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Thread: Lazy Angling?

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    Frothey Guest

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    Ok, you turn up to a new lake.....you can see where the fish are, so forgoe the marker, have a lead around and find a couple of spots. what do you then do, cast out the rigs that are already on the rod or make something up that you feel suits better?
    do you go for something you have confidence in, even though it might not be quite right?
    or dont you think it really matters - feeding fish'll pick up anything eventually?

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    Warren 'Hatrick' (Wol) Gaunt Guest

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    "feeding fish'll pick up anything eventually"

    Maybe eventually but in cicumstances where 'you can see where the fish are' then ur half way there its just a case of adapting to the situation, reading it right and setting your approach for 'that situation'. No good fishing hard on when the fish are having it off the top is it......or is it?

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    EC Guest

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    Could be contraversial!

    I chuck out what I have got made up, unless its really silty, then I make one of them silt rig thingeos!

    I reckon that fish will eventually pick anything up if its been there long enough!

    I always remember an article by Rod Hutchison who reckoned if I remember rightly, words to the effect, that the average match anglers were better anglers than average carp anglers!

    His point being that match anglers tried alsorts within a short space of time, fished at a point effectively chosen for them at the wrong time of day, and became really sharp as a result!

    Whereas some carp anglers relied on a prolonged length of time in order to achieve their result!

    If this is a wrong summary of your words Mr H I apologise but I did buy 'The Carp Strikes Back'.

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    The Monk Guest

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    I think Jim Gibbinson summed it up perfectly when he said "in no other sport does time substitute skill" and yes Eddie, your average match angler is more skilled without doubt, and i`m not nor have i ever been a match angler, but to be fair they often fish outside the feeding periods and in swims which they do not choose!

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    Moody Malc Guest

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    It depends on what you mean when you say "you can see where the fish are" Frothey.

    As Wol says, it really depends on the situation. If you see them on the surface, you fish accordingly. If you have climbed a tree and can see them over a gravel bar, but probably a few feet deep. Or possibly you see them boshing at distance.

    Each scenario calls for a different aproach and therefore possibly a different rig for each.

    Personally I tend to have rigs already on made-up rod - two that I can use generally and one that I can use for pop-ups - possibly off the lead. There a few situations covered, and I always have a variety of hooklengths made up in a wallet so, with quick change links, its easy and quick to change rigs to suit!

    Feeding fish may take one's bait eventually, but I mostly fish overnighters, I therefore have to make a bit of effort in an attempt to winkle one out, as opposed to baiting and waiting!

    If any of that sense?

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    Moody Malc Guest

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    Correction: "If any of that makes sense?"

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    Wolfman Woody Guest

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    How could I, an absolute beginner compaired with the Froth, comment.

    Except to say - you see them - on the bottom say - on a gravel bar - and if you see them they're within 30 yards or so. Get out the marker (or carp float) rod and rig up a Polaris float and the smallest weights you need to sink the float. Don't do a bolt rig, live dangerously with a float as I did once and had a 15lber out of a difficult situation.

    Keep an opern mind.

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    Frothey Guest

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    didnt mean necessarily on the top....bubbling, fish in the margins, rolling fish....

    i know someone that uses 1 type of rig. to use pop ups, he just bungs on a shot. rig length is whatever it ends up as, and he changes hooks when they rust off. he does catch, but i think he'd catch so much more if he thought about it more......

    mind you, so long as he's happy!

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    It's a good question and my answer would be dependant on the company. If there's a couple of us fishing then I'd opt for splitting the fish and what I mean by this is i'd place my left hand rod on the money and my fishing buddy would share that swim with his right. That being said I would still adapt my rigs to the situation.

    If on my own then yes I'd cast to the fish with possibly two rods with two seperate set-ups with perhaps a bottom bait on one and a pop-up on the other. I wouldn't bait heavily just a single bait or double over the top of a pelleted PVA bag. I wouldn't really want to disturb the swim if fish were boshing out all over the place but would probably try a cast or two to get an undertsnading of the bottom make up and then change my rigs to suit.

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    Frothey Guest

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    "but would probably try a cast or two to get an undertsnading of the bottom make up and then change my rigs to suit"

    thats the point i was trying (badly) to make - how many people use the same rig in silt/silkweed/over gravel when they might be missing out?
    will a rig "designed" for bottom baits give an efficient hooking arrangement with a pop-up?
    or does it really matter - the fish in a lot of lakes just arent that clued up and they'll eventually get caught anyway. fine if you are there for days...but not if you're there for a couple of hours....

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