Well well well......what an interesting day watching the squabbling masses, I am not surprised, Angling, but nay thrice nay, Barbel fishing has been the loser with this debate. I thought Steve's original comments were about so called celebrity anglers (I prefer to call them tackle tarts who sell them selves to the highest bidder) and what Steve believes constitutes the making of a celebrity angler, it is clear (read my post) I have no time for them, just as I have no time for the so called Celebs in big brother, or some Hello type mag. We will never all agree on something and Steve with the position he has as BS chairman will never please all the people all of the time, it goes with the territory, but he is ultimately a good man, a political animal yes, but I do wish we could be congenial about these things and constructive, but like all forms of institutionalised Angling you will always have someone, somewhere saying (best brummie accent here) yo doe wanna do it like that, yo wanna do it like this......the focus should be on the celeb culture that we are cursed with at the moment and save your venom for the creators of it, the papers and the mags we all buy each week and each month.