I like Gamakatsu hooks Jerry, I have used their trebles and they are top notch and super sharp!!
Best hooks for Barbel/chub?
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I like Gamakatsu hooks Jerry, I have used their trebles and they are top notch and super sharp!!
Yeah, that's the only problem with Kamasan hooks, why do they have to make them that bloody shiny? Love Animals though, great hooks for commercial Carp
chav professor
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Korda size 2 wide gape for bread, meat, cheese paste, locusts, bunches of black crickets.
Drennan super specialists for matching bait to hook in a range of sizes (6 through to 8) e.g. slugs, snails, worm, worm fragments, sweetcorn, bread flake, small bits of meat or cheese paste.
Kamasan patterns for anything smaller - maggots.
Hair rigging? going to try a longer shank hook with rig tubing and shrink tubing to achieve an aggressive turning of the hook. Got some fake bread to try - it looks brilliant!
Oh no, not another Korda fan
Seriously though thanks for that mate.
It's nice to hear from someone who is not scared of big hooks, when I mention size 6s to my friends they go all silly
The bad one
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Mark big hooks for chub are fine when you're fishing on top of the fish and up to 15-20 yards. But when fishing across the Ribble up to 50 yards you get far to many dropouts even with beaked points. And now why I use smaller beaked wide gaped hooks up to 8s max. Virtually eliminated the dropouts by going smaller, 12, 10s.
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Yeah, that's the only problem with Kamasan hooks, why do they have to make them that bloody shiny? Love Animals though, great hooks for commercial Carp
I must addmitt that I used to be put off by the bright shinny colour of animals but in reality it doesn't seem to put the fish off at all, infact it seems to attract them.
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Owner Mutu Light Circle = Bolt rigging with hair rigged baits for chub. Best hook for this method imo.
Drennan Continental Boilie = Big fish, heavy snag work. Also works well with hair rigged baits. Flips over every time without the need for tubing of any kind.
Kamasan B983 Wide Gape = General chubbing hook with baits like meat, flake, crust, cheesepaste.
I prefer beaked points compared to straight point hooks, as I feel that there is less chance of them becoming blunt, or the hook point being turned over on the bottom of the river and in snags. My usual size hook these days is a size 4, with the smallest being a size 6 and the largest being a size 2!
Drennan Continental Boilie = Big fish, heavy snag work. Also works well with hair rigged baits. Flips over every time without the need for tubing of any kind.
Kamasan B983 Wide Gape = General chubbing hook with baits like meat, flake, crust, cheesepaste.
I prefer beaked points compared to straight point hooks, as I feel that there is less chance of them becoming blunt, or the hook point being turned over on the bottom of the river and in snags. My usual size hook these days is a size 4, with the smallest being a size 6 and the largest being a size 2!
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Thanks for the tip mate,
I have just been looking at the super specialist wide gape hooks, are they as good as the standard SS? it would be a lot cheaper buying these than ''named'' carp hooks, some of the newer ones are touching a fiver a pack, its mad
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I've been using the ESP t6's barbless for years with no problems.
Yeah, good hooks by all accounts Fred, I like the pattern, just right for hair rigging...Why cant the general specialist coarse hooks have in-turned eyes?
The B983 looks a good Chub hook?
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Use the same hooks for my chub too, keep it simple!
If it works don't change it.
If it works don't change it.
cg74
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I used to consider selection of the 'correct hook for the exact task as a fairly important factor:
Feeder fishing - Drennan Carbon Feeder (spade ends)
Float fishing with maggots - Drennan Super Spade
Big baits, mounted on or around the hook - Drennan Carbon Specimen hook
Bolt-rigging - Korum S3 or Korda Wide Gape
Now I have gone full circle and only use two styles of hook; for fishing baits on or around the hook, beit maggots, bread, meat, worms or paste, I use what could be described as a wide gape pattern - Drennan Carbon Specimen, Kamasan 983, 982, 980, Kamasan Animal spade end or eyed or if you like barbless - Kamasan 981 and Guru Match Wide Gape.
If fishing pellets or boilies (not bolt-rigging) I mount the bait on the shank with a bait band, the hook is tied using a knotless knot, which ensures the bait stays on the shank and not move to the bend. I use a Kamasan B420 Sedge hook.
