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GrahamM

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I think it's mainly an age thing Stuart, in that youngsters can't wait for anything. Instant everything, including success.
 
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Stuart Johnson

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I think you are an opinionated******** just like me. A good article and to be honest I share your opinions on this one. Life in general is stressfull enough and I do not want stress creeping in to my fun. I fish because I like it, I like the company and I like catching fish. I generally fish for big fish that the water holds so how big is big it all depends on where you fish so the largest might not be the best. But if I do not catch a biggy, hey what the hell. People who are hell bent from the word go on catching the largest going will have short angling career. As you said peak to early what are you going to do if you do not have the right perpective on things.
 
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Dave Johnson

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I was just wondering how many photos you can get of the same carp on a spreadsheet....wearing the same vest top....



sneaks off........
 
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Dave Johnson

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lol....and Barney knows where to get his 'cat' livies from now......
 
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Dave Johnson

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still working on a pass for Friday Stu.....what time you fishing til?



(hijacks Stu's yawn.......thread)
 
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Stuart Johnson

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All depends on what's being caught, but it will not be early as its a long drive and I don't whant to fight the friday free for all on the roads
 

Stuart Dennis

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no stu, don't post them, no, no, no. I had three thoughts for you Dave, but all too rude to put on here mate. The least rude was mentioning how much you didn't raise for our charity compo, but whilst you continue to send me superb porn then I won't stoop that low. Wahaaa!
 
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Sascha Welsch

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I don't think it is so much of an age thing Graham, more of a 'sign of the times' thing.
Years ago (I'm 31 now, so can relate to Stuart!)when I started my fishing apprenticeship the tackle, venues and information weren't so freely available as they are for the beginners of today.
Think how easy it is to buy the latest 'trendy' gear, get down to a commercial venue, put on the ready-made rig and the latest super boilie and eventually a carp will hang itself. Result - instant specimen hunter!
When I think back to my fishing youth and the progression from biteless days through to odd perch/roach to relative consistency of catches and then the start again aspect of match fishing and more recently speci' hunting I realise how easy it has become.
I was chatting to a freind whilst zandering the other night about a colleague of his who has all the tackle, all the bait and none of the knowledge. Put him on a feature filled pit or heaven forbid a river, and he would'nt have a clue as to how to catch. But once that 15lber hung itself it was treated with contempt as it wasn't a 20.
Maybe I'm a bit old fashioned for my age but I take as much pleasure at extracting a 5lb tench from a local drain (Fens!) as I do an 8lber from the mature gravel pit down the road. I still get just as excited to see that jack pike hurl itself clear of the water at my surface lure as I do when the deadbait float slips away on a thirties water.
Fishing is about self satisfaction, about being at one with nature around you and getting away from the mad rat-race that most of us live day to day. If that can be shared with like minded anglers and a few laughs can be had along the way then so much the better.
Yes, I do like to catch bigger fish and increase my personal bests but I don't expect it to come easily and would never dismiss the pleasures I get from fishing through my ambitions.
Good on you Stuart.
 
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Dave Rothery

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People who want the instant success dont tend to last - look at the amount of "full set ups" for sale in the mags/ebay. Mind you, it was the same around the time of "the hair" (not yet 30 and can remember side hooking!!) lots of people thought they were good anglers as all of a sudden fish were throwing themselves at the rods. as the fish wised up, catches dwindled and they had nothing to fall back on, and they gave up. I(like most of us?) started fishing streams, and worked my way through, working it out for myself(or not) whereas its all handed on a plate these days. Its a bit like trout fishing. I gave that up when people started using "trout pellet" flies and stocking in double figure fish. didnt seem like a challenge, and thats what we're all after?
 

