Ray..If you was'nt on the bank, i would undoubtably catch them all! however i do leave you the odd one! as i'm a nice bloke and your the head bailiff, (and a defeatest). The reason that 'pink' meat does spook fish on occassions on some fisheries, is because it is, and has been used in the 'wrong' way. When i did my study on the "Royalty" in the 80's, meat produced between 250-322 barbel for me evey year for seven years. Everyone was using it and that was one of the most 'pressurised' fisheries in the country! I'm not doing anything much different today, and all of my Oooouszze catches, which i won't mention, have come on meat, but other anglers catch on all other baits also, (except you). I'm happy with my catch rate and i love what i'm doing, just like you. Roving and Rolling is a choice, but i stalk and fish static with a number of change baits but meat is the most visible for sight fishing and in my experience the most productive for me, but again not on all venues, and probably because they've been heavily pre-baited with pastes and boilies. I also use coloured meat which does eliminate the pink problem! If you give a barbel a choice of baits, it will definately make a choice. If you don't then it will generally eat what it's given.... Oi ray how's your pussy fishin?