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I hate wasting bait, and I got fed up of buying expensive worms – usually dendrobaenas, by the quarter kilo, about £5 or £6 round here - and finding they weren't keeping well. I did a bit of research and trial and error; my worms are doing well now, so I thought I'd pass on a few things.
I stopped putting them in the fridge in plastic tubs – that's how my local tackle shop keeps and sells them. I've got two 40 litre plastic storage containers, double-deckered, inside a lidded plastic garden storage box in a shaded part of the garden. Each container has a couple of inches of dead leaves on the bottom, a middle layer of compost and a couple of inches of dead leaves on top and a tight-fitting lid. 2mm air holes are perforated into the top inch, above the leaves, and a few in the bottom in case things get too wet. The worms – I put an initial half a kilo in each box – are fed on chicken feed, called Layers Mash, a sprinkling every other day. They come up and feed on it from underneath. I started off mixing the chicken feed with hot water into a mash. It went mouldy quite quickly, and on a visit to a local worm farm I found the owner, a worm-breeding expert, fed it dry, so I do now.
The worms now breed – eggs followed by small worms appeared after a few weeks- and the worms last for ages, indefinitely, it seems. I don't think it's viable to breed enough on this small scale, but I'm pleased that I can look after what I buy, keep what I don't use and breed a few more. I keep enough to take fishing in peat in a permeable bag in the same garden skip.
My former colleagues say, what are you doing now you've retired?. I say, oh you know, keeping busy :)
 
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Something like this has been on my 'to do' list for what seems like forever and it's the one thing I never seem to get around to doing.

I can buy a kilo of good quality dendras for £14 and more often than not i'll get two or even three sessions out of those so when you break it down it's not bad at all for a long day's fishing.

If I'm not fishing for a few days I always release any leftover worms and I reckon I must be responsible for the biggest on going worm release programme ever carried out although it is a great conscience easer :eek:mg:
 

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Release programme :) Swim wild Swim free

Know what you mean about conscience. I put a tub in the bait fridge over Christmas and forgot them. No survivors. I think I'm doing penance.
 

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does anybody dig for worms anymore? of any type?, blue skulls, bradlings etc etc compost heap stirring up? move a rock? lay a bag on the ground the night before? soapy water on the lawn? ive never bought worms in a shop and cant see it happening anytime soon! i know for some its not an option so dont shoot me just yet:D just the crazy thoughts of a country boy:rolleyes:

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I hate wasting bait, and I got fed up of buying expensive worms – usually dendrobaenas, by the quarter kilo, about £5 or £6 round here - and finding they weren't keeping well. I did a bit of research and trial and error; my worms are doing well now, so I thought I'd pass on a few things.
I stopped putting them in the fridge in plastic tubs – that's how my local tackle shop keeps and sells them. I've got two 40 litre plastic storage containers, double-deckered, inside a lidded plastic garden storage box in a shaded part of the garden. Each container has a couple of inches of dead leaves on the bottom, a middle layer of compost and a couple of inches of dead leaves on top and a tight-fitting lid. 2mm air holes are perforated into the top inch, above the leaves, and a few in the bottom in case things get too wet. The worms – I put an initial half a kilo in each box – are fed on chicken feed, called Layers Mash, a sprinkling every other day. They come up and feed on it from underneath. I started off mixing the chicken feed with hot water into a mash. It went mouldy quite quickly, and on a visit to a local worm farm I found the owner, a worm-breeding expert, fed it dry, so I do now.
The worms now breed – eggs followed by small worms appeared after a few weeks- and the worms last for ages, indefinitely, it seems. I don't think it's viable to breed enough on this small scale, but I'm pleased that I can look after what I buy, keep what I don't use and breed a few more. I keep enough to take fishing in peat in a permeable bag in the same garden skip.
My former colleagues say, what are you doing now you've retired?. I say, oh you know, keeping busy :)

can i offer a little trick to you a wise old boy told me many many yrs ago ? to harden up the worms, witch makes them easier to keep on the hook and a bit more solid to handle/robust, crush a nice big bit of old fired stock brick to very fine powder and add to the soil layer, ive been doing it for years n works a treat when im storing worms for a bit of time
 

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are fed on chicken feed, called Layers Mash

Which in itself is a good cheap groundbait for fish. I seem to recall a guy from the Tenchfishers having some amazing catches on it some years back.
 

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ive never bought worms in a shop and cant see it happening anytime soon!

I'm guessing the business of buying worms by the kilo only started when feeding large amounts of chopped worm became a reliable method of winning matches on some venues.

