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  1. #1
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    Default Changing attitudes to angling and the convenience of doing nothing...

    How things have changed from when I was a kid first starting out!
    I don't know about you, but I still get a lot of enjoyment out of preparation, whether its sorting through my gear, tying up rigs or preparing some bait etc. These days it seems like all the younger ones want to buy convenience and success instead of working for it.

    Ready tied rigs, boilies instead of base mixes, tins of hemp, car park peg in lieu of water craft, Cafe instead of flask and sandwich, an easy puddle instead of a river... vapes instead of a roll up!

    What happened?

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    Default Re: Changing attitudes to angling and the convenience of doing nothing...

    Human nature.

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    Default Re: Changing attitudes to angling and the convenience of doing nothing...

    Yep yer definitely not wrong there Chris,

    I'm only middle aged but am very much still old school in much of what I do, I prefer this as to me there's not half the complications

    I'm as you've probably no doubt already gathered that I'm an out and out river fanatic that simply enjoys me trotting,

    Every thing I know has virtually been self taught over the last 36 years or so and can assure anyone that there's times where I've really screwed up when learning the art of new tackle items and techniques etc, We've all been there and done it at times ......lols

    The trouble with today's fishing scene is that there are unfortunately loads of young kids that take up the sport but before they've ever learnt how to rig up a float rod and learn the finesse of light line fishing for small species of fish like roach and dace etc they all seem to think it's the norm of instant wannabe big massive carp anglers that will have all of the gear but clearly no idea

    To me I just look and think that this is so very very sad indeed, a lot have completed missed out on what it's like to stand at the waters edge on a loverly flowing river and watching that float work its way down the river in search of fish

    I just really wish that in today's society of fishing that some of us perhaps more experienced and elder anglers really show some of the juniors and aswell as adult novice anglers the very much wide variety of coarse fishing that there actually is as opposed to being in a bivvey eaither asleep during the day or watching the tv.

    The very biggest aspect of all as regards to all coarse angling is simply learning the art of watercraft and location, learn this and you'll be 3/4's of the way there
    Last edited by thames mudlarker; 07-03-2017 at 08:01.

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    Default Re: Changing attitudes to angling and the convenience of doing nothing...

    I cannot really comment as i am new to fishing! The days on the local cut as an 11 year old with a cane rod, Intrepid reel, 2lb line, a few hooks float and maggots all stored in a whicker basket did not help me adjust when i took up the hobby again at 61.

    I have enjoyed the learning curve and trying different things and am frustrated that I have not used my pin for a variety of reasons. I have plans to do so however when the weather improves and the close season ends. I hate to blank but just sat on the bank trying different tactics, rigs and bait I find thereapeutic and relaxing; some days it works and some days it doesn't but that is fishing and life

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    Default Re: Changing attitudes to angling and the convenience of doing nothing...

    Quote Originally Posted by laguna View Post
    What happened?
    Commercialism / Progress ??

    From my recollections it started in the early 80’s. I was heavy into carp fishing as it exploded commercially. Bivy instead of brolly, tv instead of chatting, pub instead of fry ups, whacky instead roll ups. Buy the gear from up an ‘coming carp retailers’, new carpers wanted instant success, with the trend seeming to infiltrate all aspects of angling. Years ago I realized a lot of it was phony and I couldn’t buy enjoyment. I turned to doing my own thing, I don’t need the ‘latest’, I just need better water craft and peace & quiet. Probably a grumpy old age thing!
    Last edited by cassey; 07-03-2017 at 09:14.

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    Default Re: Changing attitudes to angling and the convenience of doing nothing...

    Quote Originally Posted by laguna View Post
    How things have changed from when I was a kid first starting out!
    I don't know about you, but I still get a lot of enjoyment out of preparation, whether its sorting through my gear, tying up rigs or preparing some bait etc. These days it seems like all the younger ones want to buy convenience and success instead of working for it.

    Ready tied rigs, boilies instead of base mixes, tins of hemp, car park peg in lieu of water craft, Cafe instead of flask and sandwich, an easy puddle instead of a river... vapes instead of a roll up!

    What happened?
    Innit the same for everything Laguana, ready made meals, food all ready washed and peeled for you, driver-less cars, exercise machines in your home (what happened to a good walk), rubber dolls(what happened to going out and pulling a live one for yourself), computers that can do every spelling/calculation for you, I think the art of thinking for ourselves is disappearing and we are fast becoming walking lobotomies. I am sure my own forehead has shrunk over the years. (no need to comment on that, thank you very much)
    Last edited by markg; 07-03-2017 at 09:11.

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    Default Re: Changing attitudes to angling and the convenience of doing nothing...

    Whilst the OP makes many factually correct points, we have to accept that things change. It does not necessarily mean it is worse or indeed better it is simply different.

    Progress is often judged differently based on what point in the timeline you favour, and is usually biased towards your personal values.

    The thought of preparing hemp, or making boilies makes me shudder. Why would I want to do that?

    Whereas the thought of fishing a mud puddle or buying ready tied rigs would make me shudder also.

    Horses for courses. Live and let live!

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    Default Re: Changing attitudes to angling and the convenience of doing nothing...

    Quote Originally Posted by laguna View Post
    .... These days it seems like all the younger ones want to buy convenience and success instead of working for it. .....
    Don't knock it, Chris! A bright young thing could make a living out of pre-prepared baits, flavourings, and bits and bobs of useful tackle items!

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    Default Re: Changing attitudes to angling and the convenience of doing nothing...

    It's all part of the "now" life style

    What to watch a film , no need to go to cinema just upload to your mobile
    No need to watch a series one a week, watch a box set
    No need to wait to meet friends to say what a great holiday you had , just Facebook them
    PaSC British by birth, English by the grace of God
    I got the devil in my blood,Telling' me what to do
    (And I'm all ears), Britain's premier bread angler

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    Default Re: Changing attitudes to angling and the convenience of doing nothing...

    I think even the match fishing has gone silly. There was a match in a puddle near here in January that was won with 186Ibs of F1 carp or something like that. I remember club matches (which probably had more contestants), or open matches (where numbers could be much higher) where a winning weight at this time of the year rarely got above 5-10Ibs but to struggle your way to that small bag of roach, dace and minor species was no less skilful or rewarding. Why this macho thing that you need to bag over 100Ibs of fish all the time? Same with carp fishing - its only size that matters.

    What happened to relishing the beauty of a 12oz rudd or a 3Ib tench?. I fish for living jewels not for fat old monsters.
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