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  1. #1
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    Default It seems apparent .

    During recent reccies to the Lincolnshire Fens one thing seems to be starkly evident, and that I the absence of other anglers. Areas that were once highly populated by anglers appear to see no angling traffic.

    This was a topic of conversation between my angling mate and I on route home after the last couple of outings. Opinions were divided from nowadays anglers no longer wish to fish through the harsh winter periods, to the deterioration of fish stocks. Including the ever present illegal poaching and killing of fish, and poorer water quality etc, speculation is endless.

    Does anyone else have a view on this thorny topic?

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    Default Re: It seems apparent .

    I cannot comment on your neck of the woods Derek but we inhabit an extremely complex and demanding world with instant communications and demands on our time from everywhere which interfere with Angling! I am sure adverse weather plays a part and it is snowing here as I type! I know I would be alone on many of my favourite local waters and to be honest that's how I like it!

    If I could be guaranteed a catch I might go! As it is unless the snow becomes heavier a trip to see my parents is on the cards! Good to see you posting again!

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    Default Re: It seems apparent .

    Possibly down to lots of anglers being a different animal to what they used to be, certainly there are a lot less predator anglers on my local waters but during the warmer weather plenty that fish for carp with most disappearing when the weather turns cold.

    Some of the drains I fished when I lived in Lincolnshire were a shadow of what they were when i fished them before moving to Lincolnshire, fish theft was definitely one reason but with angling being very cyclical with species numbers rising and falling it could have been that I fished them at a period when the cycle was at a low point. One things sure that there are lots of good fish swimming about in out of the way drains that will never see an angler now, not many are prepared to put in the long walks that used to be the norm leapfrogging rods back to where they started, angling has changed a lot but as you are finding the rewards are still there if you are prepared to fish these waters to discover if any have returned to somewhere near what they were, I hope it continues for you.

    Lots of anglers that did used to fish the fens in years gone by are now older and unable or unwilling to fish these places during the winter, I include myself in that, some of the fishing they did may even have contributed to their being unable to fish them now, goodness knows how I put up with riding my motorbike to the fens laden with tackle in mid winter I must have been mad
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    Default Re: It seems apparent .

    My view is that winter fishing is dying out due I think to the age of anglers. I use to fish what ever the weather but now I don’t. All my fishing mates are now in their 60’s or 70’s and this seems an average age were we fish. The days of us dragging ourselves out to places like the Fens are now gone. A bit of cold weather never use to put us off.
    The fact is that all year round fishing now means that many can now do 9 months fishing and put their rods away till the Spring. Add to this the number of easy waters now available and who but the most hardy would want to fish these out of the way places where you may or may not get a fish. There are no carparks, ,no café, no tackle shop and horror of horrors for some these days you have to walk to your swim.
    Me, I would still like to visit these places but I can't see it happening.
    Last edited by steve2; 09-12-2017 at 09:48.

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    Default Re: It seems apparent .

    I don’t think it is to do with the supposed lack of fish.

    Since I moved to the Fens I have benn amazed at the amount of unfished water.....long stretches of the Great Ouse and many of the drains are simply unfished and left to grow over.

    Yet the rivers and drains are full of fish.....it is fairly easy to catch large bags of Roach and other fish on my local waters.

    Anglers simply can’t be bothered to walk long distances, especially with huge amounts of tackle which seems to be compulsory nowadays. They also want to park close to their swim and not have to clear a peg.
    The areas near convenient car parking are comparatively heavily fished and kept clear.

    There is also a huge amount of water to go at.....it seems most would rather fish a commercial which is far more comfortable and convenient.

    There are even long stretches of water, which used to be heavily match fished, which are no longer controlled by clubs as there is no demand.....they are now free fishing but ignored.

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    Default Re: It seems apparent .

    I couldn't say what's happening in Lincolnshire, but to give a specific example close to home, I regularly drive past a commercial which has dozens of anglers lining its several pools. Ten minutes later, I am on the Trent or Derwent, often with long stretches of river to myself. Last weekend, even in the cold weather, the same commercial was busy and 5 minutes further down the road I arrived at a deserted lake. I'd guess the popularity of commercials is a factor.

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    Default Re: It seems apparent .

    Having recently, on a number of occasions driven along the bank of the River Witham at dusk and witnessed at first hand numbers of fish ''topping'' on certain sections. I find it difficult to subscribe to the lack of fish belief, so I tend to dismiss that as an option.

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    Default Re: It seems apparent .

    It is not just during the winter period that waters are unfished....in fact some of the drains are fished more heavily in the winter than the summer.

    There is also a conspicuous lack of youngsters fishing the rivers...as has
    Been said many anglers are getting older and are unable or unwilling to tackle long walks and steep and slippery banks.

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    Default Re: It seems apparent .

    I'm sat here on a Saturday morning, having got up late and had a lazy breakfast, ten years ago I'd have been up at first light next to the river. I don't know if It's getting older or wether I've realised, as I've got older, wether It's worth going out.
    The weather outside is bright sunshine and heavy frost I never had much luck in these conditions,so I'm going to have another cup of coffee then take the dogs out.

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    Default Re: It seems apparent .

    One of the things that puts me off in winter, is the fact I have to walk quiet a way to some swims carrying tackle in winter clothing, if I get hot and then sit in the cold for hours, I can nearly guarantee a chest infection, and being laid up for weeks, it’s just not worth it.

    I like my pleasure fishing, but there’s no pleasure in that.

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