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    Went fishing this wednesday at Wrightington lakes (if anyone knows it). Float fished close in on rod, first put I had a common around 4lb then constant lifts, dips and general float activity but no fish....I tried striking at different points i.e float dipping right down, lifting up etc but no fish or bait left on the hook! Day ended with 3 carp, tench, a gudgeon and two roach. I had tried going shallower, deeper, smaller shot near the hook, shot further away from the hook, different baits all with pretty much the same result until, I tried a small hair rigged boilie bit of an off the cuff idea but this seemed to irradicate all the annoying dips, lifts etc. Anyone any ideas what the hell could have been going on??

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    Could be thefish bumping into line as they feed Macca ,or bits pecking at the bait.Try fishing a good couple of feet over depth and try not to have a tight line to the rod.

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    They were line bites, mate, I'm pretty sure.If you had loose fed pellets of hemp then this is even more likely.One method I have seen in this situation is to actually use a float which sits below the surface. Only strike when it lifts out of the water. This method is only really suitable for carp. Alternatively, use a more bouyant float, sit on your hands and wait for a fish to hook itself.

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    Crucians? Possibly try a pole - depends how big those carp and tench are
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    Gav- I thought it might be smaller fish nibbling my bait though seems strange they didnt bother with the boilie, and I sank my line and gave it some slack as well.

    Blunderer-never tried the under the water float method, but as there are tench, skimmers/bream in there would it still work for those? Maybe the more bouyant float would work better.......

    Posh- not actually sure if there are any crucians in there or not, think most of the carp are up to about 10lb not sure on the tench possibly up to 6lb, i fish another water with the same tactics yet I've never had so much float movement without any fish lol

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    Little sideways nudges can be exactly that - fry nutting the float itself - which can drive you quietly barmy until you twig.

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    Don't think they were knocking the float as it was being pulled right down as well as the side to side knocks, maybe i shud have taken my float off put a couple of swan shots on and waited for a run??

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    Or leave the float on, put on a swan-shot and wait for a lift bite?

    At the moment , on my local lake, there are inch-long fry at the surface, four-inch roach below, and - allegedly - an assortment of carp, tench and bream below these. So if they're all singing from the same hymn sheet, you can be getting liners, float nudges, shot-bites and genuine nibbles in no particular order. Pass the Lithium...

    Crucians, ghosties, tench and bream can all gnaw away at a bait for ages, so try a thumbnail-sized lump of meat* and ignore everything except sail-aways and polaris launches. If you miss, leave the next bite longer. Strike gently, so as not to spook fish you miss.

    Some days you have to leave it until you're sure the bare hook must be dangling from the fish's rear end, and still only lip-hook them.

    Don't EVER try this tactic with worm or maggot, something will get deep hooked, probably a perch.

    *At least - my mate catches bream on two one-inch cubes of meat hair-rigged on a #2!

    And don't 'e moan about it...

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    Will give the wait and see approach, obviously there were fish there as I did catch even though I had my doubts over using two medium worms as bait but a carp took a fancy to them late on in the day, I try to stick away from small baits so I don't get pestered to death by small roach all day, ironically I never mind catchinggudgeon......will also give the strike gently approach a go

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    I like to fish places like that with a small piece of quill attatched top and bottom fished well over depth with flaot lying flat with no weights on the line,fish under foot as you are and bites are usually very positive sail aways,you still get the twitches and trembles but proper bites are usully sail away and unmissable,great fun with minimal gear .Big baits are a must though .Might be worth a try Macca.

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