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    Default Snails.

    I was browsing through this: Derbyshire Angling Federation Win Angling Trust Division 2 National Championship - The Angling Trust

    And came across this report; "Mark’s tactics were fishing loose feed of 7 pints of hemp through the feeder feeder to catch 10 barbel to 5lb and one chub. Mark caught a couple of barbel on caster and the rest on snails!"

    Does anyone know which species of snail were used or which species has worked for you (if any). I've fished with common garden snails for carp and chub, and found them a pretty poor bait.

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    I can't say that I've ever used a snail as bait in my life. However, this appeared on the market not that long ago.

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    I've tried the product which Sam linked to above on a few occasions on both river and stillwater, I was convinced they would be THE thing for tench and crucians in particular.

    Initially I didn't have the confidence to try a snail as hookbait or the need when I was already catching on other hookbaits whilst feeding them but when I did try them (on a few sessions) it yielded nothing in the way of any interest.

    Quite surprising really as I thought such a natural bait might bag me the odd bonus, wary fish.

    On a similar slant I recall Des Taylor talking about how good lobworms worked in relation to them being considered a "natural" bait and then putting everything back into perspective by asking how many of them do you think actually inch their way along the bottom of a gravel pit forty yards out?

    Maybe a thing for really hard fished waters and maybe a need to present the bait in a situation where the fish are likely to encounter them naturally eg. the very close margins but I drew a blank on them every time.

    Which in turn raises the question of fish possessing a natural instinct for evaluating and knowing what is good for them especially if they don't associate it with a slap on the snout or the much simpler theory of their curiosity towards unfamiliar food items which might just smell/taste (?) good?

    Personally and in relation to positive reports I've heard from others I think they are slugs MKII... The fish (and the angler) will love 'em or hate 'em.

    Edited to add: Given that this guy fed seven pints of hemp through the feeder over the duration of a match my gut instinct is that the very regular flow of bait going in via repeated casting, in conjunction with being on a few fish to begin with along with those that joined the party, was more the reason for his success than the actual hookbait itself.
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    Default Re: Snails.

    If he's looking in, Christian, (Chav Professor) may be the guy to contribute here, I'll try to find the thread but I'm confident he has been using snails for Chub over a considerable length of time and posted on here about their effectiveness.
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    I have used garden snails for chub (free lined) with varied success, a bit like minnows for barbel early season seems best. Unlike some I always leave the shell in tact, after all that is how they'll be if they enter the water naturally. The best results by far have been from the small black snails that inhabit silkweed, the free growing weed from the river (I've never seen any in the silkweed that clings to weir structures, or similar - not sure why).
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    Default Re: Snails.

    Kiddology - and Winkles? Just a guess, but they are snails, and available in bulk...

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    Default Re: Snails.

    Quote Originally Posted by binka View Post

    Which in turn raises the question of fish possessing a natural instinct for evaluating and knowing what is good for them especially if they don't associate it with a slap on the snout or the much simpler theory of their curiosity towards unfamiliar food items which might just smell/taste (?) good?

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    Just a bit in relation to that Binka-something I posted on another thread recently- I fed some maggots to a big pond full of Goldfish the other week and they did not want to know. A few were sucked in and spat out again including a few casters and that was it, they just sunk to the bottom. They had never seen them before and did not recognize them as food and even distrusted the taste. Maggots of all things ! The day before I caught 50+ fish on them ! Weird.

    Just a question are these snails fished without the shell? I mean, slugs, cockles, mussels all seem to work.
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    I used to fish a lake for carp, if you were scrape a bucket in the edge along the bottom you would gather lots of small snails. I looked them up and they were (I think) called 'Jenkins Spire Snails' and apparently they reproduce by the thousand fold. Anyway, I did try them as bait, resulting in not a bite! Though surely the carp must have been eating them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by markg View Post
    Just a bit in relation to that Binka-something I posted on another thread recently- I fed some maggots to a big pond full of Goldfish the other week and they did not want to know. A few were sucked in and spat out again including a few casters and that was it, they just sunk to the bottom. They had never seen them before and did not recognize them as food and even distrusted the taste. Maggots of all things ! The day before I caught 50+ fish on them ! Weird.

    Just a question are these snails fished without the shell? I mean, slugs, cockles, mussels all seem to work.
    I recall your original thread comment about the goldfish and maggots. I would bet if you tried it again with fresh bait there would be a positive response. The ammonia that taints maggots is strong enough to put off even tiny perch long before we can smell it. Drop some in the margins and observe reactions there. Frequently fish will mouth the bait on the drop but blow it out again. A succession of spat out maggots will quickly lead to falling baits being ignored. Drip feed some fresh ones again and they will switch on.
    How many times we struggle to get bites when plenty of fish are in front of us, and how fresh the bait (especially maggot) is are strongly correlated.
    They will eat sour maggots but not for long and not with enthusiasm. Even a quick wash can bring dramatic changes.
    The french, and many others love to eat snails. Fish love snails. Cockles etc. too of course. I was once given some snail 'education' by an ageing French peasant. She was out collecting them one damp night as I cycled back to where I was staying. She had 5 upturned large flower pots outside her backdoor. Each one contained snails at a different stage of cleansing. No feed in the first to eliminate the bitter weeds it would have consumed. Carefully selected fresh herbs in the next 3, and finally Vermicelli under the last pot, the ones for dinner.
    I have had very little success with snails myself but I've not yet tried preparing them in the way I might look to care for other baits.
    Maybe Madame Ida's recipe would be the perfect thing.
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    Never tried them but could be worth a go . After all chub will eat a slug with gusto. Don't think the shell would prevent them from being eaten,after all chub will eat crayfish no bother.

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