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    Default Re: The 50lber – Let’s see the doubters’ ‘proof’!

    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff Hatton View Post
    Comments noted, but our viewing statistics would suggest interest 10 x that for other topics.
    I would suggest most of us are bored stiff by the whole story - which is almost a troll for the sake of viewing statistics.
    Equally sort of fascinated and following it to see when someone eventually throws their toys out the pram and threatens to whack someone.
    But your site, so there we go, but please don't take the viewing figures as genuine interest.

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    Default Re: The 50lber – Let’s see the doubters’ ‘proof’!

    Quote Originally Posted by Philip View Post
    Your consistently dredging up a story his wife wants to go away on a public forum for which you are the editor & therefore providing the platform for the doubters to drag his name through the mud.

    I note you side stepped the important bit again.

    is Yvonne aware this is happening ?





    And a stack of multicoloured Kayaks. How can you possibly continue to omit this rather major item on such a consistent basis.
    1) I don't think so, Phil.

    2) Probably just to keep it simple, Phil...nothing else; and we're not sure they were kayaks...could have been though.

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    Default Re: The 50lber – Let’s see the doubters’ ‘proof’!

    Just remind me for the avoidance of any doubt in this story....

    1) Did MG visit Canada?
    2) Did he catch any carp when he was there?
    3) When was the photo actually taken?

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    Default Re: The 50lber – Let’s see the doubters’ ‘proof’!

    Quote Originally Posted by Philip View Post
    And a stack of multicoloured Kayaks. How can you possibly continue to omit this rather major item on such a consistent basis.
    Hi Philip.................................No one has ever said that there was a stack of multicoloured Kayaks in the photo. Not everyone who saw the photos remembered any objects, too focused on the massive English Common that Martin was holding I guess. What I said, and I can't remember my exact words, was that there were some objects which I could not identify stacked up against the fence. This led to speculation as to what they were and someone came up with the Kayak theory.
    I contacted Terry Brady the Environmental Advisor at Lennox and he told me "I can't imagine that Kayaks have ever been leaning against our fence at the outfall channel. In the 18 years I've been working here I have never seen anyone kayaking here. The water is just too big, and usually rough. I see the lake all day because my office overlooks it". This information was published in my article - The Martin Gay Commons - Time to decide.
    Some time after Terry told me that he had received a phone call from someone (a male) asking about Kayaks stacked up the fence. He thought that it was most odd that anyone would phone him and ask that.
    I'm not sure if he gave me the mans name but he did give the phone number which I have on record.
    I will check my records to see and let you know, although I don't think it will add anything regarding the 'objects' stacked against the fence.
    I suppose we could conclude that if they were indeed Kayaks then it was not Lennox warm water outfall.
    Last edited by eddiebenham; 16-10-2019 at 14:09. Reason: Incorrect information deleted

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    Default Re: The 50lber – Let’s see the doubters’ ‘proof’!

    Eddie,

    I have given you my opinion based on the "facts" as you presented them . . . . and would ask the same question of the Carp Society's "evidence"

    As I said earlier, I spent altogether far too long, for a casual observer, reading a multitude of threads on here and on the Fishingwharehouse sites and nothing so far had convinced me of the veracity of either side's case.

    Whenever faced with conflicting sets of "evidence" the final ruling is based on a logical test of a reasonable man, or as the law defines it, "the man on the Clapham omnibus" . . . . it is therefore entirely up to that test, as applied by the logical minds here on FM.

    In the final analysis I am left contemplating two very apt quotes from one of my favourite tomes, Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra, Don Quixote:

    “Do you see over yonder, friend Sancho, thirty or forty hulking giants? I intend to do battle with them and slay them.”

    Secondly:

    “Finally, from so little sleeping and so much reading, his brain dried up and he went completely out of his mind.”
    Last edited by Peter Jacobs; 16-10-2019 at 08:59.

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    Default Re: The 50lber – Let’s see the doubters’ ‘proof’!

    Every time just recently when I click onto my favourite forum this thread is at the top of the page, I don’t wish to offend anyone involved but isn’t this a terrible advert for angling? A group of guys squabbling over the proof of a single fish and just going on and on and on.......

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    Default Re: The 50lber – Let’s see the doubters’ ‘proof’!

    Quote Originally Posted by fishface1 View Post
    Just remind me for the avoidance of any doubt in this story....

    1) Did MG visit Canada?
    2) Did he catch any carp when he was there?
    3) When was the photo actually taken?

    Thanks
    I only know for sure, fishface, that Martin and his wife visited Banff National Park at least once. Other than that I don't actually know. Perhaps Eddie can add something.

    I can tell you that Martin didn't fish in Canada. It is inconceivable that he wouldn't have mentioned it to Eddie or myself during one of our many, many get-togethers if he had fished there: a very important point.

    The shot of the big one was taken July 1989.

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    Default Re: The 50lber – Let’s see the doubters’ ‘proof’!

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Jacobs View Post
    I have given you my opinion based on the "facts" as you presented them . . . . and would ask the same question of the Carp Society's "evidence
    Hi Peter........................I asked you to make simple choice and you have not done so.
    Last edited by Cliff Hatton; 16-10-2019 at 11:23.

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    Default Re: The 50lber – Let’s see the doubters’ ‘proof’!

    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff Hatton View Post
    I only know for sure, fishface, that Martin and his wife visited Banff National Park at least once. Other than that I don't actually know. Perhaps Eddie can add something.

    I can tell you that Martin didn't fish in Canada. It is inconceivable that he wouldn't have mentioned it to Eddie or myself during one of our many, many get-togethers if he had fished there: a very important point.

    The shot of the big one was taken July 1989.
    Away you avoided the question It is well documented that Martin visited Canada
    You opinion is that he did not fish in Canada
    There is a lot of convincing opinion on various fora that he did

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    Default Re: The 50lber – Let’s see the doubters’ ‘proof’!

    As, other than metaphorically, completely disappearing up ones own rectum isn't actually possible, I'm sad to say there is only one way that this will ever really end. I reckon that it might all be all done and dusted in no more than thirty years.

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