Korum xpert

[fichie23]

Hi,

I'm going to be stating a bream campaign this year on one of the mere's up north. I have been told that the bream here tend to be mainly caught at range by the carp anglers, and therefore I'm looking for a rod that will be suitable to cast 2-2.5oz feeders up to 100yards.

I have narrowed my search down to the korum expert range of rods. Does anyone on here have any experience with these? I am thinking the 2.2lb would be suitable for my needs, but perhaps the 1.75lb would do the job good enough?

I would prefer the 1.75lb if suitable as I understand the range are good casting tools due to a fast taper, and the lower tc would perhaps lend its self better to slightly lower b.s lines.

Any feedback much appreciated.

Anthony

 

[mikench]

There are several specialist bream anglers on this forum and I will bow to their superior knowledge. Someone like S-Kippy will be along shortly to give you expert advice:wh

 

[sam vimes]

There aren't huge numbers of that kind of rod around. Many will go for a 1.75+ barbel rod. If you go that way, make sure that the action isn't too through for your needs. Alternatively, you could look for one of the few specifically intended for the task you have in mind. Drennan and Shimano have both done Tench & Bream and Brench rods, respectively. Very recently, Drennan reintroduced their Tench & Bream rods after them being discontinued for a while. The Shimano is only available second hand. I couldn't comment on the Korum, I've not knowingly laid eyes on them.

 

[binka]

It might be worth dropping this fella a pm...

http://www.fishingmagic.com/forums/members/jasonbean1.html

IIRC he was asking exactly the same question some time ago and eventually went down the Korum Xpert route but I seem to think he went for one of the much lighter rods as there was, I believe, some discrepancy between the manufacturers stated casting weights and a broken rod but I seem to think it was rectified to the satisfaction of everyone involved.

 

[S-Kippy]

There are several specialist bream anglers on this forum and I will bow to their superior knowledge. Someone like S-Kippy will be along shortly to give you expert advice:wh

Now now.......I have no issue with anybody who want to deliberately target brim. Personally I think they are bonkers but good luck to them.

Big brim are quite impressive things . It's every other size of snotty i cannot abide.

 

[binka]

My apologies fichie23, my memory is not as good as I thought and the rods I thought were lighter are actually 2.2's, the thread is here...

http://www.fishingmagic.com/forums/coarse-fishing/348310-long-distance-tench-bream-rod-2.html

I still think there was another about a snapped rod but as I said earlier it was resolved.

 

[fichie23]

Thanks for the quick replies folks.

I was looking drennan bream and tench range too, similar price to the korum rods and have some decent reviews online. I have good experience with korum gear in the past though, so i think that its a bit of a confidence thing as to why i fancied these rods.

The brench rods look excellent, although I like the idea of a slightly shorter rod even though this may not be the best way forward in regard to a casting tool.

I had read that thread previously binka, and is actually what put me onto the korum rods in the first place. Will send a pm as you say and see how he got on with them.

I often wonder on cold, wet nights after 3 days on the bank if not entirely not all there S-kippy , really want to see a lump on the bank though as I bet they're an awesome sight. The place where i'm targeting produces many good doubles so should be in with a chance providing I can get a bait to them.

 

[jasonbean1]

Well they're a very nice rod and they do exactly what you ask of them for long distance bream and tench fishing, plus the price is right.

Truth is the pair I bought both had there tip sections snap around the last 8 inch. One on the cast and the other on a wrap round. Korum replaced both sections. I carried on using them with little confidence though. A while later another tip snapped at the end again. that was the last time I used them.

Its a shame the tips are brittle but korum may have resolved that problem even though they did not admit there was one.

I am thinking of having another go for long distance bream and I will be looking for a pair of new rods...the new Drennan ones will be the ones I'm looking at, just wish they were about when I was buying last time.

 

[fichie23]

Hi Jason,

Definitely food for thought there. It's a shame as I have never had an issue with Korum gear in the past, but your experience doesn't instil confidence in these rods. Perhaps one break you could forgive, but not 3.

Will have another look at the drennan rods.

Thanks again for the replies, much appreciated.

Anthony

 

[maurice walsh]

There are several specialist bream anglers on this forum and I will bow to their superior knowledge. Someone like S-Kippy will be along shortly to give you expert advice:wh

yup. s-kippy is the bomb everything bream you need to know in a one-stop-man

he will protes.... ooooopppps , he already has !!! , damn that was quick, my thinks TOO quick... lol lol lol

 

[xenon]

not cheap (to put it mildly) but if your budget allows then consider one of the Diawa Tournament Long distance feeder rods-bit the bullet recently and have to say they are superb-chuck for miles, sensitive tips, great pick up and a fantastic playing action-one of the best rods i have ever used.

 

[Day Breamer]

If it has to be a Korum Xpert rod I would suggest the 2.2lb version for chucking big feeders the 100 yards you mentioned.

The 1.75lb Shimano Brench won't get you there, neither will the 1.75lb Drennan tench and bream, you will likely be 30 yards short with the Drennan and 25 yards short with the Brench (Which is a 12ft 6'' rod).

The 2lb Drennan distance tench and bream would be possible to achieve 100 yards with a feeder in the right hands, not comfortably, but still maybe possible, just.

