,what you must remember it wasn't that long ago float fishing was done with 2-3lbs bs line,100yds is plenty,when you load up with say 5/6lb line 99.9% of the time it will be plenty,most anglers on this site would prefer to have a spool capacity of around 100yds,maximum of 150 I would think,it's only specialist anglers who have to cast extreme distances who might need more.

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