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Two sides to every story!

I agree totally with Chefster's first paragraph; As anglers become more experienced (and get older) the need to read fishing publications probably reduces dramatically until they realise that much of what they is either repeats or nothing to do with the particular branch of the sport they are interested in.
As a young chap I used to buy every publication known to man to quench my thirst for knowledge, and without doubt, it helped me tremendously. I wanted to catch big fish so what better way than to devour everything written by the likes of Taylor(s), Stone, Walker and later, Bailey and others like Wilson PLUS a host of match anglers such as Marks et al...............
I grew up with little money available for fishing equipment and many's the time when a single float had to suffice for rivers or stillwaters so reading what the 'experts' had to say gave me the 2nd best option of gaining 'experience' via the written word.
It was they that taught me how shotting worked and for what float, it was they that taught me the basics of floating baits and ledgering etc etc. The list I endless...

Ivan Marks and all those other fine match anglers who fished matches along side him imparted so much knowledge every week, (plus the little extras like free floats from people such as John Dean and Marks) that I could hardly keep up with all those 'weeklies' offered'
To this day, along with my own interpretations of how to solve a fishing problem, I still refer to cuttings and books from that time....

So, in my opinion, it is quite wrong to suggest that they are a waste of time and/or a waste of money. To those who know, (or think they know) everything about our sport I can fully understand why they have become 'surplus to requirements', BUT for those new to the sport, and are willing to learn, and crave the same knowledge I wanted al those years ago, I say go forth and buy all you can and devour all they have to offer. Eventually you will sort the wheat from the chaff and decide who offers the info best suited to you.

I use 1,5lb bottoms to 18 hooks, I use a 6 tied to heavy line, and I know WHY I do so. I understand how baits and groundbaits work simply because of what I learnt all those years ago, and although I don't read any publication now I shall always be thankful that I did !!

You only have to read some of the questions on FM to see how some struggle with different methods simply because the don't have the background knowledge. Reading weeklies, at least in the beginning, can only HELP set new fishermen on the right track...
Ask yourself the question - How do you explain 'balanced tackle' to young anglers? Yes, you can say "just do what I do" (or say), BUT surely, they, if they are interested, need words and diagrams to really believe what it means.
Did I take notice of my father over what I read - no, I followed the experts every week!!!

So don't knock these publications out of hand................They may not help YOU anymore (which I doubt!), but they can, and will, help others.

That's me done for the day...........................................
 

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I know they are magazines and not weekly papers but I have the first 12 issues of the old 'Creel magazine' in a folder, and if today's fishing magazines were anything near as good as them I would still be reading them today.

They contain interesting articles and stories written by top anglers (without continually plugging baits and tackle) and they even contain the blueprints for a centrepin reel for those that are technically minded and want to make their own.
The photos and drawings in them are superb, as are the articles.

'Waterlog' magazine is a current magazine that is also supposed to be good.

Keith
 
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I know they are magazines and not weekly papers but I have the first 12 issues of the old 'Creel magazine' in a folder, and if today's fishing magazines were anything near as good as them I would still be reading them today.

They contain interesting articles and stories written by top anglers (without continually plugging baits and tackle) and they even contain the blueprints for a centrepin reel for those that are technically minded and want to make their own.
The photos and drawings in them are superb, as are the articles.

'Waterlog' magazine is a current magazine that is also supposed to be good.

Keith

THE mag of the 60's Keith, I had every copy of Creel but due to moving, and getting rid of 'clutter' many years ago am unfortunately only left with the number 1 issue from July '63.
 

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I can remember buying the creel but is was far superior to anything else published at the time and it was not cheap and it did not publish for very long maybe due to the price. Everything about it was quality the print the paper it was printed on everything about was top line but it did not last long at all I seem to remember it was less than a season.
 

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Yes, Creel was a great mag and why it disappeared so quickly was hard to understand. As tinker says, it was quality but perhaps it was too expensive to produce for the numbers it sold in the shops....

