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There's also the possibility that after a long period of time and several thousand posts a member may just feel the need for a break, just like a long time on a water will bring about the desire to find pastures new.
A few knocks from other posters may just make his mind up to leave whereas sometime earlier the comments would have ignored.
One well known ex member was so harrassed by some here, on his blog, and I think on facebook that he has taken legal advice to put an end to it.

flightliner,

And how sad is that, a respected angler driven off a site by poster who's joy is in taking the Michael out of his efforts.

And some on here defend these people, it's ridiculous !!

Bob
 

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FM'S history is both glorious and inglorious! Several changes in ownership, platforms and inevitable changes of direction saw a few depart.

But the biggest exit was several years ago principally as a result of a loss of, let's say, trust and respect between individuals, both members and some of the then management team. An exodus ensued with a number of fine individuals, anglers and long term contributors departing to communicate elsewhere in private. That private forum continues to thrive to this day. A goodly number of those have 'returned' &/or continue to contribute to the FM forums.

There seems to be far less articles penned by the membership than in years gone by but I suggest the resolution to that lies in the hands of the members!

Meanwhile FM forums continue and are as vibrant as any similar platform. It is what it is and relies heavily on the membership to contribute and support the good creative work produced by the Editorial Team.
 

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flightliner,

And how sad is that, a respected angler driven off a site by poster who's joy is in taking the Michael out of his efforts.

And some on here defend these people, it's ridiculous !!

Bob

who are we talking about exactly ? its hard to fathom.
 

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What may put some off it nasty pms and then when the individual is challenged to post the same openly on the forum they flounce off holding up their skirt saying you're not worth the effort

And for those who left and are now on a private site , well if racist remarks are your thing then it's for you
 

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I guess the moral of all this is, don't get in a bearpit unless you can take a mauling!
 

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What may put some off it nasty pms and then when the individual is challenged to post the same openly on the forum they flounce off holding up their skirt saying you're not worth the effort

And for those who left and are now on a private site , well if racist remarks are your thing then it's for you


What's this "private site" thing'y all about :confused:.
 

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Simply a site created by a group of long term friends where they have control of the editorial content and membership is via invitation only.

Suits some but not all.
 

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People leave because of a reason

Unfortunately there has been one or two individuals on this site that has brought it right down.
Self proclaimed experts with a few follower who have nothing much to add, but back up these individuals. The forum mafia :rolleyes:
And yes I totally agree some very good anglers have left because of these very reasons "its a shame".
This site has gone from a very busy place, to a forum were you only visit twice a week because there very few new threads "how different it has become".
 

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Mr Hornegold

You have posted various opinions on this thread such as "respected anglers", "jealousy from those who've never caught a decent fish etc".

Point one, who says that certain anglers are respected whilst by definition others are not ?

Point two, what makes in your opinion certain anglers respected whilst others are not ?

Point three, you haven't a clue as to who catches what. Just because some do not have an ego so big they have to post it all over the web and mags does not mean they don't catch some very , as you put it "decent" fish on a regular basis.

Point four, exactly what is your definition of a "decent" fish ?

People come and go from forums all the time for many and varied reasons and this site is no different, but those who flounce off when challenged on their theories or questioned on their motives or integrity shouldn't really be trying to influence folks on a forum in the first place.
 
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Dear Mr. Perkins,

May your ramblings continue through time....and may your tackle always tickle. :)

And it is so blooming hot here in Eastern Europe (hitting the ton most days) that fishing is at time seriously risky! (Although local folk weather types are predicting ....well let's just say the brass monkeys are already leaving!)

However the birdwatching is fabulous....golden orioles en masse (think of a flying Pineapple Mivvi...for those of a certain age!!)...although shrike numbers down this year.

This conversation is very interesting...despite the odd attempt to raise a "hackle"....and let's make the outcome more contributors leaping into the world of on-line "authorship"....