You'd probably have to go back to Victorian and Edwardian Thames barbel anglers' groundbaiting sessions with hundreds of lobworms in balls of clay to find a similarly extravagant use of the bait previously.

I don't recall anyone in the '60s or '70s using worms in any quantity, although I'm fairly sure an article in the old "Fishing" magazine suggested that using worms singly could hardly be expected to be any more productive as fishing a single maggot without any loose feeding.
 

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Thanks for the tip, country boy. I'll encourage these worms to man up with a bit of brick dust in their diet :) If you you thinks buying worms is a bit decadent have a look here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2-kfbjxKLc


and let Chuck show you how to taser them out with a home-made electric worm probe in the lawn. Only in America. Or has anyone here tried collecting bait with mains electricity?
 

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Big lobworms are a great bait for chub and perch, I can't be doing with all the hassle from small fish when using small worms. My garden is completely devoid of them however so I have to keep buying expensive tubs of them from the tackle shop.

Anyone know how to breed and keep them at home? The little red ones are in my compost heap by the hundred, it's the big guys I need.
 

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.....If I'm not fishing for a few days I always release any leftover worms and I reckon I must be responsible for the biggest on going worm release programme ever carried out although it is a great conscience easer :eek:mg:

..... The worms now breed – eggs followed by small worms appeared after a few weeks- and the worms last for ages, indefinitely, it seems. I don't think it's viable to breed enough on this small scale, but I'm pleased that I can look after what I buy, keep what I don't use and breed a few more. I keep enough to take fishing in peat in a permeable bag in the same garden skip......

Well done to both of you - for this I am pleased to award the prestigious
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Iirc this is the 2nd one awarded to Binka! :w:w:thumbs:
 

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Big lobworms are a great bait for chub and perch, I can't be doing with all the hassle from small fish when using small worms. My garden is completely devoid of them however so I have to keep buying expensive tubs of them from the tackle shop.

Anyone know how to breed and keep them at home? The little red ones are in my compost heap by the hundred, it's the big guys I need.


You may remember my article on a wormery. Its full of red 'uns that breed profusely. Fed well they reach reasonable size. I sometimes use two or three as one bait threaded up a hair.
Being a tight wad, for me thats better than buying big 'uns.

However when I moved into my new bungalow the vegy patch was completely devoid of lobs due to poor sandy soil.
After a couple of years of digging in compost and also digging in over wintered green manure it now has ample lobs to keep me going.
Where they came from I cannot say, but arrive they did:)

So basically manure a patch of garden and the lobs will follow.
 

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My kids have a rabbit, the droppings/sawdust make good compost & red worm food. He has a large run on soil and the lobs seem to thrive in his patch I can find more than enough for a mornings fishing just by digging that over.


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You may remember my article on a wormery. Its full of red 'uns that breed profusely. Fed well they reach reasonable size. I sometimes use two or three as one bait threaded up a hair.
Being a tight wad, for me thats better than buying big 'uns.

However when I moved into my new bungalow the vegy patch was completely devoid of lobs due to poor sandy soil.
After a couple of years of digging in compost and also digging in over wintered green manure it now has ample lobs to keep me going.
Where they came from I cannot say, but arrive they did:)

So basically manure a patch of garden and the lobs will follow.

Absolutely John, manure soon gets them in.
 

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Big lobworms...
Anyone know how to breed and keep them at home? The little red ones are in my compost heap by the hundred, it's the big guys I need.

According to the Worms Direct website, you can't generally breed lobs in captivity, so they have to be collected (or bought).

Q. Can you breed Lob worms in captivity?
A. Generally no, some specialists have achieved this but as it is not commercially viable it has not developed into a business.
https://www.wormsdirectuk.co.uk/acatalog/faq.html
 

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I keep Dendras in a wormery that I bought from Worms Direct (I think).

I started it of with a kilo of medium sized worms and now have more than I could reasonably use. I'm not a huge user of worms anyway - I've yet to try out the chopped worm approach so they are mostly used as hookbait.

As others have said a sprinkling of dry layers mash every few days keeps them happy and breeding.
 
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I have a quick dig in he muck heap at work. 10 mins and I have enough worms for two for a couple of fishing trips. Oh and it's free. :D
 

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A lot of the lobs that are sold in this country are imported from Canada where they are called night crawlers.

I found that out & that surprised me no wonder they are expensive, I pay 11.50 for 50 in essex. They should be flying Ryan Air perhaps ?
 
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