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    Carp Angler Guest

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    Will people sell or promote anything to either gain exposure or money?

    A quote from the Haiths/Supercatch site reads as follows...
    "Any carp angler worth his salt will not need Ken or Haith's to tell them that carp find all bird foods particularly appetizing and a quick glance through our product range should convince you that we have a vast range of products that are guaranteed to have carp queuing up in your swim. Or as Ken Townley said, "At last, here is a range of particles, groundbaits and ingredients at sensible prices that you can afford, baits that may even transform your fishing as never before."

    Now the crunch, have any of you read the Beekay Guide To Carp Baits by Ken Townley, written in 1998?
    Under the particle section there are several quotes I'd like to share with you all.

    "Apart from using a few kilos of cooked maize from time to time when fishing in France, I have not used a particle bait for nearly ten years and quite frankly I doubt if I shall be tempted to do so again. The use of mass baits, pellets, ball pellets and groundbaits in conjunction with well formulated boilies is a far more effective method of catching carp than the use of particle baits.
    Frankly I am pleased that the widespread use of particles has lost its popularity."

    Am I being over-sensitive or is this just someone with no moral stance whatsoever contradicting himself to gain some sponsorship and money?

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    Paul Williams Guest

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    No Rik i don't think you are bieng over sensitive, we would all like a bit of buckshee gear if the truth be known but hopefully for the right reasons.
    Incedently have you noticed that maggots have been invented for catching carp in all the mags just lately.....if only we had known eh mate...)

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    David OLoughlin Guest

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    I've been known to expose myself & I'm cheap but apart from yourself Rik, no-ones given me any tackle. (Not even Bennetts & I paid for that!)

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    Mike Fidler Guest

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    Oh dear, you found him out! Rik, these guys have a living to make and if you looked hard enough I'm sure we could pull all of them up for promoting/giving their name to different products and statements over the years which are totally different from the current thoughts and products. I wonder which reels Matt Hayes uses now he is a 100% Fox etc...

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    David Will Guest

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    My fave quote by a 'carp expert' was 'In high summer boilies are not as effective as other times, now is the time to get onto particles ,personally I do not because of my association with a bait company'.
    Now that is either the most honest thing ever written in a Carp mag or the biggest load of xxxxx ever.Take your pick.
    As far as bait companies and those employed I think morals do not enter the equation.

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    Paul Williams Guest

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    What about the guy who changes his T shirt 3 times with a big carp.....all displaying different bait companys.....none of which caught the fish!!!!!!......like everything in life there are boundries....the desperate will cross them!

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    How about the number of rigs which are accredited to an individual. In Fred Bullers book on monster Pike he shows a few things which would open a few peoples eyes today, like PVA, hair rigs.
    My father tells me he was using leaded fly line to deck the rig back in the 60s. Is there much being used today that somebody has not already had a go at?. What rigs or tactics does anybody know of that are unique (maybe)


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    Peter Morton Guest

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    Will you get into bed with me for 5000000 said the tackle baron to the specialist?
    YES YES YES!!!!!!!!
    How about for 1?
    WHAT DO YOU THINK I AM?
    We have already established that,we are just haggling about the price!!!!!!!!

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    Andy Nellist Guest

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    Its a fact of life that blagging,hype and fashion are used to sell a lot of fishing gear and bait. This forum provides a great opportunity for anglers to sort the wheat from the chaff !

    There are no absolutes in angling, what leads to success is the correct application of a methods/tackle/bait etc in particular circumstances. The ability to get it right through research,intuition or experience is what leads to consistent sucess. Most anglers fail to realise that relying on tips (many of which are blag or hype) is not a shortcut consistently good catches.

    Who invented what and when is of historical interest but what is really of use to anglers is knowing how success was achieved in a particular set of circumstances so that they can learn from what has been done before.

    The true angling greats of the past have been successful anglers who were able to share their methods and experience in a way that other anglers copuld really benefit from them.


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    I like the idea of fashion hype in fishing Andy. It must of cost Warren a small fortune.
    He was wearing his favourite 'named' leiderhossen on Friday and it still clashed with the boat.

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