Other options include the obvious carp rod route, which would open up multiple choices, many of them at cheaper prices than the above mentioned rods.

 

[jasonbean1]

I have been told that the bream here tend to be mainly caught at range by the carp anglers, and therefore I'm looking for a rod that will be suitable to cast 2-2.5oz feeders up to 100yards

Going back to the original post it's a tough ask without moving up to carp rods. This is my distances, all measured out on a field at work. Bearing in mind you can only fish as far as you can feed unless you have a boat. I used a spomb for feeding

For years I used greys xflites in 2lb and mono, max accurate distance 87 meters with dutchmaster feeders in favourable winds or lead and pva stick in less favourable.

Then bought the xpert 2.2s and changed to 20lb braid, max accurate distance 115 meters. dutchmaster feeders in favourable wind. After a season at this distance my casting was at its maximum and to be honest I don't think the rod could have taken anymore. I did fish straight leads another 10 meters further but baiting with a spomb was becoming more difficult.

The question for me would be could I match that with the new drennans or is it time for carp rods?

 

[binka]

Going back to the original post it's a tough ask without moving up to carp rods. This is my distances, all measured out on a field at work. Bearing in mind you can only fish as far as you can feed unless you have a boat. I used a spomb for feeding

For years I used greys xflites in 2lb and mono, max accurate distance 87 meters with dutchmaster feeders in favourable winds or lead and pva stick in less favourable.

Then bought the xpert 2.2s and changed to 20lb braid, max accurate distance 115 meters. dutchmaster feeders in favourable wind. After a season at this distance my casting was at its maximum and to be honest I don't think the rod could have taken anymore. I did fish straight leads another 10 meters further but baiting with a spomb was becoming more difficult.

The question for me would be could I match that with the new drennans or is it time for carp rods?

I like the overall logic of that and the honest appraisal of casting distances.

I would swear that, in favourable conditions with the wind behind me and the right hat on, I've hit 350 yards with a black cap feeder

 

[jasonbean1]

Thanks binka.. That's just it, until I took the clipped up rods and measured out I swore I was hitting mega distances!

 

[binka]

Thanks binka.. That's just it, until I took the clipped up rods and measured out I swore I was hitting mega distances!

I've not gone into that level of detail but I have wound in and working on handle turns to the reel retrieve ratio I have been quite shocked at just how far short of what I thought I had been hitting

Full credit to you for being so thorough.

 

[Day Breamer]

Then bought the xpert 2.2s and changed to 20lb braid, max accurate distance 115 meters. dutchmaster feeders in favourable wind. After a season at this distance my casting was at its maximum and to be honest I don't think the rod could have taken anymore. I did fish straight leads another 10 meters further but baiting with a spomb was becoming more difficult.

The question for me would be could I match that with the new drennans or is it time for carp rods?

You would not get 115 meters with the Drennan.

On my 2lb's I could hit just past 90 yards with a straight lead and this was smashing it out to my max.

I know Martin Bowler gets 80 yards with his using maggot feeders.

115 meters = 125 yards, It's not going to happen with the Distance tench and bream.

 

[flightliner]

A guy I know uses carp rods, daiwa- think he said they were air stream or some such sounding name at 3•5 tc .
A big method feeder loaded with scalded pellets can be pushed very easily to 110 yards plus.
He does ok ( rather well actually) with it too but playing a bream is a very slow process with hardly any bend whatsoever on the rod tip.
He's obviously worked things out and it certainly puts fish on the bank but having thought about it It's not quite what I want from my angling, I,ve settled for shorter distance and a rod with a nice curve to it.

 

[jasonbean1]

You would not get 115 meters with the Drennan.

On my 2lb's I could hit just past 90 yards with a straight lead and this was smashing it out to my max.

I know Martin Bowler gets 80 yards with his using maggot feeders.

115 meters = 125 yards, It's not going to happen with the Distance tench and bream.

Were you using braid or mono?

And to add .....once you've got a suitable rod and a reel with a long cast spool and you want to get max distance all the small variables have to be in place, this is my list

1. 15-20lb braid not mono
2. Helicopter rig
3. If using feeders they have to be dutchmaster or drennan distance maggots
4. Casting has to be done in a a full swing motion like a sling, front to back then cast without stopping. Not casting from a stionery point
5. The vast majority of my distance fishing for bream was done from the same swim where I did not fish it if there was not a favourable wind.

It wasn't till a friend of mine who was a carp angler came with me to do some prebaiting with a spomb that I fully learnt how to cast accurately. When he cast the spomb out to the marker is action was so smooth accurate and powerful.....all while looking effortless. Luckily he spent some time with me and I got near to what he could do.

If I dropped out 1 or 2 of the above the distance would drop dramatically.

All this effort lead to countless double figure bream but the biggest was only 14.14...so I never got to my target of 15lb

I've not been back there for a few years, I decided to spend a lot of time at linear after a 10lb tench..... True to form i never got there 9.12 was the best!

 

[thecrow]

As has been mentioned to get distance on a cast all the right bits of tackle need to be in place but there is one thing that cannot be purchased and that is the ability to use all of those bits to their maximum, some of that ability can be learnt but in my experience there will always be some anglers that are able to cast further than others even with the same tackle.