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    Rob Brownfield Guest

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    I will use this example to fuel my arguement.

    A farmer would not kill all his pregnant sheep and then complain when there are no lambs in the spring.

    Kill an egg laden salmon, and you are killing your future sport.

    I have heard loads of talk about fish dying when put back etc, but I would like to see the proof before i make judgement. I had access to a private trout water where ALL fish were returned. I never saw a dead fish, and never saw the sport suffer. If any of u have seen fish grading machines on a fish farm, you will have seen just how tough trout and salmon are.

    What do u guys think?

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    Fergal Scully Guest

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    With catch and release fish need to be handled with care. I have seen dying fish on catch and release fisheries but they were from poor handling or deep hooking. Just like pike angling everyone needs to be eduacated on catch and release.

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    Rob Brownfield Guest

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    fergal, I agree with the poor handling statement. Unfortuantly, some of the worst fish handling I have seen has been on the banks of the River Don here in Aberdeenshire.

    I hope one day that these great rivers return to there former glory.

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    Ron Clay Guest

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    I'm all for catch and release if it's done properly. Many trout anglers need specific education in catch and release. Unfortunately there are very few articles in the magazines on how this should be done.
    Maybe some editor out there is listening.

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    Alan Roe Guest

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    As a general principal I agree with catch and release and it has been my practise for many years.
    I have always worked on the basis that I don't need a freezer full of corpses to show what a good angler I am!!.
    BUT and here's the rub I equally do not want to see c&r turn into a religion in which all must follow. There has to be room for the occasional fish to grace the table.
    As in all things common-sense needs to be the guiding principle and given the appropriate guidance most will act in a sensible manner.
    The biggest problem area will be the commercial fishery sector where anglers still belive that their day ticket is equall to the sum of the bag limit. This thinking will take some shifting as for years some of the trout fishing media has tended to specialise in articles on 'How to get your limit'.
    A further proliferation in c&r 'Sport Tickets'may go somewhere towards hepling this process combined with education.
    The other problem lies within the current general understanding of the role of the rainbow trout which is regarded as a non native fast growing food fish with a short life span.
    How you change that I will leave to the educators!!
    Cheers
    Alan

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    Rob Brownfield Guest

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    Some fair comments there. Greed is an over riding factor of humans I am affraid. I have killed Sea trout and Rainbows/browns in the past, but I find myself becomming more alienated towards game fishing. There seems to be very little put back into the rivers in the way of conservation, and far to much *its the netsmens fault, the seals are killing the salmon, the otters are killing the parr*

    People must face there responsibilities and stop reaping without sowing!!

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    Dave Johnson Guest

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    I have tended to fish sport tickets wherever possible as I really dont feel the need to get my 'moneys worth' with 15 quids worth of trout in the boot of the car after a session. I think I have perhaps taken three or four fish in the last two seasons, one deep hooked and a couple for me nan.
    Boat fishing is so much easier to c&r with barbless hooks, but you do have to rest the bigger fish after a good fight.
    That aside, you can get a ready gutted trout from Sainsburys for just over a quid-if you like fish that much!
    Yes it will also take some time for the culture to change towards releasing 'game fish', but I think on the whole, most of the fisheries around me do give the option.
    And as for 'knocking a brownie'......

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    I see no harm in taking the odd fish for the pot. It's those anglers who always take their limit to distribute around neighbours, etc, who abuse the right.

    And I include all edible fish in that statement, not just game fish - zander, small pike, eels....... Any reasonably edible fish that is not considered a rare species.

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    Rob Brownfield Guest

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    Graham, what can I say!! I am a little suprised at the pike/zander statement. I would question the legality of removing fish from a commercial fishery for starters. But, on the otherhand, I guess taking livebaits or killing a Roach for bait is no different.

    I abhore Pike being killed, but i guess thats because I have seen mass slaughters of Pike on Trout waters near me.

    As for me, I prefer a nice piece of smoked Makerel

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    Fergal Scully Guest

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    I'm also all for the right to take the odd fish of non rare species for the table. At the end of the day mackeral is more of an endangered species than pike or zander. I'm all for conservation of pike but its the big pike of over ten pounds that really need preserving because they control the numbers of smaller pike. Killing a pike of say between 2 and 6 pounds is not going to damage a fishery. Its hypocritical to say that absolutely no pike or zander can be killed when the same anglers use mackeral and coarse deadbaits which are other anglers quarry. Its also worth pointing out that smelt are become rare in our estuaries now because of the market for pike bait.

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