Bolognaise rods

[Jeff Spiller]

I've been looking at long rods, with roach fishing in mind. I have found these Bolognaise rods, anything from 10' to 25' but not sure what they are used for and if one would be suitable for roach fishing.

Anyone know anything about them ?

 

[Wobbly Face (As Per Ed)]

They're very long. Mate of mine used one on deep water so he didn't have to use sliding float. He didn't like poles.

 

[Nigel Connor(ACA ,SAA)]

I think they are a bit of a specialised tool , Jeff , not that is a reason not to get one.How about a conventional long float rod at 17ft?

You Spiller's planning an assault on the Wye?

 

[The bad one]

Mine's the 18/20 ft Shakespeare, had it about 8 years. I've caught fish (roach) from a oz up to carp in the mid double range. I bought it for fishing deep waters (reservoirs) for perch. However, it gets used for tench and bream as well when the swim and conditions are right.

It's a very versatile tool once you get use to using it. It will cast a big loaded waggler a long way 40 yards if needed. Because of the length and even though it's quite a fast taper, the action is right through to the butt with a big tench or mid double carp on, which I try to shake off as nuisance fish.

There as some down sides to them though -You need open swims no trees trimmed backover head. No high banks behind you if you're casting a fair way. To heavy to trot with for any length of time, unless you place a rod rest near the mid section to rest it on.

 

[Peter Jacobs]

Jeff,

A proper Bolo' rod is a telescopic rod that actually has very few rings, obviously. They were very popular in Italy and Scandinavia to fish the very deep sections of a river with heavily loaded floats. The main drawback with Bolo' rods is that the line, when wet, tends to stick to the blank which makes accurate casting quite difficult.
They were little more than a whip that had rings whipped to the end of each section and a reel seat whipped directly onto the blank; so no real cork or duplon handle.

I've got a 7m version, made by Milo, if you fancy trying one out.

Alternatively, the English version was the long (upto 20 feet) conventional rod. Another alternative might be to consider a long whip, 6m, 7m or longer if required, or even the long pole with a longer line than normal?

 

[Jeff Spiller]

Thanks for that, very interesting. I did think that the line may stick to the blank as you say Peter.It is the Bolo rod I've been lookingat, just trying to work out if it would be any good for me. Peter have you used yours for trotting and can it be used at different lenght's ?

Might be thinking about the Wye Nigel and parts of the Bristol Avon, I've got a 15' float rod and hardly notice it's lenght, but do enjoy fishing with it. That's how I found these rod's, I was looking for long rod's 17'/19'

Bad one they are good strong rod's then, I some how thought that they would be very delacate, small fish type rod's.

 

[eric hall]

Hi Jeff,

As an English angler living in Italy, I can't get away from the bolognese rods! The Italians even use the for boat fishing out at sea! Actually to great effect.

To be honest the top end ones are beautiful, very light and well balanced, have watched many Italian River anglers using them and landing good 4-5lb Chub and Barbel on them, matched with some rather unusual Milo Tact Closed Face fishing reels,

see here

http://www.milo.it/It/Mulinell/tact.asp

I am thinking about buying one for sea fishing in Liguria next year from the rocks, good luck!

Eric
www.anglinginitaly.com

 

[Mark Wintle]

Jeff,

In this country we fish 'long' rods (we had them as early as 1980 before we'd even heard of Bolognese rods) rather than what are strictly 'Bolognese' rods which are different - similar but different rods and style of fishing. I've used long rods though for trotting they are hard work. The best ever is the Carbotech 17' which was £595.Even on the Bristol Avon I coped with 13' rods just about all the time though I've seen the Wye tackled with 15/6' rods. My 13' rod has a 2' extension which is OK. I don't think the advantage of an even longer rod than 15' is that great though I like to fish a 17'/20' rod with a 'pin on still water in summer - that rod is a little powerful for trotting.

 

[Jeff Spiller]

Eric they are great looking reel's, have you fished with them ? I've got the Abu, good reel but the bloody line keep's catching, for every one good trot I'm getting two bad run's.

Hi Mark, the reason I've been looking is that I have a cheap 15' rod, leeda XL and I enjoy using it, the extra control, the way I can pick the line up. was thinking of getting another, that's why 15'/17 thought's.

 

[eric hall]

Great looking reels in deed, never thought I would like a red reel!!!

The Italians use this to real effect (excuse the pun!)

If anyone is interested in them I may stock them on my online shop once my website is up and running

Ciao
Eric
www.anglinginitaly.com

 

[Jeff Spiller]

Eric I hope they don't do a camo one /forum/smilies/crying_smiley.gif.

Milo !!! going to be expensive.

 

[eric hall]

no only the red one I would stock! Price is around ?90 I think, if people are interested I could start selling a few on my ebay shop until the site is underway

Eric
www.anglinginitaly.com

 

[Jeff Spiller]

look forward to seeing your site when it is up and running Eric.

 

[eric hall]

contact me at info@anglinginitaly.com and I will add you to my database and inform you when it is up and running.

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[Steve E]

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Eric I hope they don't do a camo one /forum/smilies/crying_smiley.gif.

Milo !!! going to be expensive.</blockquote>


Specially designed for stream trout fishing, this reel has the same technical features and internal mechanism as the red version, but comes in a briar colour providing a perfect camouflage in the stream environment.

!!!!!

Eric,how much is one of these inc postage? Thanks

 

[eric hall]

Without postage online here in Italy 85 euros

 

[The bad one]

"Bad one they are good strong rod's then, I some how thought that they would be very delacate, small fish type rod's."

The one I've got is robust but has the finesse in the top two sections for small fish. My mate bought a Normark 16 -18 ft and found that a bit powerful for small fish fishing, but great for pastie bashing on the commercials. He's since bought a Shakespeare the same as mine, for silver fishing.

I tend to use mine at 18 ft most of the time, just feels better balanced without the dolly 2 ft section in.

 

[trev (100M bronze)]

I dont have a bolognese rod, I just use my normal one but put a cheeky little meat and tomato sauce on it instead. I used it for a while but then found out if i covered it in peanuts and chocolate it worked a treat.

 

[The bad one]

I tried that but the plate kept falling off the end of the rod, so I bought the real mcCoy

 

[EC]

The shakespeare range of superteam rods do changeable length float rodsof12/16, 13/17and 14/18ft or so, if my memory serves me right.

I spent a good while in a local shop dithering last winter, debating with myself howoftenI would use a long rod for trotting, however I eventually got a straight forward 13 footer as I decided this would get the most use, IF I had the bunce at the time I would have gotthe 13/17version, this feltsuperb at both lengths, howeverI got a mach II for a steal.

As Phil says they are very versatile. They had quite a few options and eventhe 18ft'er looked and felt the part. I reckon this range might suit you Jeff, unless you want something longer. To me the tips seemed soft enough, but there was lots of power down the blank.