Regards Waterlog...I know all magazines are a matter of taste, but I think this particular one certainly was! I bought them when Chris Yates was involved and have several dozen in racks. TBH I really enjoyed them for the variety of article, the drawings and photographs, but eventually I tired of them when they seemed to move even more toward trout fishing and the like
 
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One magazine I wish hadn't folded was Coarse Fisherman, good articles and most unbiased tackle review of any mag, they compared tackle products and said which was best - may be why it went bust
 

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I get my dads old Anglers Mails and the first place i look is in the 'where to fish' section as i'm always looking for new stretches of rivers around the country.
 
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On the subject of magazines ,i also buy Match fishing and Pole fishing mag,which are monthly and these are fairly expensive,and yes there are adverts and some similar articles,but with the likes of Des Shipp,Alan Scotthorne,Steve Ringer writing articles,there is no way you can fail to learn,however experienced an angler you are,i,ve been fishing for 40 years,but these guys are on a different planet and every time i read an article by them i feel that i have learned more than just sat on the bank...Chef
 

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On the subject of magazines ,i also buy Match fishing and Pole fishing mag,which are monthly and these are fairly expensive,and yes there are adverts and some similar articles,but with the likes of Des Shipp,Alan Scotthorne,Steve Ringer writing articles,there is no way you can fail to learn,however experienced an angler you are,i,ve been fishing for 40 years,but these guys are on a different planet and every time i read an article by them i feel that i have learned more than just sat on the bank...Chef

I also buy those mags articles by the some of the top anglers in the world. Lots of little wrinkles to be gleaned from those mags.
 

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I know they are magazines and not weekly papers but I have the first 12 issues of the old 'Creel magazine' in a folder, and if today's fishing magazines were anything near as good as them I would still be reading them today.



Cor.....you lucky devil!
I was a £3.12/6p a week apprentice toolmaker when they came out and would have loved to have been able to afford even one of those.

I was a NASA memebr from start to finish and still have all my old Specialist Angler mags in their blue ring binders.
Even today, reading the articles in those old editions, you can understand why there are so many true 'fishcatchers' out there who never sought publicity and only wrote to further the pusuit of specimen fish.
From what I have read today's Whiz Kid instant expert writers are only just negining to understand what 'fishing by design' is all about.

As for buying a rod, reel or anything else endorsed by a scruffy kid with long unwashed hair and half a beard......no thank you :eek:mg:


A confession, I did by one of the weekly comics when they were giving away magnetic hook boxes, simply because I needed the box and the ones in the shops were £6 more, scanned the pages and dumped it, nothing new except zillions more adds for dragon whatever and their huge P&P charges, did notice that.

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Cor.....you lucky devil!
I was a £3.12/6p a week apprentice toolmaker when they came out and would have loved to have been able to afford even one of those.

I was a NASA memebr from start to finish and still have all my old Specialist Angler mags in their blue ring binders.
Even today, reading the articles in those old editions, you can understand why there are so many true 'fishcatchers' out there who never sought publicity and only wrote to further the pusuit of specimen fish.
From what I have read today's Whiz Kid instant expert writers are only just negining to understand what 'fishing by design' is all about.

As for buying a rod, reel or anything else endorsed by a scruffy kid with long unwashed hair and half a beard......no thank you :eek:mg:


A confession, I did by one of the weekly comics when they were giving away magnetic hook boxes, simply because I needed the box and the ones in the shops were £6 more, scanned the pages and dumped it, nothing new except zillions more adds for dragon whatever and their huge P&P charges, did notice that.

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It was another world in another time.
 

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mick b is right about the same old stuff being regurgitated on a regular basis. The glossy mags do the same as the weeklies. There will be article on centre pins, then supermarket baits, then how to fish a commercial far shelf then Its predator time again, etc etc. Then when you count the number of articles to the ratio of pages dedicated to adverts and reviews that also amount to adverts for this or that new "must have" bait you realise there is not much new material/content.
 

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How about a new magazine 'FM - The magazine for Real Fishermen' with all contributions given free by FM regulars...No ads, just pure fishing articles by our own 'experts' !!

