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    Default Fishing a centerpin in the wind...

    Apparently one of the reasons the ABU closed face was so successful in the Uk was because match anglers found them useful in windy conditions. These are going to be the most pragmatic of folk but I have to say. unless you are fishing with yer rod hand at full stretch, just forming a small 'O' with thumb and a finger of the other hand close to the reel is very effective to keep the line, in-line It also helps filter out the effects of the line bedding into the line below it. I laid some expensive florocarbon I didn't like as backing. It will be off soon. How much of that 4lb line do I need in a mostly 20 yard swim? I'm not a CP fanatic but I reckon, given my small river I can float or ledger quite effectively without the added expense of another reel.

    Ps: got three Power 100's. Total cost £9.45 Just like the centerpin you can't take them for granted but they work.

    PPs: Fancy an ABU Closed face but even obvious rubbish never gets below £20 plus post

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    Default Re: Fishing a centerpin in the wind...

    I have 2 pins that I like to use,a Martin Bowler sig with 4.4lb Drennan float fish and a JW Heritage with 7lb float fish,I like to use the MB for trotting and usually put 100yds on straight off the spool.The Wilson Heritage I use for freelining baits into snaggy swims and also for ledgering,use the ratchet for bite indication,again loading 100yd spools.For a 20yd swim you could halve that amount but once you've had a few tangles[even with a line guard]you'll probably need to cut some line free[and dispose of safely]so 100yds works for me.
    I believe 1 pin could do it all so no need for anything else.......but then again who do you know who's only bought 1 after using one for the first time....

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    I've been out trotting today and had a strong gusty wind blowing upstream but it was fine. I prefer a pin with no line guard or if it has then I remove it. I used to use a abu 501 years ago before I could afford a pin but in all honesty the 501's not anywhere near as good as a pin...no reel is as good as a pin for trotting if you can use one proficiantly.

    If I knew I wouldn't be trotting any further than 20yds then i'd spool up about 40yds incase of a tangle and the loss of a few yds or if I hooked a large fish that may take line.

    I always remove my line after every trotting session and bin it. I re-spool my reel just before the next trip. I use bulk spools of sensor which makes it economically acceptable to do this...nothing better than freshly spooled line when trotting .

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    Pretty much the same as tigger except I use a different make of line. With too much line on the pin the line will begin to bed in and then may stick when using the flow to set the reel spinning as you trot. If I was trotting 20 yards I wouldn’t put more than 40 yards of line on.
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    Default Re: Fishing a centerpin in the wind...

    I have a couple of old strike right centrepins which I use for trotting and sometimes for close margin fishing and they work perfectly, plus are cheap as chips. I was bought a new shadowland centrepin (cost about a tenner new)as a prezzie and I have to say it is terrible. Line getting caught and tangles galore. I have always wondered how expensive some centrepins are compared to fixed spool reels,(except the afore-mentioned prezzie) which are much more complicated in their construction. I have never used a closed face reel, maybe I should try one.

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    Default Re: Fishing a centerpin in the wind...

    I've got a 501 which I picked up for around £16 (plus postage) on Ebay. They are nice reels to trot with, but they aren't the best for playing decent fish on. Modern fixed spools are now pretty much as good as the 500 series for trotting as manual bail arms make the dreaded slack line after the strike a thing of the past.

    As an all round trotting reel I like the Rapidex best as I find the caged construction suits me better than an open drum. True pins have a slight "stickyness" that bearing pins don't. This works well in all but the slowest of water.
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    Default Re: Fishing a centerpin in the wind...

    I changed my ABU 501 for a Diawa Harrier 120m when it came out. Best closed face ever IMHO. Still got and use it on stillwater too when silver fishing.

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    Default Re: Fishing a centerpin in the wind...

    Quote Originally Posted by Sean Meeghan View Post
    I've got a 501 which I picked up for around £16 (plus postage) on Ebay. They are nice reels to trot with, but they aren't the best for playing decent fish on. Modern fixed spools are now pretty much as good as the 500 series for trotting as manual bail arms make the dreaded slack line after the strike a thing of the past.
    Very true.Years ago ,before I caught pin fever, I spent 10-12 years doing very little other than trotting with fine lines and a 501. Brilliant...until you hooked a lump when it was a nightmare.The so-called "syncro drag" was rubbish...you had to backwind like crazy & hope for the best.Good job there weren't so many carp around then.

    Never understood this thing about fixed spools & striking when trotting. I always struck on an open bail using my finger to trap the line and dropped the bail in by hand as and when. Seemed the obvious thing to do & I dont recall bumping fish as being a problem.

    I dont often use my 501's now but whenever I do I'm glad I hung onto them.Still as good as the day I bought them 30 odd years ago.
    Last edited by S-Kippy; 27-12-2011 at 22:26.

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    I like braid for trotting, I have 2 pins, a Marco cortesi and a youngs bob James super lightweight, both are spoiled with 6lb fireline, I use a couple of feet of reflo powerline ( 0.13), can't beat it, solid connection on very long runs, you feel everything.... Not bumped a single fish, had as small as minnows through to a 13 lb cock salmon on this set up

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    Default Re: Fishing a centerpin in the wind...

    Sean,
    Could you please explain your statement "True pins have a slight "stickyness" that bearing pins don't."

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