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Whilst driving into work today (takes about an hour) I was aimlessly wandering off into my memory bank and trying to think of when my very first fishing adventure took place and what exactly kicked off this obsessional apprenticeship. I always remembered when I was six, sitting on the lakes bank at Glouster Park in Basildon, Essex. I remember sitting there with my six foot white glass boat rod, size one barbed hook filled right to the brim with maggots. Those were the days matey. But looking back even further, I realised exactly what it was that’s kept me hooked to fishing for all these years and that was going ‘newting’, with a lolly stick as a float, cotton with a worm tied on. Just thought I’d share that with you. The rest, I’ve learnt bit by bit each day, each year.

Long Live the ‘King Crester’!
 
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ian jay

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I used to be a club bailiff - checking tickets, cleaning banks, etc, (and getting little thanks for it!). I used to carry a few old floats, and some barbless hooks tied to nylon which I would use to replace the sea fishing terminal tackle that the local lads used on the local canal.

I found that if you could get them catching fish, no matter how small, it prevented them getting bored and causing 'problems'. Further, they soon developed handling skills, etc, which would hold them in good stead for the rest of their fishing careers.

If more anglers helped the young, I am sure there would be less problems.
 
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Dave Rothery

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They'll only take advice if your gears better than theirs.......god i'm turning into one of those old gits i used to ignore!!
 
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Fred Bonney

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Like Stuart, my fishing or newting started in the local pond and progressed from there.
I can remember the days fishing for roach with hemp in the Essex gravel pits and the thrill of getting the occasional 3or4lb carp take me for a trip around,but I have to say I never have in my 40+ years purposely fished for carp,but have caught them by accident up to 14 1/2lb.
That was until last Friday,I was invited to fish an estate lake in a charity match.Now,I'm not a match fisherman so I stuck to my usual waggler approach with a big hook and relatively speaking, a big bait hoping for Tench or maybe Bream.
Anyway as I expected,this did not give me a great deal of success and people around me were pulling out tiddlers,as you would expect in a match.
Carp were crashing about all morning,so in the last hour, rather than scale down my tackle,I scaled up to go after the carp,with my baitrunner and braid to a size 4.
I had a tin of spam in the bag so hair rigged a good sized chunk.Within minutes the baitrunner was screaming and I had a heart thumping battle adjacent to snags with a 7lb pasty.
I caught a couple more after that, but, my heart was thumping in anticipation in the way it felt fishing for Barbel/Chub at Adams Mill last season.
So,to the point,I think I will continue to fish the way I've always fished,that is hoping for the big one, but, I think it's the hope,or the anticipation that keeps me going.I am sure that feeling would not happen,if I was to go out expecting to get the big one.
Oh yes, I came second in the match!
 
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The Monk

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Three carp rods for sale, complete with big pit reels, bedchair and bivvy ?500 or will swop for washing machine! you see it all the time, whats always puzzed me though is why would anyone want a washing machine?
 
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Dave Rothery

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We seem to be blaming the young, but all ages are just as bad. One "older gentleman" last week was casting over me to some islands about 100yds away. After the 3rd crack off(on the trot) i made a polite(ish) enquiry as to what the f*?% he was doing. he replied "casting to where the fish are" as if i was stupid(which i may be, but he didn't know that) now thats fine, but i had had one since he started, and there were fish head&shouldering about 40yds out in front. when i asked why he didn't move down the bank, closer to the islands, he replied he didn't want to spook them (islands about 50 yds out) and anyway, you catch more at long range. didn't seem that bothered about leaving 3 rigs out either "safety rigs" he said
 
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Dave Rothery

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On that point......
Fishing at Linear Manor a couple of weeks ago(check the report-had to get that one in!!) i reeled in a rig using a fox spigot lead (like the nash topliners). the only thing was you could see where the lead had been squeezed around the spigot. not very safe is it? also it had about 60yds of 20lb plus braid, so even if the fish managed to shed the lead, it could still be tethered. My point is that if you are going to use braid (which i do) you should put a "weak spot" in it. In my case, i use a 30ft 17lb nylon leader which works in two ways. firstly it acts as a buffer when the fish are under the rod tip, but also i know that if i do get snagged, this will break, not the braid, so at most its only 30ft, not potentially 100+yds of non perishing braid.
 
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