Must be a winner...Oh, and all printing costs covered by the FM coffers.........
 
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Whenever these threads pop up there is always the predictable 'haven't bought it for years... regurgitated material... et al response' and this is understandable from anglers with decades of experience under their belt, but back in the day when I started fishing I didn't have an Uncle Bob who knew bl**dy everything to teach me, and mags were a valuable resource for learning....

I regularly buy CAT these days, IMHO the best on the market since the demise of Course Fisherman... I also buy AT and AM from time to time if authors I respect are present or a genuinely new technique/ bait etc is explained.

However the Angling Press can be their own worst enemy... the major publications hate competition and from a financial point of view naturally prefer homogenized advertorials to unbiased thoughtful output that allows the author free reign on their choice of tackle, bait etc...

Back in the day Midland/ Southern Angler was a cracking read with local features from local fishermen but DHP made sure when they sold it that it was doomed to failure by preventing the new owners using any advertisers they had ever used for a fixed period, effectively killing a perfectly viable and popular brand which they perceived could be competition...

Such a shame because what we are left with is bland national publications that publicise the same fisheries and brands week on repetitive week..

Be careful what you wish for though; I personally want to see angling magazines on the racks in the newsagent because, however imperfect, they are, in part, the future of our sport
 
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How about a new magazine 'FM - The magazine for Real Fishermen' with all contributions given free by FM regulars...No ads, just pure fishing articles by our own 'experts' !!

Must be a winner...Oh, and all printing costs covered by the FM coffers.........

Are they that well off I was a in the print for 50 years. A good quality mag like the Creel with no advertising would cost a packet. somewhere in the region of a tenner each if you want that all round quality.
 

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What would I miss ? Nothing. I gave up buying any sort of angling publication and daily newspaper over 3 years ago when beloved daughter went to Uni. That saved me probably £35 a month....say £350 a year which paid for all my club memberships,licence,a few day tickets and [maybe] a shiny new reel too....or 2 month's rent in Halls.

On cost alone it was a no-brainer for me and when you consider the recycled stuff and the latest way to catch carp in matches [which interests me not one whit] plus the fact that 2/3 of the mag is adverts then I doubt I'll ever buy another.

That said,I'd be sorry to see them go but as I dont buy them or read them I'm damned if I can tell you why.
 

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Although buying the weeklies/monthlies was the only way to satisfy appetite for fishing related stuff when i was young - 1970s - nowadays theres truly vast amounts of information on the internet. Why would you spend hard earned (or precious pocket money) cash on angling mags or papers rammed with adverts and same old stuff unless there was something you cant get online. Be interested to know what that is - probably the illusion that you have access to up to date info, catch or match reports, etc.
 

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Whenever these threads pop up there is always the predictable 'haven't bought it for years... regurgitated material... et al response' and this is understandable from anglers with decades of experience under their belt, but back in the day when I started fishing I didn't have an Uncle Bob who knew bl**dy everything to teach me, and mags were a valuable resource for learning....it etc.../QUOTE]

Hey ****y,
I had an Uncle who fished the All England so you could say he was a pretty good angler, but when he took me fishing he fish 100% of the time, and left me to it, never even showed me a single knot.
But he did take me to some fantastic waters.....where I had to sit and watch or go off and do my own thing.....usually birds nesting if the owner or keepers weren't around.....:D

I was even with him when he chatted to **** Walker, but I had to be seen and not heard and couldn't ask what I really wanted to know (about rod making).

Yes and I too enjoyed the copies of Angling Times when I found them in the barbers or at work, but the AT of the 60's 70s and early 80's was something to treasure not the rubbish that its been made into by the present editorial team.
That said I bet their profits are pretty substantial with all that advertising........
And isn't that what matters most.......money and profit :eek:mg:
 

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I wouldnt miss anything i do not buy them,
i some times get given the AT by a mate other wise,i
do not read any,
any thing i wont to know can be found on the forums
 
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