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    Default Need advice on a feeder rod and tatics

    Hey,

    I have recently discovered fishing and I have had a great season on the river. Now that the season is closed, I have been looking for alternative venues to fish whilst the Severn is out of action.

    I have got the opportunity to fish a still water, nothing massive, stocked with carp up to 10'lb, roach, perch, skimmers etc.

    I fancy giving feeder fishing ago and I could use some advice on what rod and length I should be looking at. I don't want to spend too much if possible. £40-ish on a rod if I can get away with it. Also, not sure what sort of length would be a good starting point. So, if anyone has any ideas about what rod to get, then that would be very helpful.

    Also, if anyone has any advice on how to approach a small mixed fishery, tactics, rigs, line recommendations etc then I would be very grateful.

    Cheers

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    Default Re: Need advice on a feeder rod and tatics

    If you’re targeting shy biting silverfish use a very light tip. For larger species like carp, tench and barbel, you should use a heavier tip. The bites from these species aren’t shy and they will often try to pull the rod in. which I have seen too many times. I use the Guru Reaper rear grip rest about £6.50
    It’s cheaper than a new rod & reel!!!

    Rough guide tip rating
    0.5oz - 1oz. Stillwaters Silverfish
    1.5oz - 2oz. Stillwaters and slow-moving rivers Small carp, tench bream and silverfish
    2.5oz - 3oz. Stillwaters and moderately flowing rivers Carp, tench and chub
    4oz – plus. Distance fishing, the Method feeder and fast-flowing rivers Double-figure carp and barbel

    CARBON tips are stiffer and generally have a higher strength rating (2oz to 6oz).
    GLASS tips have a soft, progressive action and are produced in lower test curves (0.5oz to 2.5oz)

    The heavier the feeder/leger weight, the stronger the tip should be. If you use too light a tip it will either not cast the weight properly or, worse still break on the cast!

    The rating is the test curve (meaning the amount of strength it take to pull around) Non the casting
    Weigh

    Go to any fishery and look at a lot of people using feeders a lot are over balanced with to heavy feeders packed with bait or the wrong tip. Just because a rod say it can cast a 3oz feeder doesn’t mean you have to use that on still water. There’s a lot more to fishing then being able to casting a weight to the other side of the lake, fish the margins learn about the waters you fish (water craft) try different baits. You never stop learning

    If you are fish on commercial pond a 10ft /11ft feeder rod would be ok as its not needed for casting to any distance use a reel line of 6lb hook length 4lb they will cast a feeders from 15g-45g

    Bigger rivers or lakes 12ft rod

    Shimano, diawa, Korum all sell good feeder rods from £30 up

    A small baby baitrunner reel 2500 or 4000 size from £35 up


    Shimano Forcemaster 10ft Feeder Rod Hyperloop Reel and Line Combo Offer 7437333622617 | eBay

    SHIMANO FORCEMASTER COMMERCIAL 10' MINI FEEDER ROD - EX DISPLAY | eBay

    Shimano Baitrunner ST 2500 RB Reel Coarse Carp Specimen Fishing - BTRST2500FB 22255190251 | eBay
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    Default Re: Need advice on a feeder rod and tatics

    Clutch: the previous post covered a big topic really well, here are a few more points which might help:

    Don't use less than 6lb reel line, casting heavy feeders is hard on line.

    Try to cast as accurately as possible.

    Start off with maggots to help you get used to quiver tipping.

    Use the softest appropriate tip but it is better for the tip to be too stiff than too soft.

    I prefer 11ft tip rods but find one to suit you.

    Swingtips are far more sensitive but are better suited to shorter casts.

    Vary the length of hook link to find which is best on the day, roach especially can be very picky and no two days are the same in the way they feed.

    There is loads more to it but the above might also help, good luck.

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    Default Re: Need advice on a feeder rod and tatics

    Wow,

    Thanks for that. Just what I needed.

    Would you recommend the forcemaster rods as a good entry point?

    The pool itself is reasonably small, so I will bear in mind trying to match the feeder with the tip, line etc.

    Thanks again.

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    Default Re: Need advice on a feeder rod and tatics

    The Forcemaster rods are good, also the Daiwa Harrier/Ninja rods and the Maver Abyss, I think the latter 2 have a softer action than the Forcemaster. Garbolino do one called the Maxim which also has a pellet waggler top with it, this may just be above your budget, 11' is a good length for most uses, try and get one with at least 2 tips, Like Peter said, start with maggots either on a straight lead or in a swimfeeder.No need for "horizon" casting, If you see movement in the margins, it can pay to lower your bait there and fish a slack line and watch where the line enters the water and not the tip for any bites, but keep hold of your rod.

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    Default Re: Need advice on a feeder rod and tatics

    I have the forcemaster 10ft AX with a 2&3 Oz tips mainly for carp a very good rod for the money.
    Chrissy, very good write up what is the max weight feeder you recommend casting with each of the tips

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    Default Re: Need advice on a feeder rod and tatics

    Quote Originally Posted by clutch View Post
    Wow,

    Thanks for that. Just what I needed.

    Would you recommend the forcemaster rods as a good entry point?

    The pool itself is reasonably small, so I will bear in mind trying to match the feeder with the tip, line etc.

    Thanks again.
    I stated with the Forcemaster feeder when I stated to visit mixed commercials then I made the jump to a Speedmaster feeder only because my daughter want to buy it for a birthday present if she hadn’t offered I would still be using the forcemaster today. The forcemaster is a very good rod for the money the rod can cast up to a 40g feeder but on commercial a 15-20g or just a 1/2-1oz bomb is all you need. these rod will happerly handle 10-15lb plus fish all day
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    Default Re: Need advice on a feeder rod and tatics

    Quote Originally Posted by cockneybob View Post
    I have the forcemaster 10ft AX with a 2&3 Oz tips mainly for carp a very good rod for the money.
    Chrissy, very good write up what is the max weight feeder you recommend casting with each of the tips
    Myself on commercials I only use 15/20g which you can buy in 3 sizes (S) (M) (L)…It all depends on how far you want to cast 1/2oz tip feeder or bomb 15g up to 20 yards… a 1oz with the same weight 30 yards. 2oz tip with 30 -40 years
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    Default Re: Need advice on a feeder rod and tatics

    Quote Originally Posted by chrissh View Post
    yards… a 1oz with the same weight 30 yards. 2oz tip with 30 -40 years
    How far are you casting Chris? You haven't time to rebait!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrissh View Post
    I stated with the Forcemaster feeder when I stated to visit mixed commercials then I made the jump to a Speedmaster feeder only because my daughter want to buy it for a birthday present if she hadn’t offered I would still be using the forcemaster today. The forcemaster is a very good rod for the money the rod can cast up to a 40g feeder but on commercial a 15-20g or just a 1/2-1oz bomb is all you need. these rod will happerly handle 10-15lb plus fish all day
    Thanks again.

    I think I will go with the forcemaster. I have been to look at the pool today, its quite small, so I wont need to be casting long distances anyway. I was thinking about getting the 10ft version.

    After a bit of research the pool is mainly stocked with carp, nothing really bigger then 10lbs and a few skimmers.

    Would you recommend using a maggot feeder to start or go with a method feeder? I know its personal choice for some, especially when approaching a new water.

    Finally, would a 2 oz tip be suitable due to the short casting distance? I want to make sure everything is as balances as possible.

    Thanks for the help

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