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    Default Re: Sensitive float fishing technique?

    Quote Originally Posted by bennygesserit View Post
    I find this time around in my fishing hobby ( 3rd time 6 - 15 , 48 - 54 , 57 onwards ) I am paying much more attention to reading and thinking about a way to consistently catch on a canal whereas my previous technique was just to throw a very few casters over the float once a minute - now that can sometimes catch a lot of fish !
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    Don't be surprised if you go back to doing this, sometimes the new fangled ways aren't always as good as what you already know. If it used to work it still will, I'd fish maggots on a canal as the bigger fish the caster will be selective for may take a while to hone in on your feed and maggots will get bites from everything, you can always try caster if there's too much small stuff feeding on maggot

    Groundbait can work holding bream but often it wont, bread is just as good as they love it if bream are in the area try a bread attack. I never bother with GB and I do ok on the canal, preffering instead to flavour the maggots. It's the feeding that matters and you've got that right.

    Canals can switch off though for no reason and they also should be treated like rivers so to consistently catch you need to know the better swims and certain times of year and use them. Even the best match anglers will struggle drawing a duff peg on a canal. Try new ideas but don't be disheartened if you go back to the old tried and trusted

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikench View Post
    My laziness in plumbing up is largely caused by my preference to fish overdepth or up in the water. I never use a dumpy pellet waggler.
    There's a lot to be gained and nothing to be lost by finding the depth of the water in front of you. Most of the time, it's the only way of having a look around under the surface. (And even blokes who say I don't plumb up on moving water, I just guestimate, run through and then adjust til float doesn't drag are plumbing up - they're just not using a plummet!)

    You can gain useful information by finding out how the water shelves away from you and how the depth changes to left or right. Finding the contours of your swim is a vital step towards judging where fish are likely to be or will be happy to congregate, influencing where you fish and feed and letting you fish at an exact depth or a known amount overdepth or off the bottom.

    I know you're not a user of those cumbersome pole things (!), but once you try one with a plummet on, it's an eye-opener to see how you can map the depths of your swim and set your float precisely. It's not so easy with rod and line, but equally important.

    You don't have to use a plummet - although for some jobs a bit of weight does help - and a large shot on a bit of rubber band or pinched on the hook, or a bottom shot that registers clearly on the float will let you see the depth without causing disturbance.

    Most often, anglers speak of plumbing THE depth - as if there's only one. But in most swims the bottom goes up and down, often in ways you wouldn't predict, and it's better to check the depth methodically at several points, not in one dunk.

    If you fish the same place or swims regularly, trial and error experience will give you an idea how deep to set your float, but there's no substitute for actually finding out. I quite understand the urge to get set up and get fishing as soon as possible, but it can be one of the most worthwhile ways to spend 5 minutes. You'll find over time innumerable correlations between depths, contours and fish: crucians you only catch if your bait is placed just at the bottom of the little ledge; roach that only bite if your bait is 1' off the bottom; bream that will settle down better on a big flat bit; tench that feed on the sloping side rather than in the silt where the bottom flattens off; fish that will only bite if you steady your bait with a foot or two of line on the bottom.... and so on.

    We all pick where to fish by having a look around the water; plumbing complements this with a look around under the surface.

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    Default Re: Sensitive float fishing technique?

    Lets think a bit,set ups are all pretty sensitive if done correctly,look at the lift method,its amazingly responsive,even an AA shot three or four inches from the hook sends the float launching into the air,even small fish achieve this response,if by sensitive you mean lightly shotted,fine tipped floats these still need to be right for the conditions and the vagaries of the fish on the day,I think its all relative and only certain fish in certain conditions require such a definite sensitive set up,most times you can catch plenty without such precision,still has to be reasonable for best results,but...

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    Default Re: Sensitive float fishing technique?

    Thanks Kev, I must repent my recalcitrant ways.

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    Default Re: Sensitive float fishing technique?

    What's the answer, leave them to it or offer t intervene. I must say I'm of the intervention gang. I can't sit beside someone with obviously no idea without at least offering to help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nottskev View Post
    There's a lot to be gained and nothing to be lost by finding the depth of the water in front of you
    There is one occasion when it can be a disadvantage and thats when you stalking and perhaps 1 cast is all your going to get or you risk spooking the fish. On those occasions fishing a little over depth (as best you can guess) and pulling back till the float cocks is one way round the issue.

    In general however of course plumbing & knowing whats in front of you is an advantage. Some specialist anglers will spend whole days mapping our waters with a plumbing rod and marking distances to underwater features so they know in advance what they are casting to and even were to stand, what to aim at & how many reel turns to clip up to. So on the day of fishing the rods arte already prepared to hit the spot in one cast.

    Of course this is more relevant when your fishing the same water over an extended period.

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    Default Re: Sensitive float fishing technique?

    Such knowledge is always relevent Philip,I fish places today that I fished when I was a young man,still know where the deep water is and roughly what it's going to be.

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    Default Re: Sensitive float fishing technique?

    Remember folks you don't need a heavy plummet to plumb as the Kylie song goes

    A simple no1 shot squeezed gently on the bend of the hook will cause no disturbance and will rest on any silt, chance are you will catch a carp on a commercial doing this which shows how freely fish feed if you drop in quietly

    You could also resist the temptation to fish the plumbed depth straight away, why should the fish be on the bottom especially this time of year? And why plumb straight away? You can do it at any time

    I'll very rarely plumb on a canal, maybe when I'm intending to fish dead depth for fish like perch in winter, with the tow from boat traffic you'll find the depth and the contours of the swim pretty easy without casting a plummet around

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    Default Re: Sensitive float fishing technique?

    I will plumb up on a stillwater almost every time and mark the depth against my rod. I can then fish overdepth or up in the water or change to dead depth at any time I want and as many times as I want, and if I manage to lose my hook or my line breaks above or below the float or I simply want to change my hook I know exactly how deep I was fishing before.

    It usually only takes me a short time to plumb up and sometimes I find a ledge or gully that I didn’t realise was there before.

    I do use a light plummet sometimes but usually I just use a largish shot pinched onto the bend of my hook.

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    Default Re: Sensitive float fishing technique?

    If i'm intending to fish at depth or so i will probably use an SSG to give a starting point,it will always need altering a bit for best results,but if you need to be dead depth or just under a biggish plummet gives accurate info...

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