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    Default Brown v White, which is the best?

    One of my favourite baits over the years has been bread. Whether it's used fresh as flake, or stale, and made up into paste, it's a bait that has caught me many many fish, including some big ones.

    But one thing I have often wondered is whether brown bread is superior to white.

    When I lived in South Africa, the locals swore by brown or whole meal paste, and so did I. I did well with it for many years.

    But here in the UK you hardly ever see an angler using brown bread, when quite honestly brown bread has far more aroma and taste than white, which has had all the goodness stripped out of it.

    And to tell the truth, I also use more white bread these days, when perhaps I shouldn't.

    But what do you think?

    Brown or white?

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    Speaking as an old ex baker. White will always be softer when used as flake. I've used both when fished as paste & always found white to be superior. This maybe because it's more visible

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    I'll stick to white and red maggots. Using bread on my local river will get you lots of blanks whatever colour it is.

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    After bream fishing in Ireland many moons ago and twice forgetting to pack my bulk sack of bread crumb consequently having to buy a load of the local dark tar smelling tack; catch rate was poor but mid way through both holidays I managed to find an English angler at the end of their trips and bought the remainder of their groundbait.... Resulting a dramatic improvement in my catch rate.

    As a kid my parents used to inflict wholemeal bread on me, so obviously had only that to take as a quick grab bait but when I went fishing with a mate he'd always take white sliced and I reckon it doubled the number of chub caught.

    White may have a lot of its nutrients bleached out of it but to my mind it's at least twice as effective compared to brown.
    Maybe its the visual aspect or that white has a higher starch content, I don't know???

    Another plus too white is being softer it stays on the hook better.

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    Ron,I used to fish the Vaal Dam back in the mid 70's for carp(a family member had a farm onto the dam)and yes they used a brown bread paste BUT I'm sure they added a flavour to it otherwise they didn't catch......cannot recall what they used though!

    Never found brown bread made good paste in the UK(even using my own home-made bread where I can adjust quantities or add flavours!)....the consistency just never seems right somehow...but thats NOT to say it cannot be made to work!

    .........perhaps someone has a recipe for brown bread that does produce good paste?

    As far as shop bought stuff is concerned,brown/wholemeal(seems)much drier than white even fresh from the bag and also(seems)to dry out quicker on the bank and definitely goes hard quicker in cool water so I stick to white which,like you,has served me well over the years.....why change a winning formulae??

    Still,an interesting Thread and perhaps others will have more to say on brown bread.....I hope so!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tee-Cee View Post
    Ron,I used to fish the Vaal Dam back in the mid 70's for carp(a family member had a farm onto the dam)and yes they used a brown bread paste BUT I'm sure they added a flavour to it otherwise they didn't catch......cannot recall what they used though!

    Never found brown bread made good paste in the UK(even using my own home-made bread where I can adjust quantities or add flavours!)....the consistency just never seems right somehow...but thats NOT to say it cannot be made to work!

    .........perhaps someone has a recipe for brown bread that does produce good paste?
    The South Africans were well known for their flavours TC, some of which would shock a lot of UK anglers; for example: TCP!!

    One variety of brown bread paste I found extremely successful was made up by using local cheap brandy!

    But then many SA fish species were alcoholics didn't you know.

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    Ron..don't I feel a right twit!

    Walking a river this morning and it came to me out of the blue(like these things do!)that it wasn't bread paste fished on the Vaal Dam but paste made from mealies!
    I seem to remember it was mealie-pap or maybe similar....to the breakfast porridge....don't know how it was made up though!

    My distant memory recalls breakfast at the farm was a savoury version of mealie-pap with a thick brown meat sauce or gravy poured over the top but it had a different name(?)......anyway it was wonderful to have before a days fishing!!

    Perhaps mealies would make a good paste in the UK.......have you ever tried it??
    Last edited by Tee-Cee; 29-08-2010 at 17:24.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron The Hat Clay View Post
    The South Africans were well known for their flavours TC, some of which would shock a lot of UK anglers; for example: TCP!!

    One variety of brown bread paste I found extremely successful was made up by using local cheap brandy!

    But then many SA fish species were alcoholics didn't you know.

    Many british fish species are too, if you think about swordsies comments on catching on fermented bird seed on the trent, the french penchent for well stewed maize.

    plus i've had good results on fermented maize and hemp concoctions.

    i'd never even considered using brown bread as bait assuming that it's different texture would make it a bit of a nightmare, as it just doesn't have the same texture as white breads which are good on the hook.

    (i really should have put other than as crumb in ground bait when i wrote that about brown)
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    I like fishing white warburtons fished over brown liquidised. A recent discovery actually, and one that I think has some merit. Not quite sure why as yet...
    Next cast ...

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    Sound like a better option rufus..........I agree on the'why' bit....some bright spark will have an answer.....

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