Folk do choose to move on...in most cases not because of baggage or a deep seated bitterness..I would encourage all who want to ...pen those articles......why even the tales of the collective talents of the PaSC have been immortalized in print...with some disbelief...and the growing realisation that only one member ever consistently troubles the weighing sling. I am, of course too too modest to mention who that is!!! (Autographs are available for a moderate fee at all major Angling Fairs and Events......if you believe that!!!!!)
 
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I think its all a natural progression and we've seen it happen throughout the angling media since 1950. First we had one of two angling newspapers which covered everything. Then magazines specialising in different disciplines came along, which fragmented the earlier publications. Then came single-species mags which narrowed the focus even more...

The same thing has happened on the internet. Prior to the invention of the WWW and browsers, we had email fishing lists. The early ones had 1000's of rather active members from all over the globe - but there was a demand for a 'carp' list, and a 'sea' list then a 'game' list, and so the dismantling started. Now these lists still exist but no longer do you get get sea anglers from South Africa explaining their methods to coarse anglers from Yorkshire etc. Specialisation is the name of the game; carp anglers today don't want to read about shark fishing. (A loss to my mind but I understand it).

However these days, to start a 'new' mag/list/forum there is now a rather limited pool of talent to provide an interesting base - everyone already has a 'home' site. Attracting a base audience becomes a chicken and egg exercise. So capitalising on arguments online (real or imagined or even invented) is an excellent way to get membership for a new forum (or even a new club). This has happened many times in my experience of angling history; I'm sure you can all think of examples. "Stealing" a membership by promoting discontent is something to be watched out for, or capitalised on depending upon ones viewpoint. But it's nothing new and not unique to this site or even this medium.
 

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Mr Hornegold

You have posted various opinions on this thread such as "respected anglers", "jealousy from those who've never caught a decent fish etc".

Point one, who says that certain anglers are respected whilst by definition others are not ?

Point two, what makes in your opinion certain anglers respected whilst others are not ?

Point three, you haven't a clue as to who catches what. Just because some do not have an ego so big they have to post it all over the web and mags does not mean they don't catch some very , as you put it "decent" fish on a regular basis.

Point four, exactly what is your definition of a "decent" fish ?

People come and go from forums all the time for many and varied reasons and this site is no different, but those who flounce off when challenged on their theories or questioned on their motives or integrity shouldn't really be trying to influence folks on a forum in the first place.

Judas Priest,

I started to reply and then I thought "why bother ", there are many on this site who know exactly what I'm talking about.

As for decent fish, what is YOUR definition ?

And as far I know most of the very good anglers who do not post any more, used the own names, not a pseudonym.

Bob
 

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Judas Priest,

I started to reply and then I thought "why bother ", there are many on this site who know exactly what I'm talking about.

As for decent fish, what is YOUR definition ?

And as far I know most of the very good anglers who do not post any more, used the own names, not a pseudonym.

Bob

Bob who exactly are we talking about ?

If you want to talk about real names it would be nice if you used even forum names so we knew who you were actually talking about.
 

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Bob who exactly are we talking about ?

If you want to talk about real names it would be nice if you used even forum names so we knew who you were actually talking about.

Benny,

You don't know, I'm surprised, how long have you been on this site ?

Bob
 

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Benny,

You don't know, I'm surprised, how long have you been on this site ?

Bob


Do you mean Nicepix ? who I have just been talking to on a footy forum ?
I admit I have trouble keeping up with the arguments sometimes - like chatting to someone and then remembering he is one of my Nemesis.

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Benny,

You don't know, I'm surprised, how long have you been on this site ?

Bob

so Bob , you want us all to use our real names but you are not prepared to name the guy you are talking about ?
Is that right ?
 

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Judas Priest,

I started to reply and then I thought "why bother ", there are many on this site who know exactly what I'm talking about.

As for decent fish, what is YOUR definition ?

And as far I know most of the very good anglers who do not post any more, used the own names, not a pseudonym.

Bob

Bob , how do you know there are so many on the site who know what you're talking about , have you sent them a pm , I'll expect mine soon then
 
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