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  1. #21
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    Hook tiers seem to fill a niche and some people are happy to use them and satisfied with their performance and results. Out of morbid curiosity I have tried them and personally find them tedious to use. I am with trotter 2 on this and prefer to tie spade end or eyed hooks by hand. Truth to tell I can tie half a dozen hooks by hand in the time it takes me to find my hook tier. However for those with limited dexterity I agree they are a convenience. Pete.
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    I fully agree with "bracket", I am 75 this June and have hand tied my spade end hooks since my grandfather spent hours teaching me when I was 10 years old sitting on the front step of his Coronation Street style house in Salford Manchester in the early 1950's.
    I lived in fear of one of my hand tied size 22 Mustard wire hooks ever coming loose when fishing the Bridge Water Canal that ran parallel with the railway line between Altringham and Sale on Summer evenings, I used to wait for him outside the Navigation Pub with the sandwiches my Gran had made for us after he had finished work at Churchill's engineering in Atlantic Street. We would sit on the canal bank fishing for a couple of hours every Tuesday and Thursday evening from me being 8 years old until sadly his passing away when I was 13, before we walked home along the bank of the canal as the electric trains want thundering past on the opposite bank.
    I still hand tie my spade end hooks but size 16 is the smallest my old eyes can manage, but I still have a hook tier my late Gran gave me that Granddad had that I had never seen, it is hand made from a round piece of wood with a slot in it to trap the hook I'm guessing it was from long before any shop bought ones came out.
    While he was alive I never saw him use it, he insisted I learned to hand tie my hooks, but if there is a life after this one I shall be having a word with him over a pint of Guinness about the threat of no glass of Dandelion and Burdock and packet of crisps in the navigation courtyard if my hooks aver came undone

    Tight Lines and Happy Memories

    Mike

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    Nothing against lads that use a hook tier people like bracket and me are lucky we can tie small hooks by hand others can't. I am 53 tied hooks by hand from age 11. I know my eye sight is not as good as it was need glasses,that's life. If I do find it difficult one day I will use one why struggle on.

  4. #24

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    I learned to tie hooks by hand, like most anglers of my generation. But once I'd seen what a beautiful job the matchman tier made of it, even with tiny hooks, cold wet hands, semi-darkness, there was no good reason not to use them. If I have a "thing" about hooks and knots, it's that I never buy pre-tied hooks. I know they're likely to be as good as any I tie - but I like to tie my own knots.

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    I didn't ever learn to tie by hand, and had no one to show me. Hook tiers, of any type, were a revalation. Since those early days, I have tied the odd spade end by hand. However, I never became remotely practiced at it. For that reason, I'll stick to a hook tier than I'm well practiced with. There's not much point in persisting with something that isn't as quick and doesn't produce the required result. I'm sure that'll apply equally to those that tie by hand.

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    I found a matchman in a car park but couldn't get on with it! Mind you it had been run over!

    I'm too old now to practice so will buy ready tied!

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    I've tied my spade end hooks by hand since I was 11, I turn 70 this year and, for me, the Matchman was a revelation last Thursday, using it to tie size 18's on a cold and windy river bank was so much easier than fumbling about with my arthritic fingers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by metalmicky1944 View Post
    I fully agree with "bracket", I am 75 this June and have hand tied my spade end hooks since my grandfather spent hours teaching me when I was 10 years old sitting on the front step of his Coronation Street style house in Salford Manchester in the early 1950's.
    I lived in fear of one of my hand tied size 22 Mustard wire hooks ever coming loose when fishing the Bridge Water Canal that ran parallel with the railway line between Altringham and Sale on Summer evenings, I used to wait for him outside the Navigation Pub with the sandwiches my Gran had made for us after he had finished work at Churchill's engineering in Atlantic Street. We would sit on the canal bank fishing for a couple of hours every Tuesday and Thursday evening from me being 8 years old until sadly his passing away when I was 13, before we walked home along the bank of the canal as the electric trains want thundering past on the opposite bank.
    I still hand tie my spade end hooks but size 16 is the smallest my old eyes can manage, but I still have a hook tier my late Gran gave me that Granddad had that I had never seen, it is hand made from a round piece of wood with a slot in it to trap the hook I'm guessing it was from long before any shop bought ones came out.
    While he was alive I never saw him use it, he insisted I learned to hand tie my hooks, but if there is a life after this one I shall be having a word with him over a pint of Guinness about the threat of no glass of Dandelion and Burdock and packet of crisps in the navigation courtyard if my hooks aver came undone

    Tight Lines and Happy Memories

    Mike
    Wow that's a blast from the past Bridge Water Canal. I learnt to fish on there circa 1965 fishing bread and catching roach.

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    I've always tied my hooks by hand and though I've tried hooktiers out of curiousity they utterly defeat me. I would never trust a hook I'd tied using one of those things. The Devil's work IMO and should be banned.

    My eyesight is also not what it was but I can still hand tie a size 20 which is as small as I've ever gone or ever will go......not that I do much fishing where I think I need a 20 any more and sheer bloody laziness means I usually use ready tieds....assuming you can get them on fine nylon which you increasingly cant.

    Any amount of size 14 to 7lb around but theres no 20's to 1.1 which was my go to standard during my " canal" period.

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    I've tied mine at home with an Esi-Tie bench tier since about 1975. It's better and quicker than a Matchman tier which I carry for on the bank. I was shown how to tie by hand in the late 70s but never mastered it. The Esi-Tie will tie down to 30s and the finest of lines with the correct tension.

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