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    Default Re: Trotting on the Severn. Advice on tatics and equipment.

    Quote Originally Posted by markv View Post
    Yes, to mend the line I trap the line on the spool (bailarm is open for me while trotting) and sort of lift/straighten it out behind float, as others do.

    As I say easier if you see it.

    As regards size of float etc, what part of the Severn will you be fishing ?
    Thanks for that,

    I see what you mean about mending the line to try and keep everything straight.

    I will be fishing the middle Severn, around Bridgnorth way.

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    Default Re: Trotting on the Severn. Advice on tatics and equipment.

    Method will be determined by the stretches you decide to fish. Some of the swims around Arley can be pretty fast and shallow, if you go down towards Stourport around Ribbesford, you find deeper slower water. I'd probably recommend minimum 4.4lb Floatfish straight through or a 4lb bottom. On fast shallow sections I prefer a chubber, on deeper water a bolo, if it's slower a lignum stick or topper, there's some decent advice here

    Running Line Floats | Dave Harrell Angling

    There are some really good pin anglers on here, as I'm not one of them I only tend to use mine if I know I won't need to cast any distance, for everything else it's a fixed spool. Although more expensive, the Shimano Ci4 reels are really light and can be fished with easily for long spells.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clutch View Post
    Thanks for that,

    I see what you mean about mending the line to try and keep everything straight.

    I will be fishing the middle Severn, around Bridgnorth way.
    There are huge variations in swims around that area. Despite what you may read yoiu dont need a massive range of floats to catch at the beginning. Just two or three of different sizes to kick off with. Try to pick somewhere where you can fish close in using a stick float or anything fixed top and bottom.

    Different kettle of fish with a waggler but try and pick iether stick or waggler and just learn one at first i'd say.

    I must admit I haven't looked but there is very likely to be some instructional videos to watch somewhere.

    As a suggestion Jamie Robbins has done lots of videos for Shakespeare and now Cadence, while also promoting their products, they are absolutely excellent instructional works.

    Look them up. Must be something approaching your type of water. If not exactly what you're after, a lot of what he teaches/shows will be transferable elsewhere.

    Dave Harrell also writes a lot about fishing that sort of water and presumably has videos too. He heavily promotes his product which is likely to be good but you don't absolutely have to have his stuff.

    The thing is, initially, especially with the internet, there is a surfeit of information which all too quickly leads to brain overload.

    Its not that hard. Give it a go, go home and think about it, go back out with a few amendments to improve and you will get there and have some great days.

    Its brilliantly absorbing.

    Just another thought. There will be a lot of anglers reading this who will think 'wish I could show him' because believe me it is a lot easier than writing about it. If you can go out with someone, do so. If not , there are matches held around Bridgnorth and Bewdley, if you can get a chance to walk along these and see someone fishing a float, trotting through it'll help enormously.

    I know many will fish a ledger but you should see a float in action somewhere. These lads will know what they are doing. You could look for other pleasure anglers also float fishing.

    At Bewdley there are float only matches run by Kidderminster & District AA, although I think these are midweek.

    If watching matches, remember you don't need all the parafenalia they may have, and you don't need to attempt the sort of distances they may be fishing when starting.

    One very important point, make sure when you watch someone that you don't 'skyline' them, meaning don't allow your profile to stick out above the bankside and be silhouetted against the sky, keep down below the skyline, having some higher bank or trees or whatever to conceal your outline. Otherwise fish can clear off.

    Good Luck.
    Last edited by markv; 08-12-2017 at 15:01.
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    Thanks for the help guys. Really useful.

    Is the general consensus that a 2500 real is the right size to get? I know Jasonbean1 recommended this real earlier in the thread.

    Daiwa Ninja Front Drag - 2500A

    Is that the sort of thing I should be looking at? I wanted to spend about a max of £50 (less if I can get away with it). But, like anything, you get what you pay for.

    Oh. And for a final incredibly stupid question (forgive me), i see that these reels such as the Daiwa above, hold 155m of 0.28mm line. Float line seems to usually come on spools 100m long(Such as the Drennan float line). So, one spool will not fill this reel...do you have to buy two spools and connect the line...is there some very obvious way around it that I am missing?..

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    Default Re: Trotting on the Severn. Advice on tatics and equipment.

    Quote Originally Posted by clutch View Post
    Oh. And for a final incredibly stupid question (forgive me), i see that these reels such as the Daiwa above, hold 155m of 0.28mm line. Float line seems to usually come on spools 100m long(Such as the Drennan float line). So, one spool will not fill this reel...do you have to buy two spools and connect the line...is there some very obvious way around it that I am missing?..
    Not stupid at all, build the level up on your spool using a cheap line before putting your line that you will use onto the reel.

    That seems rather heavy for trotting have you considered a lighter line say around 5lbs?
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    5lb is still very heavy for general stick float fishing. Use as light a line as you can as it will make casting easier.
    As for reels, the ninja is ok but the legalis is about 55 quid and in my opinion another step up in terms of quality.

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    Default Re: Trotting on the Severn. Advice on tatics and equipment.

    Quote Originally Posted by robcourt82 View Post

    5lb is still very heavy for general stick float fishing. Use as light a line as you can as it will make casting easier

    The OP is a newcomer to trotting using a heavier line and a heavier float will allow him to control the float better, I didn't see any mention of stick floats in his OP maybe I missed it?

    Casting with a fixed spool reel being made easier is a mute point as if he uses a stick he doesn't need to cast far for a start and doing so would indicate he would be using a waggler in which case 5lb line is not imo to heavy, I am aware of some very good trotters on FM that use 5lb line and have no problems catching fish indeed I have seen heavier used with success.

    If I were the OP I would look to make things as easy as possible for myself and if changes were needed they can be made as the angler gains more experience, on the other hand he could start with light line and discover for himself whether he needs to change all down to himself and how he wants to progress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thecrow View Post
    Not stupid at all, build the level up on your spool using a cheap line before putting your line that you will use onto the reel.

    That seems rather heavy for trotting have you considered a lighter line say around 5lbs?
    Thats for that, cleared that up!

    Oh yes, I was going to start around 5lb ish. Its just the only line holding statistic that was available for that reel.

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    I would buy a 3000 shimano stradic. Good ones for about 55 second hand.

    As mentioned earlier, as a start point for a newcomer 5.5 sillstar match team combined wuth a 3.5 red maggot hook to nylon with a 5-6bb stick like a drennan shouldered float would be my first choice of set up at Bridgenorth looking for steady 6ft of water a rod to two lengths out.

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    Lmao. Someone got out the wrong side of bed!
    In my opinion 5lb is still a little heavy for any type of General river float fishing. If the op is specifically targeting barbel then maybe 5lb or heavier would be better but if he is fishing for bites and a few fish, whatever comes along then a lighter line will be easier to cast and to control the line with and will give better presentation.

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