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    My local tackle shop still use chrysoidine to colour their maggots a bronze colour. The lad serving me one day actually got out the tin and put it on some maggots to show me how they coloured them.
    The dye looked a bit like metal filings and the shop assistant said it wasn't banned at all. Unknown to me there where some bronze maggots mixed in my white and reds one time and it dyed my hands, rod cork and white reel yelow! As you can imagine I wasn't pleased about it. I've never found using br
    onze colored maggots caught any more fish and therefore I never use them any longer anyhow. For as long as I can remember i've just used white and red maggots.
    If you think about it...if the dye is transferring onto your hands then it must have been put onto the maggots rather than being fed to them as it the case with reds. I only ever get a little bit of red of reds when they burst as I hook them and their juices go on my hand but it qashes off easy.
    Last edited by tigger; 27-11-2017 at 09:34.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonbean1 View Post
    Chris...is that pure krill meal you've used on maggots to colour them?

    and is that riddling or wriggling?
    Wriggling Jason, live maggots just sprinkled with a spoonful of pure Krill (KPH) powder to 1 pint. It absorbs into their skin and they also eat it.
    The ones shown in that picture are drained left-overs from previous sessions which were given the VIP treatment for storing. A dose of either SAC juice (long term storage) or L-amino REACT (up to about 3 months storage).

    *I don't like frozen maggots

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenie62 View Post
    I reckon it's the 'whiteness' of natural undyed maggots that puts fish off - it seems to 'spook' them on occassions.
    You could be right about that. Perhaps any dye substance absorbed in their skin reduces their ability to secrete ammonia?
    I once read some things about colour preferences and seem to recall that titanium white, added as a fine powder, made them light up like a Christmas tree at depths over 30ft. Closer to the surface in shallow water, titanium white coated bait they were taken equally to any other coloured maggot even reds.
    I think titanium white is the stuff they use for line markings on football pitches and the like, so shouldn't be too hard to get hold of... but of course said experimental maggots should be bought maize/sawdust free to begin with...!

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    I've always got the distinct impression that anything resembling a preference for certain maggot colours is very heavily venue dependent.
    I've always preferred bronze maggots on my local river. Due to the staining, and any lingering concerns about the possible use of Chrysoidine, I've deliberately avoided using bronze maggots for a large chunk of this year. However, I gave them a bash recently and caught that bit better than on either the reds or whites I have been using. Naturally, it's nigh on impossible to prove these things, but I definitely prefer to use bronze maggots on the local river. If I bother going further afield, I'm be just as happy using reds or whites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenie62 View Post
    I reckon it's the 'whiteness' of natural undyed maggots that puts fish off - it seems to 'spook' them on occassions. On a small river I found a small shoal trout and hand fed them with some 'mixed' maggots and watched the shoal's reaction.
    Red and orange maggots were their favourites then yellow, green ones were totally ignored, but white ones initially spooked them as they descended the water column - when they hit the bottom the fish's interest would return and they'd move over them to investigate but keep their eyes open to readily intercept any more attractive descending coloured samples.

    When there was a 'carpet' of whites in the gravel, the trout would move over them to 'graze' - using the waft of their fins to lift them off their resting places - before spinning back and snatching them as they started to re-descend.

    This aversion to taking stationary baits off the bottom and trying to make them float-up might explain why I used to catch so many parr foul-hooked in the pectoral and caudal fins!

    I've repeated this experiment on finding shoals of chublets - same results and behaviour but observations usually terminated by the moving-in of a larger specimen scattering the shoal!

    Since then, if I'm planning on a trotting session, I'll usually take bronzies if I can get them, or a half and half mix of reds and plain, which turn off-white by dye transfer in the bait-tub.

    Ignored the yellows? The best maggots in the local shop were yellows, when I fished the Shroppie at the end of the road as a teenager, and I felt badly-equipped without some. The colour went out of fashion; no idea why.

    Years later, I liked to flavour, colour and degrease maggots with turmeric (I believe it eased any inflammation they were suffering with, too). But sometimes I couldn't wash it off my fingers. I worried people would notice it at work on a Monday. I didn't think it would help to say "Don't worry - it's only off the maggots".

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    If Chrysodine is carcinogenic, makes you wonder what effect it had on fish, or anything else that ingested them through the 60's to 80's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassey View Post
    If Chrysodine is carcinogenic, makes you wonder what effect it had on fish, or anything else that ingested them through the 60's to 80's.
    I always think the same thing Cassey, even with a lot of the bait people use today!


    That's the reason why I never feed any but white maggots to the birds that hang round for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nottskev View Post
    Ignored the yellows? .....
    No Kev - they were next on the preference list, then comma, greens were ignored. It's a problem with commas being mixed as punctuation marks and also list separators!

    On a local pond t'other year, I found that a red maggie would guarantee tiny perch, a yellow maggie - rudd, and a white maggie - skimmers, time and time again - all in the same spot under the rod-tip.
    All tiny 2-3" fish - so I swapped to worm and caught 6-8" Crucians!
    If only it was so easy every time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassey View Post
    If Chrysodine is carcinogenic
    I don't believe that there's any doubt that Chrysoidine is carcinogenic. The doubt comes in as to whether it's actually being used as a colouring for all bronze maggots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sam vimes View Post
    I don't believe that there's any doubt that Chrysoidine is carcinogenic. The doubt comes in as to whether it's actually being used as a colouring for all bronze maggots.
    When I said they do use it in my local shop I didn't mean everyone else uses it...I really have no idea how many shops still use it.
    As I said earler though, if the yellow is coming off the maggots onto your fingers i'd be very supicious as it can't have been injested by the maggots.

    This link may be of interest to some people...

    Maggots – Total Fishing
    Last edited by tigger; 27-11-2017 at 11:55.

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