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    I'm thinking of having a go for pike on the fly. Has anyone got any experience of this, and would like to share it?

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    Les Clark Guest

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    Well done Roger ,a superb catch .

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    pons Guest

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    Seriously good sport,by design.
    Very well done Roger.
    Pons.

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    Budgie Burgess Guest

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    In the past there has been a lot of disscusion on the forum about this subject Graham.Lots of very varying opinions on the best tackle,best flies etc even if its "sporting" or not!

    I started fly fishing for pike just to extend some of the trout res's I fished at the times seasons! Found it an extremely good method for fishing over near surface weed or very shallow margins.

    Ive used various size outfits from my saltwater big game stuff down to normal reservoir tackle.Ive come to the conclussion that an AFTM8 is all you need.

    Some of the "Bug" taper lines available from the US are helpfull in casting the large flies used.These lines tend to have shorter,heavier heads than normal lines.

    For the leader I use a brand of nylon called "Tynex" which is very stiff and made up with several sizes into a tapered leader helps turnover,this can be quite difficult with the large flies.

    On the subject of casting being able to "double haul" really helps.

    The tippet is made from some nylon covered wire that I got from the US "In-Fisherman" magazine.Its really unique in that to attach your fly you just put it through the eye,twist it up by hand then heat it with a cigarette lighter! this then "bonds" together.Ive had upper 20's on it without any problems.You can use a small snap link to atach your flies to the wire but once again Ive found this causes problems with tangling on the cast.

    The most used fly I have is the 8" Dalburgh (sp?) Diver.This is a fly made up with a spun then clipped to shape deer hair head.The head is shaped to give a coller which acts like a diving vane.
    The body uses various light weight,water reppellant materials that give the impression of size but dont add weight.Once youve mastered the art of spinning deer hair they are simple to make.

    Dont like "Zonker" strip type flies as they get waterlogged and heavy which makes casting hard.

    I normally use a floating line as most of the time I choose the fly rod these days it is to fish shallow areas but I have caught them on the same bouyant DD flies fished on fast sinking lines kind of "Booby nymph" style.

    The reel I use is a System 2 disc drag reel that I origonally got (and still use) for bonefish and permit.All though that said any reservoir sized fly reel works ok and Ive used my Bob Church Line Shooter for Hi D Shooting head work no problems.

    Not a very wide range of experience but Ive stuck to what Ive wrote because it has worked for me!

    Never understood the guys who reccomend heavy salt water tackle as its just not needed.The stuff they reccomend is often the same outfits as used for sailfish!

    AFTM7-8 casts the flies and certainly (if used correctly) lands fish just as quick as most lure outfits. Ive found the old Normark Speed Tip to make a good pike fly rod. I think its rated rather broadly at 8-10(?) but I use an 8 on mine ok.

    Well thats about all I can offer Graham.

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    Thanks Budgie, good advice appreciated.

    I had one short go on an Irish lough with a fly rod for pike (someone else's) and I know what you mean about knowing how to double haul.

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    Sean Meeghan Guest

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    I'm very jealous Roger! Very well done!

    Graham, I use a 10 weight Fulling Mill rod, but it is slightly over-rated and would probably be better with a 9 line. Personally I think a 9 weight rod is ideal, but you need a fast action. Not much to add to what Budgie says otherwise. I've used my gear on the Wharfe and its been great fun with Pike up to low double figures. I've also had Perch up to just under 2lb.

    I think the problem with fly fishing for pike is that its always been a bit suck it and see with sea and reservoir tackle being pressed into service. Certainly I found it difficult to find a suitable rod in my local shops and had to resort to mail order, which is never ideal. Flies are really easy to tie and it fun playing around with new materials.

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    Sean Meeghan Guest

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    Oh and keep the trace as minimalist as possible: no swivels, just a secure snap link (not the dog lead type as they come undone)and a small ring at either end. Casting feels realy horrible until you get used to it, but you soon get into the rythm.

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    mark williams 4 Guest

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    Graham. I have been similarly afflicted in recent weeks, now starting to look for the rod I'll need. I'm sticking with my Okuma Airstream reel.

    It might be fun to get the FM 'We'll try anything once' gang together for an experimental water-thrashing - maybe one of the big ressies a bit later in the year.

    We could then pool our lack of knowledge (with the exceptions of the sauvants above) and take the mickey out of each others flies....

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    Thanks Sean. Great idea Mark, let's go for it, later in the year (September/October?) as you say. Is Chew the venue to go for?

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    mark williams 4 Guest

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    Chew is about as far from my house as it's possible to be in the UK.... but it would be more of an adventure.

    There's Grafam and Ruttie, too, and for that matter Llandegfedd.

    What's good about fly fishing for pike is that the rules on most trout fisheries allow it all year round...

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