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“Sur quelque préférence une estime se fonde,
Et c'est n'estimer rien qu'estimer tout le monde.”
― Molière, The Misanthrope
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“Sur quelque préférence une estime se fonde,
Et c'est n'estimer rien qu'estimer tout le monde.”
― Molière, The Misanthrope
Yes, Browning do a Sphere Waggler rod. Very nice it is too, but the action is quite different to the spliced tip river rods. It's progressive, but more through. It's exactly what I like in a waggler rod, just as the spliced tip river rods fit my idea of a trotting rod. Perhaps they are even the same blank, it's certainly possible, but a well done splice turns the rod into a different beast.
A spliced tip can't make a rod have a faster action. The spliced tip is soft for cushioning light lines and that's it's purpose
Molière, The Misanthrope
Keith
A spliced tip can't make a rod have a faster action. The spliced tip is soft for cushioning light lines and that's it's purpose.
Regarding a rolling wrist strike, that's a strike that works ok at shorter distances and fishing direct to the rod tip (which is precisely what the spliced tip rod was designed for). If you tried that when fishing across river or at distances your just gonn'a have lots of bumped/not hooked firmly enought to hold fish, or not even pick up enough slack line to pull the float back on the waters surface.
I get the vibe that you think i'm slating the spliced rods but i'm not at all, i'm saying I think they're not as versatile as a hollow tipped rod.
Oh, and yes, i'm quite positive a hollow tipped rod can replicate a splice and with the benifit of no dead spot.....no matter how slight or unnoticeable it may be.
Ian, all I can say is that from my perspective, you are wrong on both counts. Every directly comparable waggler and spliced tip stick rod (Sphere Waggler/Sphere Spliced Tip, Daiwa Tom Pickering Matchwinner Waggler/Matchwinner Stick etc etc) I've ever compared has the spliced version having a faster action. I can only assume that if you think otherwise, we have quite different ideas about what constitutes a fast action. It's most definitely not about power.
As far as the roll of the wrist strike goes, I want to be able to do exactly that at 40, 50 yards and beyond. That's exactly what I do, with the right rods. You sweep, I don't, and really don't want to, even at range.
Again, I find the whole "dead spot" (usually referred to as a flat spot) thing rather baffling. I've never seen a flat spot on any decent rod, spliced or otherwise. If they had what my idea of a flat spot is, I'd consider them rubbish rods. However, I've never seen any definition of what exactly a flat spot is. I'll bet that every angler that's heard or used the term will have a different idea of what it is.
Ultimately, I rather suspect that this all revolves around conflicting use of the same terminology. Then it's a matter of personal preference and long term, ingrained technique.
I don't care if no one else wants to use a spliced tip rod, but as yet, I've never encountered a hollow tipped rod that can perfectly replicate the spliced tip action I want. You think otherwise, that's fine. You've yet to suggest a rod, that I'd agree has a faster action. You've mentioned Acolytes, but you know I own several, but still disagree. I often see Normark 2000s proposed, but, though my experience is limited, I always felt they were just a very good halfway house. Great for a do it all rod, but not quite either end of the spectrum.
Of course a spliced tip river rod is not as versatile as a hollow tipped rod, I've certainly not tried to suggest anything of the sort. I'd wince to see one used with a waggler, they just aren't meant for that. However, your descriptions of how spliced tip rods behave bears no relation whatsoever to my ideal spliced tip rods. Flat spots, tips collapsing etc, would be features of rods I'd not give house space to.
I don't particularly think you are slating spliced tip rods. I just think that your own experiences and preferences have tainted your view to such an extent that you have closed your mind to the possibility that not all spliced tip rods are exactly the same.
Forgot to mention, the flat spot. If you push a quivertip into a rod that's to powerful and you bend it you'll see the flat spot easy enough.
Wow I have really stirred up a hornets nest.
All I asked who makes a spliced tips rods so I can do some home work on manufactures before I part with my hard earned.
Absolutely, but if you see a flat spot it's either, a) a drastically mismatched tip to rod/carrier section. b) a dismally poor rod
No matter how good a match, there will always be some difference.
I forgot to answer your question about asking why Harrisons or Tricast why they still make spliced rods....I did speak to Steve Harrison in his workshop and asked about such things. His reply to me was the fewer sections the better, best with none! A splice is just another section.
Do they still make a production spliced tip rod? I'm surprised if they do, infact i'd be surprised if they make any factory float rods anymore....but they may do.
I think for the biggest part Harrisons prefer to supply their blanks to custom rod builders and let them do their thing.
A splice is undoubtedly just another section. However, in the real world, few of us can get away with a one piece rod. Many can't countenance the prospect of a two piece 13' rod. I'd also suggest that if you believe that every spliced tip must have a flat spot, then, by the same logic, you'd have to say the same for every other joint in a rod. Personally, I just don't see these flat spots in anything other than badly made, badly designed, or badly mismatched rods.
They either still make spliced tip rods, or there is a load of old stock lying around. Quite a few custom rod makers are still listing spliced tip Harrison float rods. The question that needs asking is why they ever felt the need to make them, regardless of whether they still do. I find it difficult to believe that they'd bother if they could achieve the same action with a hollow tip.
I think we can all pretty much all agree what a flat spot is . A lot of the time it can be seen visual, simply by bending the rod and looking down the blank. Anyone willing to take a stab at describing the detrimental effects of the flat spot and how it effects the hooking rate of the rod in such a way. I have a theory what's going on and why but interested in others takes on this.
Here's a spliced-tip rod with a big Trent roach attached. Attached to the roach is a big Trent pike. I wouldn't recommend it for pike, but it's lovely tool for roach on the stick.
Yes - the action on this type of rod is mostly higher up the rod. That's a feature, not a fault.
I haven't found a flat-spot problem, but I suppose this type of rod could be in an angler's blind-spot. :wh
My waggler rods bend very much like that until I put them under greater pressure when the bottom sections come into play.
Another word used to describe a fast action float rod that you don't really hear much nowadays is "tippy".
My waggler rods bend very much like that until I put them under greater pressure when the bottom sections come into play.
Another word used to describe a fast action float rod that you don't really hear much nowadays is "tippy".