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  1. #41
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    Default Re: If I Had a Hammer....

    I've seen fish react quite differently in different waters. I know one water where knocking posts or stakes in (work party stuff) actually seems to attract the carp. Rattling a fart in a chair will spook them in another. Chub in quiet river stretches are notoriously flighty, it doesn't take much to send them on their way unless they've thrown caution to the wind in a feeding frenzy. Barbel are often nearly as spooky. As a rule of thumb, it makes a lot of sense to avoid any unnecessary noise and vibration on the banks.

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    There is an obvious difference between 'natural' every day noises (trains rolling by, water fowl squabbles) and an angler alerting fish to his/her presence.

    Did I ever tell you about the time my mate (new to angling at the time) strapped a 12" vibrator to his rod when pike fishing.... No?

    Best keep quiet about that then!

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbelboi View Post
    Possibly they're are used to a particular sound from birth together with the fact that this sound is not 'life threatening'? You try making the slightest noise that causes vibration to the ground on the rivers that I fish and your fishing is fecked for a few hours - they may return after a period of 10/20 minutes, or so, but they won't feed for quite a long time after (especially chub)....
    I am not disputing what you say barbelboi simply because I don't know what fecks your swim up but how do you know that it is the vibration or some noise etc that does it....could it possibly be something else like the fish are not feeding for example...which happens very often on rivers like the Trent.

    Don't get me wrong.....I DO believe it is wise to err on the side of caution..to use a well known phrase....and keep noise to a minimum but I am not sure just how detrimental it is towards fishing....and I don't see how anybody else can be either.

    I remember a bloke I used to fish with many, many years ago when we used to fish in places like Pophams Eau, Three Holes, Boston Drains and the like and he was dead against the notion that noise on the bank affected fishing....So much so.....he used to sing as loud as he could and stamp his feet on the ground whilst casting and striking and hooking fish at the same time and he did this for 5 minutes or so and he regularly caught 3 or 4 fish during this "performance"......just to prove his point.

    The fish we are talking about was usually roach and skimmer bream......but the noise certainly never bothered them....why would it bother other species.

    I also remember a miserable, drizzly day at Topcliffe long before it belonged to a syndicate and I banged my 3 or 4 banksticks in as usual and cast towards my favourite spot just under the willow trees on the opposite side. Unfortunately, my feeder dropped very short and dropped into the river only about a third of the way across which was less than 10 meters away from the bank. I was just about to retrieve my feeder when I had a bite...only minutes, seconds maybe after I had cast in, missed it but decided to keep the feeder there and I had an absolutely brilliant day...something like 12 barbel and several chub....had my PB barbel at the time during that session too 10.75lb. I had an audience of about 5 blokes sat on the bank above me watching me in the end.

    Just an example where noise and vibration didn't make one iota of difference.

    Maverick
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    Default Re: If I Had a Hammer....

    [QUOTE=laguna;1346679]There is an obvious difference between 'natural' every day noises (trains rolling by, water fowl squabbles) and an angler alerting fish to his/her presence.

    Did I ever tell you about the time my mate (new to angling at the time) strapped a 12" vibrator to his rod when pike fishing.... No?

    Best keep quiet about that then![/QUOTE)
    Laguna, shouldnt this post be on Derek Gibsons ultimate buzz thread?.
    Last edited by flightliner; 22-07-2015 at 09:15.

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    Default Re: If I Had a Hammer....

    Arthur.....I have lots of these type of banksticks and to be honest when you have a gravel bank....they are next to useless.

    In all fairness to myself....it is only on odd occasions when I have to use the mallet...usually the bank is soft enough to push the sticks in with a bit of effort...but anyway, got myself a pod now so better get used to neckache from now on with looking up all the time eh?

    Maverick
    Have you seen the ones with a slot for a T' Bar....? they can almost be screwed into some of the hardest swims imaginable... or try the JAG auger



    My carping buddy has one.... bloody excellent, not cheap though but waaaaay quieter than a mallet
    I'm Pink, Therefore I'm Spam....!

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    Default Re: If I Had a Hammer....

    Quote Originally Posted by arthur2sheds View Post
    Have you seen the ones with a slot for a T' Bar....? they can almost be screwed into some of the hardest swims imaginable... or try the JAG auger



    My carping buddy has one.... bloody excellent, not cheap though but waaaaay quieter than a mallet
    I have 2 or 3 of the old blue heavy duty Dinsmore types (sure they was Dinsmores) and they have "T" bars but once again Arthur.......on gravel you simply cannot get them to grip as they are drilling between small pebbles...there is nothing solid to grip to....Only exception being is if the gravel is only a few inches deep and is covering proper earth but I find this to be apparent only on rare occasions.

    Maverick

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    Quote Originally Posted by maverick 7 View Post
    Don't get me wrong.....I DO believe it is wise to err on the side of caution..to use a well known phrase....and keep noise to a minimum but I am not sure just how detrimental it is towards fishing....and I don't see how anybody else can be either.
    "Please don't tap the glass" signs?

    Some pet and ornamental fish might associate noise and vibration with feeding times, whereas fish that have been hooked will generally scarper in my view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maverick 7 View Post
    .............. I had an audience of about 5 blokes sat on the bank above me watching me in the end.

    Just an example where noise and vibration didn't make one iota of difference.

    Maverick
    They all came over the hill to see what all the noise was about.

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    Default Re: If I Had a Hammer....

    I've had my roach fishing wrecked a few times by 'mallet man' and it is really noticeable. On the pond at Grange Gate, a mile or two from Lulworth gunnery range the fish don't notice the rumble of the big guns yet I've had the roach go quiet just from someone thumping up the bank.

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    I've seen fish feeding around the feet of drinking cattle and scarpering at the sight of a human in the same cattle drink. I'm in the 'keep it quiet' camp on this issue and have no need for a mallet other than tenderising a cheap steak.

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