Hemp & tares & bloody dace !

[S-Kippy]

Skippy it was meant in a lighthearted way and I trust it was taken as such.

Of course Graham...I really would be a grumpy old man if I couldn't have recognised that

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skippy

does it have to be hemp and tares? the reason I ask is cos a mate of mine just got back from a boating holiday on the thames... he wasn't going to be fishing seriously and so could only pick up some supermarket bait... and was then really surprised to start catching really good quality roach on sweetcorn. Just waggler fishing a foot off bottom (though most of the fish came on the drop)... nothing under 10oz or so, but nothing over a pound. Better than inch long chublets!!

No,it doesn't have to be H&T Jim but the old roach do like a tare.I had pondered the corn and I think I must try that too.

They're not chublets either...they are proper clonking dace.

 

[flightliner]

Flight get a spool of Kryston leadcore braid and take the leadcore out
PS or Korda

That thought had occured to me Spiders and I looked at my old lead cored flyline but it was (again) too thin and assumed that all cored lines would be the same but I will try as you so helpfully suggest. Mny thanks for the nudge!

 

[alan whittington]

S-kippy,have you tried stewed wheat,or even pellet,as ive read articles by the man and wife team,Bill and Virginia Rushmer on the lower end of the river catching good bags of roach and dace on them,the bites should be better on both baits.

 

[S-Kippy]

Pellet certainly works but the bites are just as quick.

 

[The fishing coach]

A few years ago, when I used to fish the Lower Thames from a boat, it was possible to buy tins of black sweetcorn (Van Den Eynde, I think). This worked very well on the hook in conjunction with loose fed hemp, I haven't seen it for years though!

 

[peter crabtree]

I remember that corn. The problem was the label did not state what colour it was.....
Imagine my shock when I turned up at a venue and opened the tin of corn and it was green.
There was orange, black and red and of course yellow.
It was much harder in texture to supermarket corn and stayed on the hook well on a long chuck..............
I have often dyed corn red or black using food dye. Black corn can be a winner on the right day...........

 

[Rodney Wrestt]

I remember that corn, I think it was Pescaviva or something like that?

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Just had a look, yep, it was

 

[Jim Crosskey 2]

No,it doesn't have to be H&T Jim but the old roach do like a tare.I had pondered the corn and I think I must try that too.

They're not chublets either...they are proper clonking dace.[/QUOTE]


Fair enough Skippy. I used to fish a very small tributary of the thames, the ock in my hometown. Occasionally you'd find a big shoal of dace and you could whip them up to boiling by throwing in half a dozen maggots evry twenty or thirty seconds for a while... however, put a baited hook in amongst this apparent frenzy and you'd be amazed at how the bait would be grabbed and then let go by the fish, I guess they're just very sensitive to anything feeling "wrong" about a bait and that's when they spit it.

Having managed a couple of clonking dace, I can appreciate why you want to catch them, they punch well above their weight IMO, better than a chub of a similar size. Really beautiful fish too.

 

[alan whittington]

One thing i forgot to say is,that when dace were the match fish at Kingston and Richmond,a lot of the good weights were caught by counting,rather than watching the float,say count to ten after casting in,then up or down to get the best catch rate,worth a go,i would certainly try it if it happens again mate.

 

[S-Kippy]

Yes...I remember those days. I had a few goes and it did my head in.If this is going the same way then I will swiftly go elsewhere.

 

[alan whittington]

Yes...I remember those days. I had a few goes and it did my head in.If this is going the same way then I will swiftly go elsewhere.

Oh......how about the pole,lol.

 

[S-Kippy]

 

[Poshpaul (Angling Trust and PaSC)]

they are proper clonking dace.

The last time I caught proper clonking dace was on the Kentish Stour, around Canterbury, back in the 80's. Memories!!!

 

[slime monster]

All this Dace talk has got me in the mood to visit the Exe ..

 

[matt1960]

The last time I caught proper clonking dace was on the Kentish Stour, around Canterbury, back in the 80's. Memories!!!

Yes, I remember it all to well, looking down over Vauxhall bridge and seeing a small shoal of dace that all went well over a pound, possibly some record ones in there.
But then the river had a good head of Trout and Roach up to over 3lb.
Like so many rivers in this age, the demise seems permanent.

 

[alan whittington]

Thats true Matt....very true.