As for using size 2 Korda Wide Gapes, I honestly can't see any benefit whatsoever, we're talking about a species that has yet to go 10lbs and that isn't exactly the hardest fighting species.
Each to their own but a catfish hook, nah!!
I know chub will take big baits but does anyone think using huge baits actually increases their catch rate, either in terms of numbers or size?
Regards barbel, fishing baits on or around the hook - Exactly the same as with chub.
Hair-rigged baits - Korum S3's (though I've only got a few left) or Korda Wide Gapes and when they've gone, I'll try the new Korum hooks.
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What in-turned eyes like these: Xpert Power Hook - Korum, Fishing Made Easy
You are aware ESP T6 hooks have straight eyes?
Feeder fishing - Drennan Carbon Feeder (spade ends)
Float fishing with maggots - Drennan Super Spade
Big baits, mounted on or around the hook - Drennan Carbon Specimen hook
Bolt-rigging - Korum S3 or Korda Wide Gape
Now I have gone full circle and only use two styles of hook; for fishing baits on or around the hook, beit maggots, bread, meat, worms or paste, I use what could be described as a wide gape pattern - Drennan Carbon Specimen, Kamasan 983, 982, 980, Kamasan Animal spade end or eyed or if you like barbless - Kamasan 981 and Guru Match Wide Gape.
If fishing pellets or boilies (not bolt-rigging) I mount the bait on the shank with a bait band, the hook is tied using a knotless knot, which ensures the bait stays on the shank and not move to the bend. I use a Kamasan B420 Sedge hook.
As for using size 2 Korda Wide Gapes, I honestly can't see any benefit whatsoever, we're talking about a species that has yet to go 10lbs and that isn't exactly the hardest fighting species.
Each to their own but a catfish hook, nah!!
I know chub will take big baits but does anyone think using huge baits actually increases their catch rate, either in terms of numbers or size?
Regards barbel, fishing baits on or around the hook - Exactly the same as with chub.
Hair-rigged baits - Korum S3's (though I've only got a few left) or Korda Wide Gapes and when they've gone, I'll try the new Korum hooks.
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What in-turned eyes like these: Xpert Power Hook - Korum, Fishing Made Easy
You are aware ESP T6 hooks have straight eyes?
I like the look of the ESP range (well they are Drennan!) and the T-6 looks about the best all-rounder suitable for Barbel, but the new Fox Arma range look very strong! Decisions, Decisions!
mg:Will probably end up sticking with the SS but at the end of the day they have a good track record.
I don't really fish for either species, but if they're on the cards I've found Kamasan B711 and B611 reliable. If ledgering I will use Drennan Super Specialist hooks sizes 10 & 12 but larger if using bread or meat baits - boilies can *u*k off.
sam vimes
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I happily use the Drennan range of small coarse fishing hooks. I also used ESP hooks quite happily for a time. However, I found that the points roll over that bit too easily for my liking. I don't blame anyone for balking at £5+ for a packet of hooks, I do myself. There are always ways and means to find even the branded stuff cheaper.
Been looking at the Drennan SS wide gape and comparing it with the Kamy B983. They are both good hooks IMO The B983 are just a little thinner, both have their uses depending on the bait and method used. think I am going to try both these in various sizes, they are cheap enough!
Good timing this, need to buy some hooks for the Wye next week, At present t6 and g something esp, korda wide gape 2s [Hold big chunks of meat without a hair]. korum for float fishing which are very good and cheap, I have some drennan and kamasan specimin ones left but they dont seem to stay sharp long, brilliant pattern though and still first choice for softer rivers.
As a trundler a huge chunk of meat [8 to the tin] can be used to pull the lead downstream and certainly accounts for numerous chub and barbel. I am not sure how effective they are for static fishing I certainly find small baits more succesfull then.
As a trundler a huge chunk of meat [8 to the tin] can be used to pull the lead downstream and certainly accounts for numerous chub and barbel. I am not sure how effective they are for static fishing I certainly find small baits more succesfull then.
cg74
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I'll be on the Wye next week and looking at this:
BBC Weather : Hereford
This:
Farson Digital Watercams - Hi-def webcam on River Wye, at Hereford
And this:
Environment Agency - River levels station data
It'll feeder fishing with maggots for me, 3 on a size 12 and 2 on a size 14 hook, either a Kamasan 983 or Drennan Carbon Specimen.